God created man and woman. Where did transgenders come from?

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God created man and woman. Where did transgenders (not eunuchs) come from?
 
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So from what I’m reading on Wikipedia, which I know is an okay information source but I like using it regardless, it appears what you are wondering on is “Transsexual” and not the gender, because apparently nowadays people separate the “gender” and “sexual orientation” from each other, which I think is confusing and don’t agree with but back on point: Transgender is “Transitioning/Changing” what you identify with, as in thinking I don’t think I’m a woman anymore, so now I’ll live as a Transgender woman, thinking I’m a man or a Non-binary instead.

“Transsexual” from how I understand, is actually using medical procedures to change your actual sex, that is why I will call someone a man or a woman based on looks because I don’t support Transgender stuff, yes I know Gender Dysphoria exists, where you don’t feel like the sexuality you where born with, but I think treating people suffering from that medical condition and showing them God, they should hopefully not have to do the surgery to change their sex. I know God decides everything in the end, but if they can know, no matter what God is good and has good plans, it should give them hope through the pain. That’s what helps me anyway, I’m not Transgender, just a Asperger’s syndrome woman trying to follow God as best as I can ^_^

Transgender: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender
 
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@MessageOfTheCross , @SarahUmbreon
I mean people born with both male and female organs [I think it is called intersex]
Freaks, oddities a product of corruption. It causes confusion with the unbeliever.

If they become believers they will receive a incorruptible body in the new heavens and earth .
 
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@MessageOfTheCross , @SarahUmbreon
I mean people born with both male and female organs [I think it is called intersex]
Ah then that’s an entirely different thing. You see it’s really rare, from checking, it seems that basically the human population is only 0.018% intersex, so it’s not that common.

Intersex: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex


I found this article very helpful, in how Intersex relates to the Bible and how we as Christians should react/help: https://www.focusonthefamily.com/get-help/what-about-intersexuality/
 
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Freaks, oddities a product of corruption. It causes confusion with the unbeliever.

If they become believers they will receive a incorruptible body in the new heavens and earth .
From how I understand it from linking an article from a Christian website in this thread, these corruptions happen because we live in a fallen world.

I didn’t ask to be born with Aspergers, but here I am, and it very much affects my life and it’s hard for me to make friends/be social in real life.
 

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God created man and woman. Where did transgenders (not eunuchs) come from?
A mental disorder.

Transgender- transitioning to another gender. Genders are now so claimed to be 100+ different genders. Transgender often being a homosexual who wants to transition into the opposite sex while loving those opposite of their biological sex.

In 1973, the American Psychiatric Association (APA) asked all members attending its convention to vote on whether they believed homosexuality to be a mental disorder. 5,854 psychiatrists voted to remove homosexuality from the DSM, and 3,810 to retain it.

The APA then compromised, removing homosexuality from the DSM but replacing it, in effect, with "sexual orientation disturbance" for people "in conflict with" their sexual orientation. Not until 1987 did homosexuality completely fall out of the DSM.

The move had no debates between the 3810 who voted to retain it. Why? It wasn't science but political. https://www.hli.org/resources/apa-on-homosexuality/

You have two problems- gender dysphoria which is a very small percentage of people. The other is by nurture. So many cases are linked to abuse or influenced by popular pop stars, media, and childhood indoctrination by groups who target public schools.

In biology, we know you cannot change genders. They are set as male or female. Anything else is outside of reality. A state of unreality and those states are the exact reason why we have psychologists.
 
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Freaks, oddities a product of corruption. It causes confusion with the unbeliever.

If they become believers they will receive a incorruptible body in the new heavens and earth .
If God created man and woman, then the entire generation should be either man or woman. There should not be any intersex. If it is corruption, whose corruption?
 
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God created man and woman. Where did transgenders (not eunuchs) come from?
Technically it's physically impossible to change a biological gender because that would involve altering the DNA to modify chromosomes. As far as people know a gender cannot be changed once it is assigned to a person in fetal development.

So the idea of being truly transgender is actually impossible.

What people are most likely trying to describe is their "gender identity." Gender identity is just a social construct that exists only in the mind.

So being transgender is an imaginary thing because it is impossible to change a biological gender.
 

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Does mental infirmity have an origin? The laws here have allowed people to change their gender identity since the 80's.
Very open society in Germany. Even in the militärisch.
Hermaphrodites I don't know about in this community. What I have learned about the condition is they're typically frigid sexually because not either organ operates as it would if they were sexually normal.
 
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God created man and woman. Where did transgenders (not eunuchs) come from?
Here is the common definition of "Transgender";

An adjective denoting or relating to a person whose sense of personal identity and gender does not correspond with their birth gender.

So Transgender is a state of mind, or false "sense". This "sense" does not actually change the gender.

There are about a half dozen medical aberrations to definite gender, but they are categorized as sicknesses. They are atypical.

The Bible does not recognize a "transgender". Genesis 1:11-12 sets forth the law of "likeness". The seed decides the type, which is what medical science agrees on with gender at conception.

Under the Law of Moses, a person "cross-dressing" is stated as "an abomination to the Lord" (Deut.22:5). While the Laws of Moses is only given to Israel, they show the mind of God.

An operation that completely changed a person's gender would kill them. There are too many differences in the genders. Changing genitalia is no change of gender.
 

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Thought I would share one of the ways the lord talks.. to me. The same moment I came to this thread. The song started to play
"LIES" Keith Green"

It was it is nothing more then a lie from the enemy. Go back and listen to that song :) "if you believe them your faith just dies".
"his wicked lies".

He took what God made "man and woman" and tries to twist it. To even where "they will reject truth and believe the Lie"

This can be said for today "Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature.
Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.
 

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From how I understand it from linking an article from a Christian website in this thread, these corruptions happen because we live in a fallen world.

I didn’t ask to be born with Aspergers, but here I am, and it very much affects my life and it’s hard for me to make friends/be social in real life.
You are certainly social on this site and probably making friends too.
 
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You are certainly social on this site and probably making friends too.
Yeah I think I have made some friends/people I get along with ^_^

I just responded because I've seen people in a lot more worse condition than me, I would use to ride the "Special Needs" bus to school in High School, there was this one kid, that I'm pretty sure had retardation along with probably another disability, all he could do was say his name and he needed help to get anywhere basically, he could walk but he needed to be guided and helped, pretty sure if anyone saw him, they could easily call him a "Freak" or a "Oddity" cause I know people born with special needs, certainly didn't want them. I'm glad I am okay and love myself, but I definitely know there are people who hate themselves because of their mental/physical disability. I just believe Christians need to show love to everyone, no we don't bend to the ways of this fallen world, but it is true, God loves everyone.
 

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Yeah I think I have made some friends/people I get along with ^_^

I just responded because I've seen people in a lot more worse condition than me, I would use to ride the "Special Needs" bus to school in High School, there was this one kid, that I'm pretty sure had retardation along with probably another disability, all he could do was say his name and he needed help to get anywhere basically, he could walk but he needed to be guided and helped, pretty sure if anyone saw him, they could easily call him a "Freak" or a "Oddity" cause I know people born with special needs, certainly didn't want them. I'm glad I am okay and love myself, but I definitely know there are people who hate themselves because of their mental/physical disability. I just believe Christians need to show love to everyone, no we don't bend to the ways of this fallen world, but it is true, God loves everyone.
I didn't have to ride a 'Special Needs" bus to school, in fact, just about everyone walked to school but I was in speech therapy in grades 2 though 8 to learn how to talk properly. Got made fun of too a lot but after awhile I really didn't care anymore. Kids can be very insensitive. Christians absolutely need to show love to everyone but it is hard to show love to someone who has hurt you. I wasn't too swift with that turning the other cheek thing either.
 
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I didn't have to ride a 'Special Needs" bus to school, in fact, just about everyone walked to school but I was in speech therapy in grades 2 though 8 to learn how to talk properly. Got made fun of too a lot but after awhile I really didn't care anymore. Kids can be very insensitive. Christians absolutely need to show love to everyone but it is hard to show love to someone who has hurt you. I wasn't too swift with that turning the other cheek thing either.
Oh yeah I understand, we as humans make mistakes, I absolutely hated going to school, I did my work, it was dealing with other people. I remember coming home from middle school one day and telling mom: “School is hell!” and she got sooo pissed off, she told me to never say that again, but she was harsh because I had to go back, no matter what and I’m glad I did. Public school got me used to dealing with social situations, I didn’t talk to anyone but I learned, that’s for sure.

I still struggle treating people nice cause my emotions sometimes get the best of me, if I feel like I judged someone or get mad, I pray for repentance immediately, but sometimes reaching out to pray is something I struggle with cause I’m the type of person when I get mad or sad, I just want to stay mad or sad, and don’t want to be happy. I still have growing up to do, that’s for sure, lol. But I’m glad to have God and a strong network of family/family friends to rely on when I need help ^_^