If both parents of a child are not saved will that child (who is unclean and not holy) go in the Rapture?

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For the unbelieving husband is Sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is Sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy. 1 Corinthians 7:14
What is the destination of a child who dies prematurely in a home with parents that are not saved?
 

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Although I differ in some detail, for the intents of this thread I agree (so that we don't get sidetracked defending small bunkers). We then agree that whatever their state, they are Christians and Jews. A Christian is one who was born of the Holy Spirit, and a Jew is one who is born of the lineage of Jacob. The Christian is sanctified POSITIONALLY by the Work of Christ, and the Jew is the other Party of a Covenant made by God with an oath. Whatever their DISPOSITION is (their attitude, dilgence, faithfulness, slothfulness and/or sinfulness), they are special People before God because of Christ's Work and God's Oath. If they must pass through the Great Tribulation, then their children pass through with them ... or not?

That was the question at hand.
I know that was the question at hand. Mine was its answer at hand.
 

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Yes the woman is Israel, and the Child is Jesus, and the dragon Satan. That part of the prophecy was about Jesus being born on earth. It is a spiritual telling of what has already happened.
Revelation is a confluence of past episodes and future prophecy so as to derive the context of the whole and the end times.
What often happens is certain scriptures are taken out of context to make a studied point about any number of topics in Eschatology.
While the whole of Revelation is meant to be understood as a full on narrative of past events that make necessary the future ones.
 

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I thought he was a she all this time. Awkward.
Obviously removing the gender notation on our profiles beside our postings was intentional on someones part. One of those, guess and have fun, exercises. :ROFL: I've been referred to as sir. And that was face to face. AhhhhhhH! Yeah, I wish that was just a joke. :cautious:
 

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What is the destination of a child who dies prematurely in a home with parents that are not saved?
What happened to the children in the Exodus when their parents were punished for sin and were forbidden to go into the promised land? Did God punish the children for the sins of their parents?

Deuteronomy 1:39

39 Moreover your little ones, which ye said should be a prey, and your children, which in that day had no knowledge between good and evil, they shall go in thither, and unto them will I give it, and they shall possess it.
 
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I know that was the question at hand. Mine was its answer at hand.
OK. That could be true. But your "answer" in posting # 7 was a question. It puzzled me. But, as it was not addressed to anybody, I should back off.

Posting # 7
Why would I work so hard to imply or infer a child is doomed.
Go well.
 

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OK. That could be true. But your "answer" in posting # 7 was a question. It puzzled me. But, as it was not addressed to anybody, I should back off.
OK.

My question was answered in the same post 7 by the commentary I posted beneath the question. Making it not really a question but an answer.
Reposted:
Why would I work so hard to imply or infer a child is doomed.
Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers
(14) The unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife.--Any scruple which a Christian might have felt as to whether matrimonial union with an unbeliever would be defiling is here removed, and the purity of the former teaching justified. In contrast to that other union in which the connection is defiling (1Corinthians 6:16), the purity of the believing partner in this union, being a lawful one, as it were, entirely overweighs the impurity of the unbeliever, it being not a moral, but a kind of ceremonial impurity. The children of such marriages were considered to be Christian children; and the fruit being holy, so must we regard as holy the tree from which it springs. It must be remembered that the "sanctification" and "holiness" here spoken of is not that inward sanctification which springs from the action of the Holy Spirit in the individual heart, but that consecration which arises from being in the body of Christ, which is the Christian Church (Romans 9:16.)



Go well?
Look, if someone wants to worship a higher power that is omniscient and omnipotent and damns babies to Hell, who can stop them?
 
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OK.

My question was answered in the same post 7 by the commentary I posted beneath the question. Making it not really a question but an answer.
Reposted:
Why would I work so hard to imply or infer a child is doomed.
Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers
(14) The unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife.--Any scruple which a Christian might have felt as to whether matrimonial union with an unbeliever would be defiling is here removed, and the purity of the former teaching justified. In contrast to that other union in which the connection is defiling (1Corinthians 6:16), the purity of the believing partner in this union, being a lawful one, as it were, entirely overweighs the impurity of the unbeliever, it being not a moral, but a kind of ceremonial impurity. The children of such marriages were considered to be Christian children; and the fruit being holy, so must we regard as holy the tree from which it springs. It must be remembered that the "sanctification" and "holiness" here spoken of is not that inward sanctification which springs from the action of the Holy Spirit in the individual heart, but that consecration which arises from being in the body of Christ, which is the Christian Church (Romans 9:16.)



Go well?
Look, if someone wants to worship a higher power that is omniscient and omnipotent and damns babies to Hell, who can stop them?
I don't remember anybody saying anything about hell. The question was if they were Raptured based on their parent's positional sanctification or not.
 

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I don't remember anybody saying anything about hell. The question was if they were Raptured based on their parent's positional sanctification or not.
Did they need to? Reading the thread title I wouldn't think they'd have to say Hell when it is implied in the title.

There are those Christians who believe children can go to Hell btw. Even newborns.
 
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Deuteronomy 1:39

39 Moreover your little ones, which ye said should be a prey, and your children, which in that day had no knowledge between good and evil, they shall go in thither, and unto them will I give it, and they shall possess it.
What is the age of accountability that you have posted?
 
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What would be those particulars as relate to the rapture as taught by modern evangelicals?
I think I made that clear in another post on this thread.
But particularly, the secretly whisked away leaving all the non-believers bewildered as to where thousands and possibly millions of people disappeared to.
 

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I think I made that clear in another post on this thread.
But particularly, the secretly whisked away leaving all the non-believers bewildered as to where thousands and possibly millions of people disappeared to.
I watched the Left Behind movie years ago and they featured that story line. Passengers on planes vanished leaving just their clothing on the seats.
Huge "oops" moment for atheist I'd think.
 
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I watched the Left Behind movie years ago and they featured that story line. Passengers on planes vanished leaving just their clothing on the seats.
Huge "oops" moment for atheist I'd think.
Its not going to happen.
 
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Which part? The rapture of Christians or atheists realizing their oops moment if/when the rapture occurs?
The secret whisking away leaving a world of unbelievers bewildered, shocked and surprised. It isn't going to happen. Read Mathew 23 and 24. Jesus describes the end of the temple age, and then tell about his return.
 
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When Jesus returns, it will be with a shout and the trumpet of the archangels, all the world will see him coming in the clouds. This is not a secret whisking away. The dead will rise from the grave, and go up to meet him as he descends also those living will go up to meet him as he descends to the earth, making a an escort procession for the return of the king. The unbelievers will be "taken away" in judgement, as Jesus refers to the flood of Noah. Then his millennial reign on earth begins.
 

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What is the age of accountability that you have posted?
I'm not sure the exact age. Probably depends upon the person. But from scripture it is apparent that God does not punish children for the sins of their parents.

Also, people are only held accountable for what they know and understand. The scripture says that if there first be a willing mind it is accepted by what a man has and not what he has not. So some people, such as people with intellectual disabilities, may never reach the age of accountability. God is a just God and he is the judge.
 

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What is the destination of a child who dies prematurely in a home with parents that are not saved?
This is fostering the worst form of speculation.

First, all our days were numbered before one of them came to be (Psalm 139:16). Second, we are not judged according to the salvific status of our parents (Ezekiel 18:24). Third, God, the Judge, will do what is right (Genesis 18:25).

Teach your children the gospel. Teach your neighbour's children the gospel. Don't worry about things that are beyond your capacity to know.