Sabbath Day

Apostol2013 · Sep 4, 2020

The Sabbath Day is a Gift from GOD with origins of a celestial origin that only remains a mystery but it is very true This thread is for those on constructive motives that it may be a blessing , each one has their core beliefs I believe in the Sabbath day a Gift to mankind to that it is of Divine origine not just of law but in fact predates law .this goes in accordance with Jesus He even taught the importance of the Sabbath .

JaumeJ · Sep 4, 2020

Thank you. Now if folks will hear...

Apostol2013 · Sep 4, 2020

First of all the Sabbath was established at the creation, Moses at least the law of Moses was just stating an important thing before God. This is very biblical many people argue that the Sabbath was just for Jews book the Sabbath was for all creation in the beginning.

GandalfTheWhite · Sep 4, 2020

stepbystep · Sep 4, 2020

I am not an expert in this area, but, are there not many different Sabbaths?

Also, I do know Jesus said Man was not created for the Sabbath, but the Sabbath for man. Speaking of the say man worships God.

He also had things to say concerning the criticism he received when the disciples were harvesting and eating ears of corn on the Jewish Sabbath.

Are there Scriptures from the Gospel of Jesus that specifically state that the Jewish Sabbath transferred from the 1st Covenant to the New Covenant? I can not remember on specifically. I believe that the Church in the New Testament met and worshiped God on the 1st day of the week according to Scripture. Do not remember the exact Scripture right off.

Whatever day one chooses to worship God is not a great issue for me. There are those who worship God on Saturday, and those who worship God on Sundays. One day over the other does not make one a Christian and one not in my opinion. What is a great issue is that one sets aside a day to focus on worshiping God. We all should worship him every day of our lives, but to set aside one day to focus on that worship is a good thing, and may fulfill the idea of the Sabbath.

Apostol2013 · Sep 4, 2020

Yes there's many sabbaths in the feast of the Lord there's high Sabbath's there is the Sabbath at Passover they were special Sabbath the Sabbath was of the beginning and not of the law. Now when Jesus was doing thing he wasn't against the law he was actually doing according to God's laws but the Pharisee system at the time which is still in place it's called when we call a talmud and this is what your shoe I used to speak against in the Book of Matthew 23 the sages sit on Moses seat do whatsoever they tell you but you not do after their takahnot ( traditions/talmud) much of the many scriptures in the Book of Matthew that we read today in our Bibles has incomplete translations what's changes the view of the entire word but one translated in the mother tongue of our people we begin to see understanding of what the word is actually saying.

JaumeJ · Sep 4, 2020

The law came long after the Sabbath of the Lord was given to us to enjoy.

You continue thinking it is a law and not a gift, and you will never understand the Seventh Day, especially as regarding the day we are in now, that being, most likely, the sixth day, coming very rapidaly to its end.

Apostol2013 · Sep 4, 2020

The Sunday law was made by the Catholic church when they hijack the gospel and excluded the Jewish presence of the day they changed everything I for 2,000 years we've been blinded by the Catholic beast system I am a Protestant believer. And a descendant of Abraham Isaac and Jacob. We serve the Catholic church for centuries and then one day I learned the word of God as a child and I realized I was not in the right church and decided to move away from the Catholic Church and became a Protestant at the early age. Nobody is obligated to worship on Sabbath or Sunday to know history and how today came about very important in the worship of God

Apostol2013 · Sep 4, 2020

JaumeJ said:

Thank you people view this as a law but it is actually a gift to man and laws like touch not do this not are things that have been done away . That we may worship God in spirit and Truth

mailmandan · Sep 4, 2020

Apostol2013 said:

What do YOU believe the gospel IS and also what do YOU believe it means to BELIEVE the gospel? (Romans 1:16)

mailmandan · Sep 4, 2020

Although God's rest on the seventh day (Genesis 2:3) did foreshadow a future Sabbath law, there is no Biblical record of the Sabbath before the children of Israel left the land of Egypt. Nowhere in Scripture is there any hint that Sabbath keeping was practiced from Adam to Moses.

The word "Sabbath" first appears in Exodus 16:23 - Then he said to them, “This is what the Lord has said: ‘Tomorrow is a Sabbath rest, a holy Sabbath to the Lord. Bake what you will bake today, and boil what you will boil; and lay up for yourselves all that remains, to be kept until morning.

Sabbath keeping with all it's rules and regulations, was part of a covenant with Israel (Exodus 16:23, 29; 31:12-18; 35:1-3; Leviticus 19:30; 23:2-3, 32; Numbers 15:32-36; 28:1-10; 29:39-40; I Chronicles. 23:30-31; II Chronicles 31:2-4; Isaiah 1:13; Amos 8:5; Nehemiah 10:31) that is not binding on Christians in the New Testament.

God's Word makes it clear that Sabbath observance was a sign between God and Israel: “The Israelites are to observe the Sabbath, celebrating it for the generations to come as a lasting covenant. It will be a sign between me and the Israelites forever, for in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, and on the seventh day he abstained from work and rested.” (Exodus 31:16-17)

In Deuteronomy 5, Moses restates the Ten Commandments to the next generation of Israelites. Here, after commanding Sabbath observance in verses 12–14, Moses gives the reason the Sabbath was given to the nation Israel: “Remember that you were slaves in Egypt and that the Lord your God brought you out of there with a mighty hand and an outstretched arm. Therefore the Lord your God has commanded you to observe the Sabbath day.” (Deuteronomy 5:15)

*Nowhere in the New Testament is the Church commanded to keep the weekly Sabbath day and to the contrary we find:

*Colossians 2:16 - Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day— 17 things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ.

Blik · Sep 4, 2020

mailmandan said:

And so today's church has decided that what is told in the OT does not really apply to God.

When Paul told the Colossians it was fine to obey God in celebrating salvation with feasts because the Gnostics were telling them that God was only spiritual so anything physical was not right, the church has used what Paul told them as a reason not to celebrate the feasts.

So the church judges those who believe in what God tells us about His creation as Sabbath keepers and Judaizers, yet those who believe the Lord go to church on the day they have declared a Sabbath because that is the day the church that God loves has decided on.

If they are told it is the decision of men, not of God, you can see the fleshly logic they come up with. It has become the logic universally accepted by almost every man who makes up the entire church.

gb9 · Sep 4, 2020

keeping the jewish Sabbath has 0 to do with salvation through faith in Christ.

Apostol2013 · Sep 5, 2020

mailmandan said:

Now if you view it as law I see your defence mechanism but as it is written
Genesis 2
1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. xref-4 [xref-1]
3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made. Now here we see He sanctified it he hallowed it , separated that day so the Sabbath was proclaimed holy likewise who taught adam or abel or even cain how to sacrifice yet it was before Israel yet if you see when God cast adam and eve from eden they were given clothing of skin wich they were instructed on how to sacrifice to GOD wich we see later with Cain and abel and all through the bible and the Sabbath is of Divine nature for we see in the new heavens and the new Earth that the Lord is going to create .and the Sabbath Is part of the Creation Covenant that means it's a paradigm to be followed through all creation an on in that same passage it reads blessed is the man that keepeth the Sabbath and the Son of Man that taketh a hold of it and keepeth from doing evil on that day .and Jesus said also in Mathew 24 :20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: you see Jesus spoke of a future time if the Sabbath be nothing then why bring it up .(food for thought .and apostle paul spoke concerning being judged according to laws . But the law to them was but a schoolmaster so at that time people were being judaized by the orthodox

WithinReason · Sep 5, 2020

stepbystep said:

Between ignorance and presumption is a fine line:

1Jn_2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

WithinReason · Sep 5, 2020

gb9 said:

I have searched my entire Bible (KJB), in English, and cannot find this "jewish Sabbath" that you speak of. Do you have a scriptural reference please?

I do find the "Sabbath of the LORD thy God" in scripture, as for instance Exodus 20:8-11, &c., however.

WithinReason · Sep 5, 2020

mailmandan said:

Simple. one word. "Jesus" (meaning JEHOVAH is my salvation (from sin)), and He being the Lord of the Sabbath.

WithinReason · Sep 5, 2020

stepbystep said:

It ought to be, since a Christian is to worship God 24/7/365, which includes obedience to His commandments in His salvation offered in Christ Jesus.

If a person (knowingly, that is presumptuously) does not rest as God commands on the 7th day, as He did, then they are worshipping something or someone else other than the LORD of the Sabbath.

I am not speaking of the ignorant (not knowing). God winks at ignorance, but also stated by Paul:

Act 14:15 And saying, Sirs, why do ye these things? We also are men of like passions with you, and preach unto you that ye should turn from these vanities unto the living God, which made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all things that are therein:

Act 14:16 Who in times past suffered all nations to walk in their own ways.

Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Act 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

Then see Acts 15:13-19, Amos 9:11-12, and then Isaiah 56:1-8 and John 10:16.

WithinReason · Sep 5, 2020

mailmandan said:

Hebrews 4. Read slowly and prayerfully. Yet even so, where did you get the pharisaical idea that a commandment must be found only in the pages of Matthew to Revelation to be valid? Are you sure about that? I have some other commandments that exist only in the pages of Genesis to Malachi that you might desire to look at, unless you would like to throw them out too (like on witchcraft, &c)?

mailmandan said:

I love Colossians 2 (if only you would read it in its proper context and cease from taking it out of context):

Powerpoint here (let me know when you actually desire to discuss, rather than continue to ignore me as you have in the past on numerous forums)

https://archive.org/download/colossians-2vs-16/Colossians 2vs16.pptx

WithinReason · Sep 5, 2020

Just for good measure:

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