Seeking wisdom about dating someone who struggles with porn

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Daylilly

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Dear sisters and brothers,
I am new here and will likely not be here long. But I am in desperate need of some wisdom and encouragement from unbiased people who seek the Lord first and foremost. I apologize this is so long and sincerely appreciate anyone who takes the time to read all the way through and respond.
I am 18 and have been a Christian most of my life. I was blessed to be raised in a strong Christian home with great parents. I am the oldest of ten, homeschooled, country bumpkin kids. I have a quiet, shy, strong, capable personality and tend to always pick myself back up and trust the Lord to work all things out for His glory no matter how bad it gets. Sometimes I struggle with depression or anxiety for a few days but usually I am cheerful and optimistic. People seem to connect with me and share a lot of their burdens and sorrows. Somehow I’ve been able to encourage and help people in this way. It can be hard to bare, but Jesus is really the one who carries everything. I believe it is a gift I’ve been given and pray continuously that the Lord will be glorified by it.
So Now for the real reason for this post...
I have been In a relationship/courting This 21 year old young man since the beginning of this January. But we’ve grown up around each other and been friends for awhile. We go to the same church and have similar social circles. I have not been in any Romantic relationship prior to him, and am a virgin. He was also raised in a Christian home with great parents. (His mom has been my mentor for a couple years). He is saved and has a heart for the Lord. He is kinda a loner, very private, has problems with self-criticism and blame and doubt, he’s been deeply hurt by Some of his Broken family (Brother, grandparents, etc.), and struggles with hopelessness sometimes. But he has one of the strongest personalities I’ve ever seen. His character is honorable. He is loving, servant-minded, honest, Has insane amounts of creativity, hard working, possesses a hilarious sense of humor, Encouraging, kind, sweet, playful, wise with his resources, and ambitious with his endeavors.
I’ve been deeply Blessed by our relationship and we have grown very close. We are emotionally and spiritually connected. We have taken precautions and set boundaries from the beginning because we both desire purity in our walk. We have kissed some In the past, but We decided that even that was too much Of a temptation and we did not want to go there. He has dealt honorable towards me from the beginning and gone through my dad’s authority as well. He has become very precious to me and I to him. We have had a few rough spot but they’ve brought us closer together. We have not shied away from discussions a possible Future with one another and he has told me three different times that he wants to marry me.
This Is the hard part. He told me this in the beginning: he has been in one short relationship before when he was 16/17. Neither him nor the girl had very much spiritual or parental input at the time. (His parents were wrapped up in his brother’s rebellious life at the time) They had sex twice, but afterwards he decided he could not be in a relationship with her anymore and they broke up. Ever since that time he was terrified to be in a relationship because he didn’t want to “fail again”.
(Until I came along) It absolutely killed me when he told me that. I had hoped, as every girl hopes, to be his first time. But now I felt robbed of that God ordained treasure. We got through it and there’s been healing.
Then a couple months later He told me that he struggles with porn.
At one point in our relationship he had looked at it and it was killing his conscience so bad, that he told me everything. He said it was really bad when he was 12-16/17. Then he got right with the lord and got re-baptized. Last summer he had gotten into it again. After that, hating himself He’d stopped. Yet another hard blow. But I looked at his character and the fact he was honest with me about all of it and we got through that too. This morning I started to text him good morning and found a message from him saying:
“”Hey I need to tell you something. this afternoon and evening I was struggling with that problem I have and I failed again and I'm vary sorry and I hate myself for it and I feel like you need to know this sooner then later I would ask for your forgiveness but I understand if you are not ready.””
It was such a hard blow to take and I’ve been on the edge of breaking down all day. He also said:
“”You don’t deserve this. You deserve someone better. You have every right to be mad””
One of the things I told him:
“”Also, you need to know how it makes me feel knowing your sexuality is being fed by these sorts of things. One, terribly heartbroken, because it feels like I’m not worth waiting for enough for you to abstain from these things.
Two, extremely self conscious, especially of dressing nice or femininely because I’m afraid you might see me poorly or through a dirty mind because of what you look at.
Three, jealous, because not only does it Change how you see me, but also how you see other girls’ bodies especially ones that don’t dress modestly. And four, inferior and heartbroken, because if, and hopefully when, we marry and give ourselves to one another my body will not be like those porn images. It won’t be smooth and spray tanned and waxed and airbrushed and edited everywhere. It won’t be full and busty and “perfect”. It’s just going to be me, as I am. Imperfect and flawed and natural and just exactly the way God made me.
It’s really hard. Your mind and sexuality is use to being aroused and temporarily fulfilled by these false images, even if it’s been a long time since you looked at anything, it puts fear and self criticism and questioning in my heart towards you. I don’t want that.””
All along we’ve been there for each other. We’ve encouraged and built each other up. He has been a comfort and a steady friend. We are very much growing in Steadfast love and care And have a heart to serve each other. I I so deeply desire is to see him become the man he was created to be. Strong and bold. Fearless and valiant in the spiritual battles we face. I told him I could not go into marriage until I knew he had faced his battle and won. I know how hard the addiction can be. But he has to walk in complete purity. Am I blinded by infatuation? Am I caught up in some sort of fantasy romance in my head? Am I young and stupid? Is he not worth it anymore? I see him fighting and hating that sin in his life and not wanting that for himself anymore. How do I help him? I can’t fight his battles, so how do I encourage him? How do I show forgiveness, not tolerance? How do I know when it’s time to leave the relationship? How to I be the girlfriend that I’m supposed to be? Most of all, how do I interact with his weakness in a strong, loving, and ultimately God honoring way?
 

CharliRenee

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How honest and brave to share. I admire your wisdom at such a young age. I am sure he is a great young man and I admire his willingness to be honest. This is my thoughts.

I think you definitely should not marry him until he gets help, until he has conquered this. I do not say that self righteously. I do not condemn his sin more than other sin. I understand it can be a mighty force to beat. I do believe, with God, he can stop. I will pray for him. I will also pray for you. Please stay strong and resolved to this because as you realize this habit is toxic and can seep into the rest of his life. It isn't anything he is doing because of you, just that it has become a sort of addiction for him.
 

Daylilly

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How honest and brave to share. I admire your wisdom at such a young age. I am sure he is a great young man and I admire his willingness to be honest. This is my thoughts.

I think you definitely should not marry him until he gets help, until he has conquered this. I do not say that self righteously. I do not condemn his sin more than other sin. I understand it can be a mighty force to beat. I do believe, with God, he can stop. I will pray for him. I will also pray for you. Please stay strong and resolved to this because as you realize this habit is toxic and can seep into the rest of his life. It isn't anything he is doing because of you, just that it has become a sort of addiction for him.
Thankyou for your encouragement and we need prayer!
 
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The porn doesn't even matter. The weightier matter is that you say that he's not a virgin. So this means real clearly that he is not for you. The woman he was with first is his real wife in the eyes of God and he should never part from her. Consider yourself blessed that you have a chance to escape before you were defiled. Find someone that is legitimate, you definitely are a rarity among women in this era, don't throw yourself away to Babylon.
 

Daylilly

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The porn doesn't even matter. The weightier matter is that you say that he's not a virgin. So this means real clearly that he is not for you. The woman he was with first is his real wife in the eyes of God and he should never part from her. Consider yourself blessed that you have a chance to escape before you were defiled. Find someone that is legitimate, you definitely are a rarity among women in this era, don't throw yourself away to Babylon.
Thankyou for your thoughts. I do however believe in The redeeming grace Of Jesus Christ. And if we follow your line of logic, even I, in my virgin state, am not worthy of him.
 
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My advice is to tell him to check out purelifeministries.org It is a very successful ministry for this worldwide crisis no one wants to talk about. He will find the solution that he needs to stay holy in this area for the rest of his life. Victory is available in Jesus Christ but many need a little guidance in how to appropriate the victory that Jesus offers.
 
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Thankyou for your thoughts. I do however believe in The redeeming grace Of Jesus Christ. And if we follow your line of logic, even I, in my virgin state, am not worthy of him.
Sure Lord Jesus can redeem them, but that means they have to acknowledge their evil and repent, literally, to turn back, from it. With the fornicators most of them will not ever repent, they'll feign it and keep living with their illegitimate lovers. Save yourself the heartbreak and get rid of the other woman's husband whom you ought not be with, you're worth more than that in the eyes of Jesus.
 
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My advice is to tell him to check out purelifeministries.org It is a very successful ministry for this worldwide crisis no one wants to talk about. He will find the solution that he needs to stay holy in this area for the rest of his life. Victory is available in Jesus Christ but many need a little guidance in how to appropriate the victory that Jesus offers.
I know about the minsitry and am connected through another ministry that focuses on drug addiction Adult and Teen Challenge. Purelife ministries is similar but focuses on these sexual addiction problems. They have a very high success rate and there are pastors in ministry today whos lives were changed through the help of purelife ministries. Teen Challenge has an 85% success rate for drug addicts and both these ministries focus on the Blood of Jesus and the Power of the Sanctifying work of the Holy Spirit.
 
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Sure Lord Jesus can redeem them, but that means they have to acknowledge their evil and repent, literally, to turn back, from it. With the fornicators most of them will not ever repent, they'll feign it and keep living with their illegitimate lovers. Save yourself the heartbreak and get rid of the other woman's husband whom you ought not be with, you're worth more than that in the eyes of Jesus.
Having sex with someone does not make you married. No one should marry someone because they feel guilty about having sinned in fornication. They should repent and stay celibate. They are not under obligation to marry that person that they sinned with. God does not work that way and to put that on people will ruin many lives and only make it worse and lead to many more sins. I will always counsel people who have fallen into that sin, to break up and stay away from each other except around other people, never alone again. If after a time of focusing on Jesus and living a holy celibate life they believe they are to marry then marry but they are not to be alone together again until the wedding.
 
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Having sex with someone does not make you married. No one should marry someone because they feel guilty about having sinned in fornication. They should repent and stay celibate. They are not under obligation to marry that person that they sinned with. God does not work that way and to put that on people will ruin many lives and only make it worse and lead to many more sins. I will always counsel people who have fallen into that sin, to break up and stay away from each other except around other people, never alone again. If after a time of focusing on Jesus and living a holy celibate life they believe they are to marry then marry but they are not to be alone together again until the wedding.

Mark 10:7-9
7 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife;

8 And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh.

9 What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.


1 Corinthians 6:15-17
15 Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid.

16 What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.

17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.
 

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Am I young and stupid? Is he not worth it anymore? I see him fighting and hating that sin in his life and not wanting that for himself anymore. How do I help him? I can’t fight his battles, so how do I encourage him? How do I show forgiveness, not tolerance? How do I know when it’s time to leave the relationship? How to I be the girlfriend that I’m supposed to be? Most of all, how do I interact with his weakness in a strong, loving, and ultimately God honoring way?
You might be young but you certainly are not stupid and I don't believe that the man you are in a relationship with is evil either. He seems to just be a typical young man.

I understand your disappointment in that he is no longer a virgin but it is apparent that he respects your virginity and that is even more important. He also seems honest and that is a good character trait to build a relationship on.

Regarding his weakness, each one of us is weak in one area or another and that it is why it is wise to build a strong relationship with the Lord praying for His guidance.

Seems to me that you are doing a good job in helping this young man in his struggle. Please be aware also that perhaps one day, sooner rather than later, he will help you in your struggle as well.

How do you know when it is time to leave the relationship? That is a profound question with serious implications. My counsel is to ask yourself is it time to leave right now? If not, then continue to pray for this man and ask God to guide you in this relationship. As long as God is first and foremost in your relationship then I would say that it definitely has a chance to work out.

Glad to have you as a member of our community. I hope that you stick around awhile because there are members here that are definitely worth knowing. Please also know that each of our struggles are real and, by the grace of God, they shall be overcome.

Welcome to CC.
 

Daylilly

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You might be young but you certainly are not stupid and I don't believe that the man you are in a relationship with is evil either. He seems to just be a typical young man.

I understand your disappointment in that he is no longer a virgin but it is apparent that he respects your virginity and that is even more important. He also seems honest and that is a good character trait to build a relationship on.

Regarding his weakness, each one of us is weak in one area or another and that it is why it is wise to build a strong relationship with the Lord praying for His guidance.

Seems to me that you are doing a good job in helping this young man in his struggle. Please be aware also that perhaps one day, sooner rather than later, he will help you in your struggle as well.

How do you know when it is time to leave the relationship? That is a profound question with serious implications. My counsel is to ask yourself is it time to leave right now? If not, then continue to pray for this man and ask God to guide you in this relationship. As long as God is first and foremost in your relationship then I would say that it definitely has a chance to work out.

Glad to have you as a member of our community. I hope that you stick around awhile because there are members here that are definitely worth knowing. Please also know that each of our struggles are real and, by the grace of God, they shall be overcome.

Welcome to CC.
Mark 10:7-9
7 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife;

8 And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh.

9 What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.


1 Corinthians 6:15-17
15 Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid.

16 What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.

17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.
No disrespect intended, but what “bible” do You use??? The NKJV says
“‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’; so then they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate.””
‭‭Mark‬ ‭10:7-9‬ ‭NKJV‬‬
https://www.bible.com/114/mrk.10.7-9.nkjv

Thankyou for your wisdom
 

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No disrespect intended, but what “bible” do You use??? The NKJV says
“‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’; so then they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate.””
‭‭Mark‬ ‭10:7-9‬ ‭NKJV‬‬
https://www.bible.com/114/mrk.10.7-9.nkjv

Thankyou for your wisdom
I prefer the NKJV rendering as well.
 

tourist

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The porn doesn't even matter. The weightier matter is that you say that he's not a virgin. So this means real clearly that he is not for you. The woman he was with first is his real wife in the eyes of God and he should never part from her. Consider yourself blessed that you have a chance to escape before you were defiled. Find someone that is legitimate, you definitely are a rarity among women in this era, don't throw yourself away to Babylon.
How does the fact that the guy is not virgin equate to him not being the one for her? You expect this young man to commit to a lifetime arrangement with a woman because of a one night stand? Only God knows for sure whether He joined the two of them together in the first place, which I would say is highly unlikely. Being a virgin or not is hardly a weightier matter. Hopefully, the OP will disregard your ill conceived counsel.
 

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Thankyou for your thoughts. I do however believe in The redeeming grace Of Jesus Christ. And if we follow your line of logic, even I, in my virgin state, am not worthy of him.
My counsel is for you to disregard his line of illogic.
 

tourist

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Sure Lord Jesus can redeem them, but that means they have to acknowledge their evil and repent, literally, to turn back, from it. With the fornicators most of them will not ever repent, they'll feign it and keep living with their illegitimate lovers. Save yourself the heartbreak and get rid of the other woman's husband whom you ought not be with, you're worth more than that in the eyes of Jesus.
Total nonsense.
 

EternalFire

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Metaphorically speaking, I pray your legs are strengthened to run as far away as possible from this relationship. Pay careful attention to the part I put in bold below.

But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. For the desires of the flesh are against the Spirit, and the desires of the Spirit are against the flesh, for these are opposed to each other, to keep you from doing the things you want to do. But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law. Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law. And those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. If we live by the Spirit, let us also keep in step with the Spirit (Galatians 5:16-25).
 
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I was blessed to be raised in a strong Christian home with great parents.
I think you should talk with your parents if you have not already. Don't keep this to yourself and don't think that you can help him exclusive of anyone else.

I am very sorry that you have reason to be so disappointed and hurt.
 

Daylilly

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I think you should talk with your parents if you have not already. Don't keep this to yourself and don't think that you can help him exclusive of anyone else.

I am very sorry that you have reason to be so disappointed and hurt.
I agree that that is probably wisest. But even though I have wonderful parents, we have a hard time talking, especially with deeper, more serious, or sexually related things. My dad will need to know at some point, but I feel that is my boyfriend’s responsibility.
 
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No disrespect intended, but what “bible” do You use??? The NKJV says
“‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’; so then they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate.””
‭‭Mark‬ ‭10:7-9‬ ‭NKJV‬‬
https://www.bible.com/114/mrk.10.7-9.nkjv

Thankyou for your wisdom
Just the plain old KJV. Any translation is fine, the point still remains the same. God and his right ways have never changed.