I waited for the whole day and night for the response of UnitedWithChrist in my latest reply to his post
#267.
Anyway, I will continue to further discuss what really happened at the Council of
Constantinople.
The
Council of Constantinople declared finally the
Trinitarian doctrine of the co-equality and co-exist of the
Holy Spirit with the Father and the Son. Among the council’s canons was one giving the bishop of Constantinople
precedence of honor over all other bishops except the bishop of
Rome, because Constantinople is the New Rome. Now you can see, they came now to practice the Roman church popery or papal system, and more later doctrines such as the Immaculate Conception, purgatory and other doctrines.
Concerning the modified Nicene Creed of Constantinople, the Eastern churches have always rejected it because they consider it a theological error and an unauthorized addition to a venerable document. The Nicene Creed was originally written in Greek while the modified Nicene Creed of Constantinople written in Latin. Latin is the official language of the Roman Empire where the Roman Catholic church originates.
So the original Nicene Creed in Greek is reliable than the modified Nicene Creed in Latin. Let me repost again the original Nicene Creed text.
"We believe in one God, the Father Almighty, Maker of all things visible and invisible.
And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, begotten of the Father the only-begotten; that is from the substance of the Father, God of God, Light of Light, very God of very God, begotten, not made, being of one substance (ὁμοούσιον) with the Father; by whom all things were made both in heaven and on earth; who for us men, and for our salvation, came down and was incarnate and was made man; he suffered, and the third day he rose again, ascended into heaven; from thence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead.
And in one Holy Spirit.
But those who say: 'There was a time when he was not;' and 'He was not before he was made;' and 'He was made out of nothing,' who affirm the Son of God is another person or another substance' or 'essence,' or 'The Son of God is created,' or 'changeable,' or 'alterable'—they are condemned by the holy catholic and apostolic church"
By the way, for other folks, I will note to you that just_truth has been sending me private messages urging responses to his questions.
As I have already stated, I am more concerned about Black Lives Matters and their activities, which I believe will ultimately lead to an attempt to overthrow our government.
Additionally, regarding the Council of Constantinople, he is relying on statements, probably made by a Oneness Pentecostal or similar heretic, with regards to the Council. I would challenge him to prove, from unbiased sources, his statements.
As I have said, I belonged to a cult. After I left the cult, I realized that cults blatantly misrepresent and lie about historical facts in order to support their propaganda. Oneness Pentecostalism and the sects associated with it are plainly cults.
His cultic behavior is observed in the fact that he keeps sending me messages when he knows that I don't want to discuss this issue further, and that I am occupied with other things. In fact, he has sent private messages to me prompting me for responses to his endless questions.
There is a point where swine are recognized as swine, and casting pearls before them is unproductive.
It is plain to see that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit and their actions are represented in an interpersonal manner, and this cannot be disregarded. That is the entire gist of this conversation.
We also know that there is one God, but since there the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are each identified as God, and we see interpersonal activity between them, this gives us the basis for the Triune God, or the Trinity doctrine.
Additionally, historical facts are often either distorted or entirely falsified by these groups in order to support their faulty theology. For instance, I do not think he will be able to find a genuine historian who claims that the Pope was appointed the head over the universal church at Constantinople. The evolution of the Papacy was a gradual process, which occurred much later.
But, if you listen to the fairy tales of cultists, you will hear a different story. That is largely because they want to declare themselves to be a restoration of the original gospel, who teaches the "truth" which was suppressed for centuries. This is a pretty uniform claim amongst many cultists, including the group I came from. Distorting church history, which was filled with issues because all men are sinners, is part of their propaganda. Another is a magical attempt to turn an evangelical Christian into a slightly revised Roman Catholic.
