Is the teaching of Jesus before His crucifixion only for Jews?

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If Jesus did not intend for his teachings to apply to all mankind, then why did he pray for all? He clearly prayed to the Father concerning those alive at that time, and all that would follow.

Neither I pray for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word. John 17:20

Clearly Jesus intended for all to receive his teachings, and to do so through the words of the disciples. Another Scripture speaks of the need for Preachers to preach the teachings of Jesus so that people can believe. Jesus went to Gentiles also, and taught them. He taught an entire village of Gentiles when he spoke with the woman at the well.
What do you think of Matthew 15:24, Matthew 10:5 and Matthew 19:28 then?

Were they also for us?
 
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No. Jesus was for all the worlds sinners.
Read John 10
And I have other sheep which are not of this fold. It behooves Me to bring those also, and they will hear My voice, and there will be one flock with one shepherd.
Were the members of the body of Christ ever described as sheep in Romans to Philemon?
 

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Yes, and your point is?

Jesus made additions to the Law of Moses throughout the 4 gospels correct, for example, the Sermon on the Mount.
My point is, if you believe disciple don't need teach of Moses to Jews because they already know, why you say Jesus ask disciples to teach law of Moses to Jews
 
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My point is, if you believe disciple don't need teach of Moses to Jews because they already know, why you say Jesus ask disciples to teach law of Moses to Jews
Jesus asked them to teach others "everything he commanded them", which included the Law of Moses and beyond.

They needed to add these 2 particular commands to the Law of Moses, for the rest of the Jews, that is to believe that Jesus is their promised Son of God, and be water baptized, which Peter did in Acts 2:38.
 

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Were the members of the body of Christ ever described as sheep in Romans to Philemon?
Hebrews 13:20
Now may the God of peace who brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, the great shepherd of the sheep, by the blood of the eternal covenant,
 
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Hebrews 13:20
Now may the God of peace who brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, the great shepherd of the sheep, by the blood of the eternal covenant,
And Hebrews is written to...
 

Jackson123

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They needed to add these 2 particular commands to the Law of Moses, for the rest of the Jews, that is to believe that Jesus is their promised Son of God, and be water baptized, which Peter did in Acts 2:38.
To add 2 command?

To add to the law of Moses?
So you believe Christian must practice law of Moses like animal sacrifice + 2 additional law?
 
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To add 2 command?

To add to the law of Moses?
So you believe Christian must practice law of Moses like animal sacrifice + 2 additional law?
Acts 2:38 made it clear what Peter was preaching to Israel, who were already following the Law.

Basically Peter is reminding them that Moses prophesied that Jesus was the great prophet that God would raise for Israel, and they are to obey him (Acts 3:22).

So the Law pointed them to Jesus as their Messiah.
 

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Acts 2:38 made it clear what Peter was preaching to Israel, who were already following the Law.

Basically Peter is reminding them that Moses prophesied that Jesus was the great prophet that God would raise for Israel, and they are to obey him (Acts 3:22).

So the Law pointed them to Jesus as their Messiah.
The first Christian tradition was Christian Judaism and the congregation numbered at about 120 persons. Acts 1.
 

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You mean after that link you provided me, you still want to claim that Hebrews was placed between Romans to Philemon?
Did you click the link?
What's your real point? Regardless, Hebrews appears after Philemon, OK. What's your point? Are you trying to tell us that the Jews were not part of the early church? That they were not the sheep in the body of Christ?
 
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Did you click the link?
What's your real point? Regardless, Hebrews appears after Philemon, OK. What's your point? Are you trying to tell us that the Jews were not part of the early church? That they were not the sheep in the body of Christ?
Okay, to settle one point at a time, you do agree that, no books between Romans to Philemon ever described the Body of Christ as sheep correct?
 

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Okay, to settle one point at a time, you do agree that, no books between Romans to Philemon ever described the Body of Christ as sheep correct?
Thanks for continuing in circles and avoiding the question. Have a blessed evening.