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Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours also! I don't know what it was like in your area, but the hoarders were out at the grocery here. I don't get the obsession with the TP. They keep this up I'm gonna have to start looking for some vintage Sears and Roebucks catalogues. 
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Hippolytus of Rome said that the Jews had been darkened in the eyes of their souls, “with a darkness utter and everlasting.” And declared that Jews were destined to be, “slaves to the nations, not for four hundred years as in Egypt, nor seventy as in Babylon, but always.”
John Chrysostom “Jews are inveterate murderers possessed by the Devil. Their debauchery and drunkenness gives them the manners of a pig… This is why I hate the Jews.”
Ambrose of Milan said, “The Jews are the most worthless of all men. They are lecherous, greedy, rapacious. They are perfidious murderers of Christ. They worship the Devil. Their religion is a sickness. The Jews are the odious assassins of Christ, and for killing God there is no expiation possible, no indulgence or pardon. Christians may never cease vengeance, and the Jew must live in servitude forever. God always hated the Jews. It is essential that all Christians hate them.”
Within these thoughts was born the Replacement Theology, the Jews get all the curses, the Christians get all the blessings. It's also where anti-Semitism grew, which gave us the Holocaust. Then we turn around and say Jews hate Christians, which is a blanket statement that isn't true, but they would have every right to after what they have suffered.
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Why would you post quotes from lost people who hate the Jews in response to this verse?
1Pe 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
1Pe 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
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Thats OT what scripture says
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22 “Therefore say to the house of Israel, ‘Thus says the Lord God: “I do not do this for your sake, O house of Israel, but for My holy name’s sake, which you have profaned among the nations wherever you went. 23 And I will sanctify My great name, which has been profaned among the nations, which you have profaned in their midst; and the nations shall know that I am the Lord,” says the Lord God, “when I am hallowed in you before their eyes. 24 For I will take you from among the nations, gather you out of all countries, and bring you into your own land. 25 Then I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you shall be clean; I will cleanse you from all your filthiness and from all your idols. 26 I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; I will take the heart of stone out of your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. 27 I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will keep My judgments and do them. 28 Then you shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; you shall be My people, and I will be your God. 29 I will deliver you from all your uncleannesses. I will call for the grain and multiply it, and bring no famine upon you. 30 And I will multiply the fruit of your trees and the increase of your fields, so that you need never again bear the reproach of famine among the nations. 31 Then you will remember your evil ways and your deeds that were not good; and you will [e]loathe yourselves in your own sight, for your iniquities and your abominations. 32 Not for your sake do I do this,” says the Lord God, “let it be known to you. Be ashamed and confounded for your own ways, O house of Israel!”
33 ‘Thus says the Lord God: “On the day that I cleanse you from all your iniquities, I will also enable you to dwell in the cities, and the ruins shall be rebuilt. 34 The desolate land shall be tilled instead of lying desolate in the sight of all who pass by. 35 So they will say, ‘This land that was desolate has become like the garden of Eden; and the wasted, desolate, and ruined cities are now fortified and inhabited.’ 36 Then the nations which are left all around you shall know that I, the Lord, have rebuilt the ruined places and planted what was desolate. I, the Lord, have spoken it, and I will do it
yep sorry, there is a future mission, not that Israel will do something, but God will do something through them
ez 36 :
22 “Therefore say to the house of Israel, ‘Thus says the Lord God: “I do not do this for your sake, O house of Israel, but for My holy name’s sake, which you have profaned among the nations wherever you went. 23 And I will sanctify My great name, which has been profaned among the nations, which you have profaned in their midst; and the nations shall know that I am the Lord,” says the Lord God, “when I am hallowed in you before their eyes. 24 For I will take you from among the nations, gather you out of all countries, and bring you into your own land. 25 Then I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you shall be clean; I will cleanse you from all your filthiness and from all your idols. 26 I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; I will take the heart of stone out of your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. 27 I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will keep My judgments and do them. 28 Then you shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; you shall be My people, and I will be your God. 29 I will deliver you from all your uncleannesses. I will call for the grain and multiply it, and bring no famine upon you. 30 And I will multiply the fruit of your trees and the increase of your fields, so that you need never again bear the reproach of famine among the nations. 31 Then you will remember your evil ways and your deeds that were not good; and you will [e]loathe yourselves in your own sight, for your iniquities and your abominations. 32 Not for your sake do I do this,” says the Lord God, “let it be known to you. Be ashamed and confounded for your own ways, O house of Israel!”
33 ‘Thus says the Lord God: “On the day that I cleanse you from all your iniquities, I will also enable you to dwell in the cities, and the ruins shall be rebuilt. 34 The desolate land shall be tilled instead of lying desolate in the sight of all who pass by. 35 So they will say, ‘This land that was desolate has become like the garden of Eden; and the wasted, desolate, and ruined cities are now fortified and inhabited.’ 36 Then the nations which are left all around you shall know that I, the Lord, have rebuilt the ruined places and planted what was desolate. I, the Lord, have spoken it, and I will do it
yep sorry, there is a future mission, not that Israel will do something, but God will do something through them
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gen 12
Get out of your country,
From your family
And from your father’s house,
To a land that I will show you.
gen 15: “To your descendants I have given this land, from the river of Egypt to the great river, the River Euphrates— 19 the Kenites, the Kenezzites, the Kadmonites, 20 the Hittites, the Perizzites, the Rephaim, 21 the Amorites, the Canaanites, the Girgashites, and the Jebusites.”
gen 17 Also I give to you and your descendants after you the land in[f] which you are a stranger, all the land of Canaan, as an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.”
and @KJV1611 wonders why I have no respect for him
Get out of your country,
From your family
And from your father’s house,
To a land that I will show you.
gen 15: “To your descendants I have given this land, from the river of Egypt to the great river, the River Euphrates— 19 the Kenites, the Kenezzites, the Kadmonites, 20 the Hittites, the Perizzites, the Rephaim, 21 the Amorites, the Canaanites, the Girgashites, and the Jebusites.”
gen 17 Also I give to you and your descendants after you the land in[f] which you are a stranger, all the land of Canaan, as an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.”
and @KJV1611 wonders why I have no respect for him
EG you are trying to prove that God gave land to Abraham, you should use verses that say that. Genesis 12:1 DOES NOT promise LAND to Abraham.
Gen 12:1 Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee:
Genesis 17 DOES say that and it is a perfect verse to use to prove your point.
Gen 17:8 And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.
This is the covenant God made with Abraham 430 years BEFORE the Old Covenant. Do you agree with this?
Gen 12:1 Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee:
Genesis 17 DOES say that and it is a perfect verse to use to prove your point.
Gen 17:8 And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.
This is the covenant God made with Abraham 430 years BEFORE the Old Covenant. Do you agree with this?
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Correct, and when he's done cleaning them, they love him, keep his commandments and keep his covenant. Those that refuse his offer for cleaning are the ones who hate God, don't keep his commandments and don't keep his covenant. I don't know how you can possibly disagree with this , it is the gospel.
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Believing Jews were the church in Old Tesatment times, nobody has replaced anybody. The idea that God is finished with Israel comes from Amos and several other scriptures related to taking the kingdom from the wicked Jews and giving it to the believing Jews.
Amo 8:2 (KJV) And he said, Amos, what seest thou? And I said, A basket of summer fruit. Then said the LORD unto me, The end is come upon my people of Israel; I will not again pass by them any more.
Amo 8:2 (KJV) And he said, Amos, what seest thou? And I said, A basket of summer fruit. Then said the LORD unto me, The end is come upon my people of Israel; I will not again pass by them any more.
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Like I said, because you have that axiom that it was always by grace thru faith, apart from the law in both OT and NT, you will naturally interpret the instructions God gave in the OT, differently from me.
Paul stated in Romans 3:21
But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
He is stating that it is revealed in the but now, but not revealed in time past.
So somehow, you are unable to put yourself in the shoes of someone who is living in time past, what he would have understood from God, what does it take to be the righteousness of God. (Luke 1:6)
Paul stated in Romans 3:21
But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
He is stating that it is revealed in the but now, but not revealed in time past.
So somehow, you are unable to put yourself in the shoes of someone who is living in time past, what he would have understood from God, what does it take to be the righteousness of God. (Luke 1:6)