Born again?

[Marksixteensixteen]

Jn 3:5
What is born again?
How do I become born again?

 

[Dino246]

Welcome to CC, Markss...

To be born again is to be born into eternal life. This happens through believing in the finished work of Jesus Christ (incarnation, atoning death, resurrection and ascension).

Obviously, that's a very simple explanation.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Welcome to cc
this is being born again

Paul

And you, being dead in trespasses and sins. He made alive

It is being made alive and as the last poster said being given eternal life

 

[Nehemiah6]

Jn 3:5
What is born again? How do I become born again?

He [Christ] came unto His own, and His own received Him not. But as many as received Him, to them gave He power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on His name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. (John 1:11-13)

The New Birth is supernatural, and occurs after the gift of the Holy Spirit is given to those who repent and believe on Christ.

 

[Marksixteensixteen]

The context says nothing about faith?
Context of Jn 3:5 “born again”

John1:26 John answered them, saying, I baptize with water: but there standeth one among you, whom ye know not; (John prepared the way by baptism)

John 2:6 And there were set there six waterpots of stone, after the manner of the purifying of the Jews, containing two or three firkins apiece. (Old covenant prefiguring of baptism, purification from sin)(His disciples believed because the ever Virgin mother of God interceded Jn 2:11)

John3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

John 3:22 After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized. 23 And John also was baptizing in Aenon near to Salim, because there was much water there: and they came, and were baptized.

John 4:4 When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John.

 

[Dino246]

The context says nothing about faith?
Context of Jn 3:5 “born again”

John1:26 John answered them, saying, I baptize with water: but there standeth one among you, whom ye know not; (John prepared the way by baptism)

John 2:6 And there were set there six waterpots of stone, after the manner of the purifying of the Jews, containing two or three firkins apiece. (Old covenant prefiguring of baptism, purification from sin)(His disciples believed because the ever Virgin mother of God interceded Jn 2:11)

John3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

John 3:22 After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized. 23 And John also was baptizing in Aenon near to Salim, because there was much water there: and they came, and were baptized.

John 4:4 When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John.

You didn't go far enough.

John 3:12-15 (Jesus speaking) "If I told you earthly things and you do not believe, how will you believe if I tell you heavenly things? No one has ascended into heaven, but He who descended from heaven: the Son of Man. As Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifte up; so that whoever believes will in Him have eternal life. For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have everlasting life."

Faith is believing firmly in that which you cannot see (see Hebrews 11:1).

 

[mailmandan]

The context says nothing about faith?
Context of Jn 3:5 “born again”

John1:26 John answered them, saying, I baptize with water: but there standeth one among you, whom ye know not; (John prepared the way by baptism)

John 2:6 And there were set there six waterpots of stone, after the manner of the purifying of the Jews, containing two or three firkins apiece. (Old covenant prefiguring of baptism, purification from sin)(His disciples believed because the ever Virgin mother of God interceded Jn 2:11)

John3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

John 3:22 After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized. 23 And John also was baptizing in Aenon near to Salim, because there was much water there: and they came, and were baptized.

John 4:4 When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John.

It sounds like you equate being born again with being water baptized. However, that assumption is unwarranted. John 3:14 - And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 15 that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. 18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who (is not water baptized? NO) does not believe is condemned already, because (he has not been water baptized? NO) he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

 

[Marksixteensixteen]

Yes I agree faith is necessary but it seems to refer to baptism? Water and the spirit?

 

[mailmandan]

To be "born again" is to be born from above or born of God. In regards to the word "water" in John 3:5, there are those who would argue that the natural sense of the passage parallels "water" with being born out of a mother’s womb (verse 4) and with "flesh" (verse 6). Simply stated in that case, Jesus told Nicodemus that in order to see the kingdom of God two births are necessary. The first is a physical, literal, "flesh" birth (by amniotic "water") and the second is Spirit.

There are also those who would argue that Jesus mentions "living water" in John 4:10, 14; 7:37-39 and in John 7:38-39, we read - "He who believes in Me, as the Scripture has said, out of his heart will flow rivers of living water. But this He spoke concerning the Spirit. The Holy Spirit is the source of living water and spiritual cleansing. If "water" is arbitrarily defined as baptism, then we could just as justifiably say, "Out of his heart will flow rivers of living baptism" in John 7:38. If this sounds ridiculous, it is no more so than the idea that water baptism is the source or the means of becoming born again.

Yet there are still others who would argue that "water" is used in the Bible as an emblem of the Word of God, and in such uses it is associated with cleansing or washing. (John 15:3; Ephesians 5:26) When we are born again, the Holy Spirit begets new life, divine life, so that we are said to become "partakers of the divine nature" (2 Peter 1:4). The new birth is brought to pass through "incorruptible seed, by the word of God, which lives and abides forever" (I Peter 1:23) and the Holy Spirit is the Agent who accomplishes the washing of regeneration. (Titus 3:5)

 

[seed_time_harvest]

To be born the first time Is when a person Is born physically from their mothers womb.


To be born again according to my Interpretation of what JESUS was saying Is to be born again Spiritually and the only one that can give a person a perfect Spirit IS GOD,BUT In order for a person to be born again of the SPIRIT they have to repent In TRUTH and GOD will have mercy on them and give them grace and create them new In CHRIST.
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John 6:63
King James Version

63It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

To be born the first time Is when a person Is born physically from their mothers womb.


To be born again according to my Interpretation of what JESUS was saying Is to be born again Spiritually and the only one that can give a person a perfect Spirit IS GOD,BUT In order for a person to be born again of the SPIRIT they have to repent In TRUTH and GOD will have mercy on them and give them grace and create them new In CHRIST.
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John 6:63
King James Version

63It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

IMO the first birth(physical)Is necessary before the person can be reborn.



Sidenote:If a person doesn’t have a physical body they can’t be born again.

 

[Nehemiah6]

Yes I agree faith is necessary but it seems to refer to baptism? Water and the spirit?

In this context water is a metaphor for the Word of God -- the Gospel. See 1 Peter 1:23-25 which shows that the incorruptible "seed" of the New Birth id the Gospel. It is called "clean water" in Ezekiel. Since the blood of Christ washes away sins, water baptism cannot do so.

 

[throughfaith]

I'm predicting you think a certain method is necessary to be born again , judging by your name? Lords navy ?

 

[Magenta]

(His disciples believed because the ever Virgin mother of God interceded Jn 2:11)

That is not what John 2:11 says, nor was Mary "ever virgin."

 

[Deuteronomy]

Jn 3:5
What is born again?
How do I become born again?

Hello Mark1616, here is a short book (70 pages) that seems like is was written just to answer your questions Best of all, it's free to download in either ePub or MOBI (Kindle format), or you can buy it in other formats too if you'd prefer.

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Something to not miss when you study this passage is John 3:9-10. There the Lord tells a confused Nicodemus (who was a leading Pharisee and "the teacher of Israel" of his day) that he certainly should have understood what was meant by "born again/born of water and the spirit" and why it was necessary for salvation. This tells us that we need to look at the Old Testament to see what Jesus was referring to in this case (and what Nicodemus had managed to miss .. see the short passage below from Ezekiel, for instance).

God bless you!

~Deut
p.s. - you can also find a number of short articles (some with videos) at this site: https://www.gotquestions.org/born-again.html

Ezekiel 36​

25 I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you will be clean; I will cleanse you from all your filthiness and from all your idols.​

26 Moreover, I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; and I will remove the heart of stone from your flesh and give you a heart of flesh.​

27 I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will be careful to observe My ordinances.​

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[Guojing]

Jn 3:5
What is born again?
How do I become born again?

You needed to be born again if you were part of Israel during the period of John 3.

Paul makes no mention of being born again in Romans to Philemon, for us in the Body of Christ.

 

[UnoiAmarah]

You needed to be born again if you were part of Israel during the period of John 3.

You have to learn your lineage. Nicodemus came to Jesus in the night. [See Job 24:14]

Born of the flesh, Born of the Spirit is referenced in two passages in the Torah.

However the lineage refers to the passage in Proverbs 23:25: Thy father and thy mother shall be glad, and she that bare thee shall rejoice.

Paul makes no mention of being born again in Romans to Philemon, for us in the Body of Christ.

Who did Jesus say would teach you all things? Paul?

 

[Guojing]

Who did Jesus say would teach you all things? Paul?

1 Corinthians 11:1 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.

Romans 11:13 13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office

Romans 2:16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.

 

[Deuteronomy]

You needed to be born again if you were part of Israel during the period of John 3. Paul makes no mention of being born again in Romans to Philemon, for us in the Body of Christ.

Hello Guojing, I've never read nor heard the argument that you are making (about being "born again"), so I have a couple of questions for you.

1) What do you believe that the Lord Jesus meant by the phrase "born again/born from above" in John 3 ​

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2) Why do you believe that an Israeli living at the time of Jesus needed to be "born again" to be saved, but the rest of us do not ​

Thanks!

~Deut
p.s. - as for the Apostle Paul not mentioning the new birth, while it may be true that the phrase itself ("born again") is not used by him, I believe that the concept is. Also, the Apostle John used a similar phrase in his Epistles, and the Apostle Peter used the phrase "born again" in his, so being "born again" hardly seems like Gospels only/1st Century Jews only Biblical terminology. Here are a few examples.

Ephesians 2​

4 But God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us,​

5 even when we were dead in our transgressions, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved).​

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2 Corinthians 5​

17 If anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.​

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Titus 3​

5 He saved us, not on the basis of deeds which we have done in righteousness, but according to His mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit.​

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1 Peter 1​

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His great mercy has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead.​

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1 John 4​

7 Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God.​

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[throughfaith]

Hello Guojing, I've never read nor heard the argument that you are making (about being "born again"), so I have a couple of questions for you.

1) What do you believe that the Lord Jesus meant by the phrase "born again/born from above" in John 3 ​

​

2) Why do you believe that an Israeli living at the time of Jesus needed to be "born again" to be saved, but the rest of us do not ​

Thanks!

~Deut
p.s. - as for the Apostle Paul not mentioning the new birth, while it may be true that the phrase itself ("born again") is not used by him, I believe that the concept is. Also, the Apostle John used a similar phrase in his Epistles, and the Apostle Peter used the phrase "born again" in his, so being "born again" hardly seems like Gospels only/1st Century Jews only Biblical terminology. Here are a few examples.

Ephesians 2​

4 But God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us,​

5 even when we were dead in our transgressions, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved).​

​

2 Corinthians 5​

17 If anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.​

​

Titus 3​

5 He saved us, not on the basis of deeds which we have done in righteousness, but according to His mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit.​

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1 Peter 1​

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His great mercy has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead.​

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1 John 4​

7 Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God.​

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' through the resurrection of Jesus Christ ,from the dead ' Shows that no one was born from above before the resurrection. I believe inductive reasoning is used to assume they were .