Bible Corruptions

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SoulWeaver

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Please pray for me that I will receive this eyesalve, and that I will receive deliverance from being too dumb to understand the KJV on it's own.
I commend your patient and forbearing attitude, Sis. How sad that some native English speakers refuse to acknowledge others and demand everybody read the same outdated text that is difficult for most of us.
 

J-T

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How Much Did Your Bible Cost?

How much do you know about
Church history & The Holy Bible?


 

J-T

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I am not really all that knowledgeable about this debate... but I do know one thing I have yet to read within the King James Bible this endorsement by God....."The King James Bible is my infallible version for all time"
Apparently, there have been many debates, but in the end, one side of the debate is true and the other is false. I posted a couple of videos by Pastor Jewell Smith that are very informative. After you watch them and learn about the faithful martyrs, pause for a moment and consider that the Roman Catholic Church burned King James Bibles in the streets of New York in the 1880's or 1890's or so, some 290 years after the King James Bible was published. That was approximately 140 years ago. Since that time, they have been actively engaged in deceiving the entire world toward the One World Religion and the One World Government better known as the New World Order, which will lead right into the Great Tribulation with the reign of the Antichrist. They are responsible for publishing all of the "Modern Translations", and this includes the JW's re-written N.W.T., and the Seventh Day Adventists' re-written Clear Word Bible, as well as the Church of Satan's antichrist bible, which is published by the same publishing company that publishes the N.I.V.
 

J-T

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President Ronald Reagan on the Authorized King James Bible
"The following transcript is one of Ronald Reagan's famous radio addresses. In this address (which aired September 6, 1977), Ronald Reagan, the great orator, eloquently gives his thoughts on the "Good News Bible" (also called the Good News for Modern Man and Today's English Version) in comparison to the Authorized Version or the King James Bible.

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TRANSCRIPT OF AUDIO:

"What would you say if someone decided Shakespeare's plays, Charles Dicken's novels, or the music of Beethoven could be rewritten & improved? I'll be right back. . . Writing in the journal "The Alternative", Richard Hanser, author of The Law & the Prophets and Jesus: What Manner of Man Is This?, has called attention to something that is more than a little mind boggling. It is my understanding that the Bible (both the Old & New Testaments) has been the best selling book in the entire history of printing. Now another attempt has been made to improve it. I say another because there have been several fairly recent efforts to quote "make the Bible more readable & understandable" unquote. But as Mr. Hanser so eloquently says, "For more than 3 1/2 centuries, its language and its images, have penetrated more deeply into the general culture of the English speaking world, and been more dearly treasured, than anything else ever put on paper." He then quotes the irreverent H. L. Mencken, who spoke of it as purely a literary work and said it was, "probably the most beautiful piece of writing in any language." They were, of course, speaking of The Authorized Version, the one that came into being when the England of King James was scoured for translators & scholars. It was a time when the English language had reached it's peak of richness & beauty. Now we are to have The Good News Bible which will be in, "the natural English of everyday adult conversation." I'm sure the scholars and clergymen supervised by the American Bible Society were sincerely imbued with the thought that they were taking religion to the people with their Good News Bible, but I can't help feeling we should instead be taking the people to religion and lifting them with the beauty of language that has outlived the centuries. Mr. Hanser has quoted from both the St. James Version & the Good News Bible some well known passages for us to compare. A few thousand years ago Job said "How forcible are right words!" [Job 6:25] The new translators have him saying "Honest words are convincing." That's only for openers. There is the passage [Eccl. 1:18], "For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow". Is it really an improvement to say instead, "The wiser you are, the more worries you have; the more you know the more it hurts." In the New Testament, in Mathew, we read "The voice of the one crying in the wilderness. Prepare ye the way." [Matthew 3:3] The Good News version translates that, "Someone is shouting in the desert. Get the road ready." It sounds like a straw boss announcing lunch hour is over. The hauntingly beautiful 23rd Psalm is the same in both versions, for a few words, "The Lord is my shepherd" but instead of continuing "I shall not want" we are supposed to say "I have everything I need." The Christmas story has undergone some modernizing but one can hardly call it improved. The wondrous words "Fear not: for; behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy" has become, "Don't be afraid! I am here with good news for you." The sponsors of the Good News version boast that their Bible is as readable as the daily paper -- and so it is. But do readers of the daily news find themselves moved to wonder, "at the gracious words which proceeded out of his mouth"? Mr. Hanser suggests that sadly the "tinkering & general horsing around with the sacred texts will no doubt continue" as pious drudges try to get it right. "It will not dawn on them that it has already been gotten right."

This is Ronald Reagan. Thanks for listening." — aired September 6, 1977"
 

Dino246

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You still have not made yourself clear. You quoted my post, which contained my words intended for someone else, and posted a comment that was not specified to be intended for anyone else. How do I know that it was not directed at me, unless you first clarify yourself? You should apologize for wasting my time with your games.

Would you prefer copy & paste of the definition from a Google Search?

Fallacy
A fallacy is the use of invalid or otherwise faulty reasoning, or "wrong moves" in the construction of an argument. A fallacious argument may be deceptive by appearing to be better than it really is. Some fallacies are committed intentionally to manipulate or persuade by deception, while others are committed unintentionally due to carelessness or ignorance.
You looked it up. Excellent.

Here is your statement from your post to Mustapha: "I am far from being angry, and therefore belligerent is not a proper to describe me either." The statement in bold here does not logically follow from the preceding claim, therefore it is a non sequitur fallacy; "it does not follow". One can be belligerent without being angry, and angry without being belligerent.

Your response to me was, "Here, you have accused me of speaking falsely when I did not." In other words, you took it personally.

I did not accuse you of "speaking falsely"; I identified a fallacy in your post. You responded with a load of high-minded horse dung, accusing me of all sorts of evil motivations and so on, rather than admitting that identification of a fallacy is not an accusation of speaking falsely.

Again, I suggest you tone down your rhetoric and try your best to treat others with respect rather than assuming everyone is your enemy. Your response to EleventhHour is exactly the wrong kind of comment to make.

Here's a free tip: the one who thinks everyone else is a jerk is most likely the jerk.
 

Dino246

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Apparently, there have been many debates, but in the end, one side of the debate is true and the other is false. I posted a couple of videos by Pastor Jewell Smith that are very informative. After you watch them and learn about the faithful martyrs, pause for a moment and consider that the Roman Catholic Church burned King James Bibles in the streets of New York in the 1880's or 1890's or so, some 290 years after the King James Bible was published. That was approximately 140 years ago. Since that time, they have been actively engaged in deceiving the entire world toward the One World Religion and the One World Government better known as the New World Order, which will lead right into the Great Tribulation with the reign of the Antichrist. They are responsible for publishing all of the "Modern Translations", and this includes the JW's re-written N.W.T., and the Seventh Day Adventists' re-written Clear Word Bible, as well as the Church of Satan's antichrist bible, which is published by the same publishing company that publishes the N.I.V.
Fallacy: guilt by association.

Dude, do your homework. It's child's play refuting your arguments.
 

J-T

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Message Bible "as above, so below"-Satanist Aleister Crowley

Please consider and heed Pastor Charles Lawson's fervent warning to Believers:
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Gnostics In Sheep's Clothing (Pastor Charles Lawson)
zion4131
Published on Jul 1, 2018

"Sunday (Morning) Preaching: Jul 1 2018

"Another Jesus," With Whom They Can Be Comfortable In Their Natural Condition, Is Who Is Preached In Liberal Churches Today. These People Also Say To Be "Unhinged" From the Old Testament: The Old Testament Which Speaks of Christ Jesus In Prophecies, In Appearances and In Types. Scripture: II Corinthians 11:4"
There is indeed an Occult Agenda Against The Holy Bible, and this is sample of evident proof from the "Message Bible": Message Bible Website >>>> Click Here <<<<

They REPLACED the holy words of The Lord Jesus Christ with the unholy words of Satan the Devil, found in the antichrist writings of Aleister Crowley, to deceive masses of people into blaspheming God by praying to the Devil, as they craftily rewrote the Bible "wresting the scriptures" to subtily preach and teach "another jesus" who is none other than Lucifer/Satan!!

The Satanic words "as above, so below" are not found in any manuscript, but instead originate from the Occult work known as the "Emerald Tablet".

This antichrist practice of Gnostism has been done to all of the so-called "easy to read Modern Translations, hence is why they are correctly and appropriately termed as being "Gnostic Perversions" of the Bible.

Message Bible Re-write of Matthew 6:10: "Set the world right; Do what's best - as above, so below."
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King James Bible: Matthew 6:10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
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Further evidence, of some of those behind the Occult Agenda, can be found on this thread regarding the work of the Illuminati: >>>> HERE <<<< More coming soon!
 

Dino246

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President Ronald Reagan on the Authorized King James Bible
"The following transcript is one of Ronald Reagan's famous radio addresses. In this address (which aired September 6, 1977), Ronald Reagan, the great orator, eloquently gives his thoughts on the "Good News Bible" (also called the Good News for Modern Man and Today's English Version) in comparison to the Authorized Version or the King James Bible.

------
TRANSCRIPT OF AUDIO:

"What would you say if someone decided Shakespeare's plays, Charles Dicken's novels, or the music of Beethoven could be rewritten & improved? I'll be right back. . . Writing in the journal "The Alternative", Richard Hanser, author of The Law & the Prophets and Jesus: What Manner of Man Is This?, has called attention to something that is more than a little mind boggling. It is my understanding that the Bible (both the Old & New Testaments) has been the best selling book in the entire history of printing. Now another attempt has been made to improve it. I say another because there have been several fairly recent efforts to quote "make the Bible more readable & understandable" unquote. But as Mr. Hanser so eloquently says, "For more than 3 1/2 centuries, its language and its images, have penetrated more deeply into the general culture of the English speaking world, and been more dearly treasured, than anything else ever put on paper." He then quotes the irreverent H. L. Mencken, who spoke of it as purely a literary work and said it was, "probably the most beautiful piece of writing in any language." They were, of course, speaking of The Authorized Version, the one that came into being when the England of King James was scoured for translators & scholars. It was a time when the English language had reached it's peak of richness & beauty. Now we are to have The Good News Bible which will be in, "the natural English of everyday adult conversation." I'm sure the scholars and clergymen supervised by the American Bible Society were sincerely imbued with the thought that they were taking religion to the people with their Good News Bible, but I can't help feeling we should instead be taking the people to religion and lifting them with the beauty of language that has outlived the centuries. Mr. Hanser has quoted from both the St. James Version & the Good News Bible some well known passages for us to compare. A few thousand years ago Job said "How forcible are right words!" [Job 6:25] The new translators have him saying "Honest words are convincing." That's only for openers. There is the passage [Eccl. 1:18], "For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow". Is it really an improvement to say instead, "The wiser you are, the more worries you have; the more you know the more it hurts." In the New Testament, in Mathew, we read "The voice of the one crying in the wilderness. Prepare ye the way." [Matthew 3:3] The Good News version translates that, "Someone is shouting in the desert. Get the road ready." It sounds like a straw boss announcing lunch hour is over. The hauntingly beautiful 23rd Psalm is the same in both versions, for a few words, "The Lord is my shepherd" but instead of continuing "I shall not want" we are supposed to say "I have everything I need." The Christmas story has undergone some modernizing but one can hardly call it improved. The wondrous words "Fear not: for; behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy" has become, "Don't be afraid! I am here with good news for you." The sponsors of the Good News version boast that their Bible is as readable as the daily paper -- and so it is. But do readers of the daily news find themselves moved to wonder, "at the gracious words which proceeded out of his mouth"? Mr. Hanser suggests that sadly the "tinkering & general horsing around with the sacred texts will no doubt continue" as pious drudges try to get it right. "It will not dawn on them that it has already been gotten right."

This is Ronald Reagan. Thanks for listening." — aired September 6, 1977"
Fallacy: Appeal to irrelevant authority.
 

J-T

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Lucifer #3 NIV, Confusion and Motives (Pastor Charles Lawson)
zion4131
Published on Sep 20, 2013

"Sunday School

Manuscript evidence explains the discrepancies between new translations and KJV. Motive is revealed by Gail Riplinger in her book "New Age Bible Versions" and evidenced by observations from various sources. Scripture: 2 Peter 1:19 & Revelation 2:26-28

www.thelionofjudah.org "

Why I Believe The King James Bible (Pastor Charles Lawson)
zion4131
Published on Dec 27, 2013

"Sunday School

Believing That God Inspired His Word (and His Word Is Pure), We Know That He Would Moreover Preserve It . Two Distinct Lines of Manuscripts Up Until 1889. Enter Wescott And Hort, Whose Corrupted Greek Manuscript Is the Basis For All of the New Versions.

Website: pastorcharleslawson.org/ "
Further evidence, of some of those behind the Occult Agenda, can be found on this thread regarding the work of the Illuminati: >>>> HERE <<<< More coming soon!
 

NotmebutHim

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I'm enjoying the ride, how 'bout y'all?? :cautious: :cool:
 

NotmebutHim

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It is possible to love the KJV and yet not believe that any and all other translations/versions are Satanic.
 

J-T

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Dino246

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Message Bible "as above, so below"-Satanist Aleister Crowley

Please consider and heed Pastor Charles Lawson's fervent warning to Believers:
__________________________________________________________________________________________


Gnostics In Sheep's Clothing (Pastor Charles Lawson)
zion4131
Published on Jul 1, 2018


"Sunday (Morning) Preaching: Jul 1 2018

"Another Jesus," With Whom They Can Be Comfortable In Their Natural Condition, Is Who Is Preached In Liberal Churches Today. These People Also Say To Be "Unhinged" From the Old Testament: The Old Testament Which Speaks of Christ Jesus In Prophecies, In Appearances and In Types. Scripture: II Corinthians 11:4"
There is indeed an Occult Agenda Against The Holy Bible, and this is sample of evident proof from the "Message Bible": Message Bible Website >>>> Click Here <<<<


They REPLACED the holy words of The Lord Jesus Christ with the unholy words of Satan the Devil, found in the antichrist writings of Aleister Crowley, to deceive masses of people into blaspheming God by praying to the Devil, as they craftily rewrote the Bible "wresting the scriptures" to subtily preach and teach "another jesus" who is none other than Lucifer/Satan!!

The Satanic words "as above, so below" are not found in any manuscript, but instead originate from the Occult work known as the "Emerald Tablet".

This antichrist practice of Gnostism has been done to all of the so-called "easy to read Modern Translations, hence is why they are correctly and appropriately termed as being "Gnostic Perversions" of the Bible.

Message Bible Re-write of Matthew 6:10: "Set the world right; Do what's best - as above, so below."
______________________
King James Bible: Matthew 6:10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

______________________________________
Further evidence, of some of those behind the Occult Agenda, can be found on this thread regarding the work of the Illuminati: >>>> HERE <<<< More coming soon!
Is it possible for you to stop YELLING? Plain text and 15-point font is quite adequate.

You're bouncing all over the place, and I doubt that anyone is going to attempt to follow you.

You previously claimed that the KJV in "inerrant". The KJV records two different ages at which Ahaziah took the throne:

2 Kings 8:26 Two and twenty years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign; and he reigned one year in Jerusalem. And his mother's name was Athaliah, the daughter of Omri king of Israel.

2 Chronicles 22:2 Forty and two years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign, and he reigned one year in Jerusalem. His mother's name also was Athaliah the daughter of Omri.

One of them is wrong, therefore the KJV is not "inerrant".

Attacking other translations over their alleged errors when your favourite contains blatant errors is hypocritical.
 

J-T

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J-T

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A Few Tiny Changes

Chicktracts
Published on Sep 21, 2015
"Vlog 132: A few tiny Bible college mistakes to avoid, so we promote faith, not doubt. God bless you all! - David W. Daniels"

Can One Verse Change a Doctrine?
Chicktracts
Published on Nov 3, 2014
"Vlog #88: He's dead now. But oh, what he started...
God bless you! - David W. Daniels"

Further evidence, of some of those behind the Occult Agenda, can be found on this thread regarding the work of the Illuminati: >>>> HERE <<<< More coming soon!
 

J-T

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I commend your patient and forbearing attitude, Sis. How sad that some native English speakers refuse to acknowledge others and demand everybody read the same outdated text that is difficult for most of us.
I had the priviledge of ministering to a man, from Saudi Arabia that was born into the Islamic religion, and witness the very moment of his new birth, when he was born again by grace through faith in Jesus Christ. To this very day, he is fearlessly on fire for The Lord, and he learns by reading the King James Bible. Would you agree that man should be commended for his faith in trusting God?
 

SoulWeaver

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I had the priviledge of ministering to a man, from Saudi Arabia that was born into the Islamic religion, and witness the very moment of his new birth, when he was born again by grace through faith in Jesus Christ. To this very day, he is fearlessly on fire for The Lord, and he learns by reading the King James Bible. Would you agree that man should be commended for his faith in trusting God?
Sure he is commendable. But there are people who don't speak English, and people who do but are simply not good with Old English.
 

Dino246

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Is that why you have a picture of a toy car as your profile pic?:unsure:Do you want to drive a real one when you grow up? :giggle:
Your words from post #82: "Moreover, you should have learned by now that low grade insults are only a facade to mask the fact that you know better".
 

J-T

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For those of you that are new to hearing about the serious issue of the Occult Agenda Against The Holy Bible - KJB 1611 take it to heart that our Sister, Gail Riplinger is a blessing, and know without any doubt that she is one of the single most slandered women on earth for taking a bold stand in defense of The Holy Bible. If you have been adversely affected by the slander, yet, you are a Born Again Christian, I admonish you in the Spirit of Love and in the Spirit of Truth to shake off the doubt that has been cast as a result of the tremendous amount of slander that has been so ungodly and ingrediously wrought against our beloved Sister in the faith, and give what she has shared in these audios a very close, and prayerful hearing. The Occult agenda against The Holy Bible is indeed very real and has led to a growing famine for the hearing of the Holy Words of the Lord, of which statistics have been reported that some 70% of professing Christians no longer believe that Jesus Christ is the only way for salvation, while 54% of Millenials are reported to have abandoned the faith altogether converted to practicing witchcraft; hence the Lukewarm Church and the Great Falling Away from the faith, as false prophets and false teachers are abounding, waxing worse and worse, to deceive the masses into bending the knee to Baal, and this is become reality in this dark world. Upon hearing all of the facts per the Bible changes, where they have added to and taken away from the words of God, you will become fully convinced of how this will all lead toward many taking the mark of the beast and to worship its image.

It is a great honor to present, our Sister, Gail Riplinger's audios.
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Whats MISSING in New Bibles
- Gail Riplinger

KJB 1611

Published on Mar 25, 2015

Errors in New Bibles
- Gail Riplinger
KJB 1611

Published on Mar 25, 2015
Further evidence, of some of those behind the Occult Agenda, can be found on this thread regarding the work of the Illuminati: >>>> HERE <<<< More coming soon!