Do you strive to make your calling and election sure?
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No you are blending them into one, they are two different works.
One of Christ in the flesh and the cross, past tense have been saved in regards to justification and receiving the holy spirit as the seed of your spiritual conception.
One of Christ in the spirit and abiding in the vine, present tense being saved in regards to having Christ Jesus fully formed in you.
Or did you not know that is what goes on between conception and birth?
My children, for whom I am again in the pains of childbirth until Christ is formed in you - Gal 4:19
After birth you begin to live in the light with Christ (in you) which is your hope of glory.
So You grow into the fullness of the stature of Christ Jesus and get filled up to all the fullness of God.
You drink up the milk of the word growing fat and healthy.
You start to recognize Gods voice.
Eventually you begin to understand a few words when He speaks.
Soon you are out of your diapers of sin and then you begin to live the rest of your mortal life for the glory of God
growing in strength into the fullness of the stature of Christ Jesus and become filled up to all the fullness of God.
Future tense salvation or the successful completion of salvation, you do not possess yet and that is dependent on your becoming born again into the likeness of Jesus, to Have Christ fully formed in you as the apostle said.
After such point you are born again and secure in that life.
receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your'souls. - 1 Peter 1:9
The question at hand in the original post is do you strive to make sure that is what is actually happening in you since your own fleshly heart of man is so deceitfully wicked (self deception)?
These are the instruction from the word of God how to be sure you are not deceiving yourself.
seeing that His divine power has granted to us everything pertaining to life and godliness, through the true knowledge of Him who called us by His own glory and excellence. For by these He has granted to us His precious and magnificent promises, so that by them you may become partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world by lust.
You have everything that is necessary in order to become partakers of the divine nature and escape our sins.
Now for this very reason (what reason, oh yes divine nature, Christ in you) also, applying all diligence, in your faith supply moral excellence, and in your moral excellence, knowledge, and in your knowledge, self-control, and in your self-control, perseverance, and in your perseverance, godliness, and in your godliness, brotherly kindness, and in your brotherly kindness, love. For if these qualities are yours and are increasing, they render you neither useless nor unfruitful in the true knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ
If these are yours...
Are you unfruitful?...
For he who lacks these qualities is blind or short-sighted, having forgotten his purification from his former sins.
Are you lacking, short-sighted, blind?
Have you forgotten the cross of Christ?
Therefore, brothers, strive to make your calling and election sure. For if you practice these things you will never stumble, and you will receive a lavish reception into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. - 2 Peter 1
In your heart are you sure, do you want to be.
Peter tells us how we can be.
One of Christ in the flesh and the cross, past tense have been saved in regards to justification and receiving the holy spirit as the seed of your spiritual conception.
One of Christ in the spirit and abiding in the vine, present tense being saved in regards to having Christ Jesus fully formed in you.
Or did you not know that is what goes on between conception and birth?
My children, for whom I am again in the pains of childbirth until Christ is formed in you - Gal 4:19
After birth you begin to live in the light with Christ (in you) which is your hope of glory.
So You grow into the fullness of the stature of Christ Jesus and get filled up to all the fullness of God.
You drink up the milk of the word growing fat and healthy.
You start to recognize Gods voice.
Eventually you begin to understand a few words when He speaks.
Soon you are out of your diapers of sin and then you begin to live the rest of your mortal life for the glory of God
growing in strength into the fullness of the stature of Christ Jesus and become filled up to all the fullness of God.
Future tense salvation or the successful completion of salvation, you do not possess yet and that is dependent on your becoming born again into the likeness of Jesus, to Have Christ fully formed in you as the apostle said.
After such point you are born again and secure in that life.
receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your'souls. - 1 Peter 1:9
The question at hand in the original post is do you strive to make sure that is what is actually happening in you since your own fleshly heart of man is so deceitfully wicked (self deception)?
These are the instruction from the word of God how to be sure you are not deceiving yourself.
seeing that His divine power has granted to us everything pertaining to life and godliness, through the true knowledge of Him who called us by His own glory and excellence. For by these He has granted to us His precious and magnificent promises, so that by them you may become partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world by lust.
You have everything that is necessary in order to become partakers of the divine nature and escape our sins.
Now for this very reason (what reason, oh yes divine nature, Christ in you) also, applying all diligence, in your faith supply moral excellence, and in your moral excellence, knowledge, and in your knowledge, self-control, and in your self-control, perseverance, and in your perseverance, godliness, and in your godliness, brotherly kindness, and in your brotherly kindness, love. For if these qualities are yours and are increasing, they render you neither useless nor unfruitful in the true knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ
If these are yours...
Are you unfruitful?...
For he who lacks these qualities is blind or short-sighted, having forgotten his purification from his former sins.
Are you lacking, short-sighted, blind?
Have you forgotten the cross of Christ?
Therefore, brothers, strive to make your calling and election sure. For if you practice these things you will never stumble, and you will receive a lavish reception into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. - 2 Peter 1
In your heart are you sure, do you want to be.
Peter tells us how we can be.
in your faith supply moral excellence, and in your moral excellence, knowledge.
So many seem to skip the first step.
But without moral excellence how will you see in order to get true knowledge?
How will you grasp knowledge without tainting it with the filth of your sin?
The truth is if you are still a slave to sin your knowledge can not be trusted.
One thing leads to another....
faith -> moral excellence -> knowledge -> self-control -> perseverance -> godliness -> brotherly kindness -> love.
Welcome to the narrow path.
Welcome to the way.
So many seem to skip the first step.
But without moral excellence how will you see in order to get true knowledge?
How will you grasp knowledge without tainting it with the filth of your sin?
The truth is if you are still a slave to sin your knowledge can not be trusted.
One thing leads to another....
faith -> moral excellence -> knowledge -> self-control -> perseverance -> godliness -> brotherly kindness -> love.
Welcome to the narrow path.
Welcome to the way.
Therefore, brothers, strive to make your calling and election sure. For if you practice these things you will never stumble, and you will receive a lavish reception into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. - 2 Peter 1
In your heart are you sure, do you want to be.
Peter tells us how we can be.[/QUOTE]
This is back to where we started.
I still hold that promises are unconditional and laws are conditional.
I am sure of my calling and election as it is not grounded in me or my good works, but in God's promises to His children, rooted in Christ's perfect obedience in my stead. You can build your foundation on the mistaken notion that promises of God are conditional as they were under the Old Covenant ('If you obey, then I will do') rather than on faith in Jesus Christ (in Whom all the promises are yea and Amen').
I'll leave you to preach and dictate to yourself as obviously you are set in your beliefs and I in mine. I'd rather spend my time more wisely. Good day.
In your heart are you sure, do you want to be.
Peter tells us how we can be.[/QUOTE]
This is back to where we started.
I still hold that promises are unconditional and laws are conditional.
I am sure of my calling and election as it is not grounded in me or my good works, but in God's promises to His children, rooted in Christ's perfect obedience in my stead. You can build your foundation on the mistaken notion that promises of God are conditional as they were under the Old Covenant ('If you obey, then I will do') rather than on faith in Jesus Christ (in Whom all the promises are yea and Amen').
I'll leave you to preach and dictate to yourself as obviously you are set in your beliefs and I in mine. I'd rather spend my time more wisely. Good day.
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Try reading this then.
His divine power has given us everything we need for life and godliness.... Through these He has given us His precious and magnificent promises, so that through them you may become partakers of the divine nature.
The promises are through something else.
We have everything we need to lay hold of them given to us.
The promises are not just a get out of hell free card.
The promises are connected to becoming, partakers of the divine nature ourselves.
So if through receiving the promises you are doing just that or perhaps not.
Thankfully you can test yourself to make sure you are in the faith.
Strive to make you calling and election sure, to be sure you have received the promises and what is supposed to come through them.
Peter say how to test yourself, if you fail this side of eternity you can start over, the other side is not where you want to find out.
But enough struggling with you. If you cant accept, don't see, or just don't want it that way then you just ahead and go your own way.
His divine power has given us everything we need for life and godliness.... Through these He has given us His precious and magnificent promises, so that through them you may become partakers of the divine nature.
The promises are through something else.
We have everything we need to lay hold of them given to us.
The promises are not just a get out of hell free card.
The promises are connected to becoming, partakers of the divine nature ourselves.
So if through receiving the promises you are doing just that or perhaps not.
Thankfully you can test yourself to make sure you are in the faith.
Strive to make you calling and election sure, to be sure you have received the promises and what is supposed to come through them.
Peter say how to test yourself, if you fail this side of eternity you can start over, the other side is not where you want to find out.
But enough struggling with you. If you cant accept, don't see, or just don't want it that way then you just ahead and go your own way.
Really need to post pretty much the entire preceding verses to gain real context of what is being said. Plucking one verse is such a bad habit us Christians do. Because of that, it has turned this thread into another works debate.
He has given us everything we need to live how we should.
We need to believe that.
When we do, then go on from verse 10...
He has given us everything we need to live how we should.
We need to believe that.
When we do, then go on from verse 10...
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One of my favorite passages to live by, teach and share with others.
3According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue: 4Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust. 5And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge; 6And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness; 7And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity. 8For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins. 10Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall: 11For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
To me it is very clear that by following these instructions I will make sure that I do not backslide. Many do not follow these intructions and out of neglect slip back into sins they were once delivred from. Why? we ask. The answer is because they did not follow these instructions. Are they saved? Not if they stay in that condition. And if they repent from their FALLING and their backsliding how will they have confidence that they will not fall again? By following these instructions. It is that simple.
I don't get caught up in the philosophical arguments about OSAS I simply follow these instructions in order to know that I will never fall. If I don't follow these instructions I know that I can fall and probably would. So don't ignore these instructions and you will not fall away. Let the others argue about OSAS just make sure you are DOING what Peter said to do.
3According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue: 4Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust. 5And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge; 6And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness; 7And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity. 8For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins. 10Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall: 11For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
To me it is very clear that by following these instructions I will make sure that I do not backslide. Many do not follow these intructions and out of neglect slip back into sins they were once delivred from. Why? we ask. The answer is because they did not follow these instructions. Are they saved? Not if they stay in that condition. And if they repent from their FALLING and their backsliding how will they have confidence that they will not fall again? By following these instructions. It is that simple.
I don't get caught up in the philosophical arguments about OSAS I simply follow these instructions in order to know that I will never fall. If I don't follow these instructions I know that I can fall and probably would. So don't ignore these instructions and you will not fall away. Let the others argue about OSAS just make sure you are DOING what Peter said to do.
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Notice the admonition to brotherly kindness and love. Some of those in these CC posting are not nice and are not kind and so I would guess that sin waits at their door crouching or may have already entered in and they are not mastering it and they are falling, have fallen or will fall. Unless they practice brotherly kindness they cannot be sure of not falling.
You just made that up. 
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