Who Is Matt 24 Addressed To?

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Who are the elect of Matt 24v22,24,31 and Mark 13v20,22,27?

Some have foolishly stated, that the mention of “Judea” and “the Sabbath” in Matt 24v16,20, shows that Matt 24 was addressed to the Jews, and not Christians. They say this because Matt 24v30, is undoubtedly a coming in glory, and to admit that it was addressed to Christians would destroy the pretribulation advent theory, and so the argument was advanced that Matt 24 was not addressed to the Church. In Matt 24v20, Jesus gives specific warning signs to Christians who will be in Judea in the time of Antichrist. The fact that Matt 24v20, speaks of people who are willing to listen to Christ and willing to flee on the Sabbath, proves that it is not addressed to strict Jews, who would do neither. Only Christians would take heed to the words of Christ. Jews will certainly not obey a prophet they do not believe in.

Is Matthew 24 addressed to the Church of Christ, or the Jews?

Jesus gives the answer in Mark 13v37, “What I say unto you, I say unto all, Watch.” By giving this command to His apostles, Jesus instructs all His Church. The apostles were Israelites, but they were the apostles of the Church, and Jesus spoke to them in this capacity, as Christian believers. If Matt 24 is not to be looked upon as applicable to Christians, because it is “Jewish,” who is to decide what is Jewish and what is Christian? The Gospels are, with a few exceptions, a record of Christ’s ministry to Israelites, but they contain His vital teachings for His Church. The epistles of Peter, James and Hebrews are written to Jews, are we to set these aside? Certainly Not! They contain indispensable Christian truth. Was the New Covenant of Matt 26v28, just for the Jews, because it was only spoken to the apostles? Of course not! it is for every believer in Christ Jesus.

The refusal to recognise that the truths of Matt 24 were addressed to the Church, has driven some to utter folly in their reasoning, some have even looked upon the Lord's prayer and the Lord's Supper as “Jewish ordinances,” and not applicable to the Church of Christ. If Matt 24 was spoken to the apostles as Jews and not as Christians, how were they to know it? How shall we know what New Testament Scriptures apply to us? What use would these prophecies be to Jews who do not believe in Christ? It would be very strange if the earnest warnings of Christ in Matt 24, Mark 13, and Luke 17 and 21, were not addressed to Christians, but to Jews who have no faith in Christ. How can those who say that Matt 24 was written for Jews, use Matt 24v36,42 as a major text to prove that Christ may come at any moment for His Church? What kind of Scripture expositor uses a chapter which states that the coming of Christ is preceded by very clear signs, and warns against a secret second advent, to prove that there is a secret advent and rapture of the Church without those signs? Particularly when its advocates say that Matt 24 is addressed only to the Jews, and not to the Church. The pretribulation rapture theory has become widely accepted because Western Christians are unwilling to suffer persecution for Christ's sake. Heb 11v25. As someone has said, “It is an interesting fact that the pretribulation rapture theory did not arise out of a suffering Church. It has come out of a Western civilisation that has been the most comfortable and pleasant in the whole history of Christianity.”

Some have said that the Church was not founded until the day of Pentecost; however, this can be shown to be wrong by many passages of Scripture. The apostles were converted before Pentecost; their names were “written in heaven,” Luke 10v20; they were “clean,” John 15v3; and they belonged to God. John 15v3. Pentecost was not the time when they were saved, they were rejoicing in their salvation before this, Pentecost was the time when they received the promise of the Father to His children, the baptism in the Holy Spirit. Luke 24v49,52,53. Christ said the Law and the prophets were until John, the age of grace and truth started when Jesus started His ministry. Matt 11v13, Luke 16v16, John 1v17. It is nonsense to say that Matt 24 was not spoken to the Church, because the Church did not exist until the day of Pentecost; God gave many promises that belong to the Church to the Old Testament prophets, many centuries before the day of Pentecost.

The facts and context prove the elect of Matt 24 are Christians, and that Matt 24 is addressed to Christians.

a) The elect are Christians who are all over the world, and preaching the Gospel to all the world. Matt 24v14.

b) The elect are Christians who are hated, persecuted and dying for Christ all over the world. Matt 24v9,16-20, Mark 13v9-13.

c) The elect are Christians who are looking for Christ's return and are warned about false Christs. Matt 24v13-27, Luke 21v19,28.

d) The elect are Christians who are gathered by angels, for we know from Isaiah 65v15-21, that the Israelites, who are scattered throughout the world are gathered, not by angels, but by the Gentiles, who bring them to Jerusalem as an offering to God.

e) We read that Matt 25v1 begins with a “Then,” connecting it with Matt 24v44-51; Jesus said the subject is the kingdom of Heaven, not the kingdom of Israel. The parable of the ten virgins is a parable on the truth stated in Mtatt 24v42-51, the good servant who follows Jesus faithfully to the end of the great tribulation, and the evil servant who backslides into the world in those dark and evil days. The good servant and evil servant appear to be Christian leaders, whose work is to give correct truth at the end of the age. The good servant faithfully fulfils his task, whereas the evil servant has the incorrect idea that His Lord has delayed His coming, and as a result loses faith and lives an evil life, and is cut in sunder by His Lord. The (foolish) virgins appear to be Christians who again had wrong ideas about their Lord’s return, probably through wrong teaching, and had not prepared for the darkness of the last days. This is a very definite Christian truth, which is addressed to all of the Church of Christ.

f) Jesus warns us that Christians will have to persevere in prayer or they will faint and lose their faith in Him. Luke 18v1-8. Jesus speaks of an elect who are crying day and night for deliverance, and of a God that will avenge the sufferings of His elect at the hands of the wicked. This is certainly not the kind of language that we would expect if we are sure to miss the tribulation. Those who endure as far as the rapture are those who have prayed and not fainted, but many will backslide, and Jesus warns us, “and when the Son of Man cometh, shall He find faith on the earth?” Luke 17v34-36, 18v8, Matt 24v12,13, Rev 13v10, 16v15.

Paul states in Rom 11v5,6, that people have to believe in Jesus to receive the “election of grace.” Paul was heartbroken that most of Israel were blinded by unbelief, and in becoming enemies of Jesus and His Church, were “broken off” from their promises and election, Rom 9v31-33, 10v3,21, 11v7-10,20,28. However, in Rom 11v25,26,28, Paul states that the promises given to Abraham and his faithful seed will be fulfilled. The Jews are beloved for their forefather's sakes, and God will keep His covenant promises to faithful Jews. Exodus 3v14-16. God gave the Israelites His word, and godly Jews are loved and precious to Him; and when they are presented with a sign-attested Gospel they often respond to the truth in Jesus. God has always given the Jews time to consider His Word, and has invited them to reason with Him. God welcomes scarlet sinners, both Jews and Gentiles, with sweet forgiving reasonableness. Isaiah 1v18.

We see from Acts 10v1-48, N.B. v34,35, that, “In truth God shows no partiality. But in every nation whoever fears Him and works righteousness is accepted by Him.” Cornelius was justified on an Old Testament basis, and he was loved, acceptable, and precious to God, even before He heard the Gospel; and so are godly Jews. Paul states that there is now no difference between Jew and Greek, the elect consists of those who call on the Lord to save them. Rom 10v8-14, N.B. v13. Matt 1v21. In Christ, “There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.” Gal 3v28. No one can be among the New Testament “elect” unless they believe in Jesus as Saviour. John 6v37,45,53, 8v24,42, 1Thess 1v4, 2Peter 1v10, 1John 5v9-13, 1Peter 1v9-12.

Some have stated that Matt 24 and 1Thess 4v13 to 5v5 are different events, one speaking of a coming in glory and the other speaking of a secret rapture. However, though their aim was different, Matt 24 was given to show the signs of Christ's coming and the end of the age, and 1Thess 4v13 to 5v5 was given to comfort and challenge the relatives of departed believers, they are both speaking of the same event, they both use the same descriptive language, they speak of angelic powers, a great voice, a great trumpet, the clouds of heavenly glory, and the elect being gathered and caught up to meet their Lord. Sidlow Baxter states the following, on pages 219, 220 of his, “Explore the book,” that the parallels between 1Thess 4 and Matt 24, are irresistible to an honest mind. Both have angels, voice, trumpet, clouds, and gathered congregating saints. What kind of Bible interpretation can take exactly the same phrases and symbols, and teach a glorious public coming in Matt 24, and a secret coming in 1Thess 4v13-18? It proves that 1Thess 4v13-18 does not teach a secret rapture. Bible students must test doctrines by the Scriptures, even as the Bereans did. Acts 17v10-12.

It is absolutely clear that Matt 24 is addressed to the Church of Christ, and that there will be a post-tribulation advent of Christ and rapture of the Church.
 
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It is absolutely clear that Matt 24 is addressed to the Church of Christ, and that there will be a post-tribulation advent of Christ and rapture of the Church.[/QUOTE]
He is NOT telling them to flea on the Sabbath
24:20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
And this show that the Sabath to be kept after he died on the CROSS
 
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Matthew 15:24 tells you who Jesus was addressing in his first coming.
 

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Who are the elect of Matt 24v22,24,31 and Mark 13v20,22,27?

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e) We read that Matt 25v1 begins with a “Then,” connecting it with Matt 24v44-51; Jesus said the subject is the kingdom of Heaven, not the kingdom of Israel.
This phrase ^ "the kingdom OF THE heavenS" speaks of "the promised and prophesied earthly Millennial Kingdom" that will commence upon His "RETURN" to the earth, and is the SAME thing that each of
the following phrases ALSO refer to:



--"the age [SINGULAR] to come" (Matt12:32), that Jesus spoke of just prior to His speaking to His disciples about "the end [SINGULAR] of the age [SINGULAR]" (Matt13:24,30,39,40,49-50 and which they later BASED their Q of Him in 24:3) which will immediately precede it and lead up to it; [note that "age [SINGULAR]" always refers in connection with earth-time/-history]

--"the wedding FEAST/SUPPER" (on the earth; Matt25:10,1-13 and Matt22:8-14 and Rev19:9 [DISTINCT from v.7!])

--"the MEAL [G347]" (on the earth; Matt8:11 and its parallel; Lk12:36-37,38,40,42-44 "when he will RETURN FROM the wedding" THEN the MEAL [G347])

--[at] His "RETURN" to the earth (Lk12:36-37,38,40,42-44 "RETURN" and Lk19:12,15,17,19 "RETURN" when He will deal out responsibilities, like "have thou authority over 10 cities" and "be thou likewise over 5 cities" ["cities" are on the earth])

--the "BLESSED" (in 8-10 passages referring ALSO to this point in the chronology: Dan12:12 "BLESSED is he that waiteth, and cometh to the 1335 days," Rev16:14-16 "BLESSED" [Armageddon-timing], Matt24:44-47[46] "BLESSED" parallel with Lk12:36-37,38,40,42-22 "BLESSED"... "when he will RETURN FROM the wedding," Matt5:3,5 "BLESSED"... "shall inherit THE EARTH"..., [Mk11:10 "BLESSED"]... Rev19:9 "BLESSED... those [plural] having been INVITED to the wedding FEAST/SUPPER of the Lamb"... [distinct from the "Bride/Wife [SINGULAR]" of v.7!!], etc etc...)





[NONE of those passages are speaking of the context of our "Rapture [IN THE AIR]," which was revealed/disclosed and explained ELSEWHERE]


One of the KEYS to grasping the CHRONOLOGY issue is to note that "Matt24:4-8 / Mk13:5-8 / Lk21:8-11" are ALL speaking of [same] "the beginning of birth PANGS [PLURAL]" and that v.12 states, "BUT BEFORE ALL THESE" (then proceeds to lay out what must PRECEDE all of "the beginning of birth PANGS" in vv.12-24a/b (i.e. the 70ad events)...
But note that what follows Matt24:4-8's telling of them is FOLLOWED BY what comes AFTER THAT [AFTER THOSE] in that text);

Then... by also comparing Paul's use of the SINGULAR "birth PANG" in 1Th5:2-3 which is the INITIAL "birth PANG [SINGULAR]" which KICKS OFF the entire thing... (i.e. 1Th5:2-3 = Matt24:4/Mk13:5 "G5100 - tis - 'A CERTAIN ONE' ['a certain one' bringing deception]," which also parallels the "whose COMING [ARRIVAL/advent/presence/parousia] is after the working of Satan..." [2Th2:9a parallel Dan9:27a(26b)] i.e. "the man of sin"... which Paul discloses the SEQUENCE issues [surrounding such things] in 2Th2, which AGREES with the very SEQUENCE he had laid out in 1Th4 & 5 also!)
 

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He is NOT telling them to flea on the Sabbath
I certainly hope not! I prefer not to flea on any day of the week. I'm not that big on mosquitoes, bedbugs, or lice either. ;)
 

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^ EDIT to insert to my previous post (in red): "which also parallels the "whose COMING [ARRIVAL/advent/presence/parousia] is after the working of Satan..." [2Th2:9a parallel Dan9:27a(26b) "FOR ONE WEEK [7 yrs]"] i.e. "the man of sin"
 

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Is Matthew 24 addressed to the Church of Christ, or the Jews?

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The refusal to recognise that the truths of Matt 24 were addressed to the Church, has driven some to utter folly in their reasoning, some have even looked upon the Lord's prayer and the Lord's Supper as “Jewish ordinances,” and not applicable to the Church of Christ. If Matt 24 was spoken to the apostles as Jews and not as Christians, how were they to know it? How shall we know what New Testament Scriptures apply to us? What use would these prophecies be to Jews who do not believe in Christ? It would be very strange if the earnest warnings of Christ in Matt 24, Mark 13, and Luke 17 and 21, were not addressed to Christians, but to Jews who have no faith in Christ. How can those who say that Matt 24 was written for Jews, use Matt 24v36,42 as a major text to prove that Christ may come at any moment for His Church? What kind of Scripture expositor uses a chapter which states that the coming of Christ is preceded by very clear signs, and warns against a secret second advent, to prove that there is a secret advent and rapture of the Church without those signs? Particularly when its advocates say that Matt 24 is addressed only to the Jews, and not to the Church. The pretribulation rapture theory has become widely accepted because Western Christians are unwilling to suffer persecution for Christ's sake. Heb 11v25. As someone has said, “It is an interesting fact that the pretribulation rapture theory did not arise out of a suffering Church. It has come out of a Western civilisation that has been the most comfortable and pleasant in the whole history of Christianity.”

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The facts and context prove the elect of Matt 24 are Christians, and that Matt 24 is addressed to Christians.

a) The elect are Christians who are all over the world, and preaching the Gospel to all the world. Matt 24v14.

b) The elect are Christians who are hated, persecuted and dying for Christ all over the world. Matt 24v9,16-20, Mark 13v9-13.

c) The elect are Christians who are looking for Christ's return and are warned about false Christs. Matt 24v13-27, Luke 21v19,28.

d) The elect are Christians who are gathered by angels, for we know from Isaiah 65v15-21, that the Israelites, who are scattered throughout the world are gathered, not by angels, but by the Gentiles, who bring them to Jerusalem as an offering to God.

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Some have stated that Matt 24 and 1Thess 4v13 to 5v5 are different events, one speaking of a coming in glory and the other speaking of a secret rapture. However, though their aim was different, Matt 24 was given to show the signs of Christ's coming and the end of the age, and 1Thess 4v13 to 5v5 was given to comfort and challenge the relatives of departed believers, they are both speaking of the same event, they both use the same descriptive language, they speak of angelic powers, a great voice, a great trumpet, the clouds of heavenly glory, and the elect being gathered and caught up to meet their Lord. Sidlow Baxter states the following, on pages 219, 220 of his, “Explore the book,” that the parallels between 1Thess 4 and Matt 24, are irresistible to an honest mind. Both have angels, voice, trumpet, clouds, and gathered congregating saints. What kind of Bible interpretation can take exactly the same phrases and symbols, and teach a glorious public coming in Matt 24, and a secret coming in 1Thess 4v13-18? It proves that 1Thess 4v13-18 does not teach a secret rapture. Bible students must test doctrines by the Scriptures, even as the Bereans did. Acts 17v10-12.

It is absolutely clear that Matt 24 is addressed to the Church of Christ, and that there will be a post-tribulation advent of Christ and rapture of the Church.
Interesting thoughts. I don't disagree with the first part of your conclusion, but I would encourage you to consider the events around AD 70, when the Christians living in Judea did actually flee to the mountains and were spared from the destruction that befell the Jewish 'nation'. If this were the event about which Jesus warned, then that passage is history to Christians today, not specific instructions, and the second part of your conclusion needs more work.
 

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Interesting thoughts. I don't disagree with the first part of your conclusion, but I would encourage you to consider the events around AD 70, when the Christians living in Judea did actually flee to the mountains and were spared from the destruction that befell the Jewish 'nation'. If this were the event about which Jesus warned, then that passage is history to Christians today, not specific instructions, and the second part of your conclusion needs more work.
I'm just addressing this for the sake of the readers...

There are TWO DISTINCT "SEE-then-FLEEs"...

--ONE taking place BEFORE the beginning of birth pangs (that is, in the 70ad events; Lk21:23,20),

--whereas the OTHER taking place AFTER the beginning of birth pangs (Matt24:15-21, far-future to when written)...


and those ('BoBPs') don't BEGIN till the START of the future, specific, limited time-period commonly called "the [7-yr] tribulation period" (i.e. SEAL #1 + onward)... as I've laid out in past posts...
 

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^ this agrees ALSO with the SEQUENCE shown between Matt22:7 (70ad events) and Matt22:8's "THEN SAITH HE to his servants" (comp. with Rev1:1[7:3]'s wording... in the LATER 95ad writings of "[The] Revelation")
 

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I think in the very first place we need to see ALL scripture as from God to all man. We need a clear picture of God, as God is described in the Psalms.

We even get more from a secular book when we know something about the author. The viewpoint of the author of the bible is a God who is Holy and created us and the world.

The world was not new when God created the Hebrew race, and the God who spoke to the Hebrew race had us in mind, even as He spoke to them. It was because mankind had turned away from Him that God created a race to keep knowledge of God alive.

When God spoke to the Hebrews, God did not go out of character, or speak to them of anything that wasn't truth. So any time anyone turns away from God's word because the context was that God spoke to Israel or the Jews only, they are cutting themselves off from truth.
 

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I would clarify that it was directed at the Church ESTABLISHED by Christ. Not the Church of Christ which exists as one of the major groups of churches today. Just to clarify. Else, someone might get the idea that this Chapter was directed only at the Church of Christ, and not the Southern Baptists, and/or all the other church groups. :)
 

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I would clarify that it was directed at the Church ESTABLISHED by Christ. Not the Church of Christ which exists as one of the major groups of churches today. Just to clarify. Else, someone might get the idea that this Chapter was directed only at the Church of Christ, and not the Southern Baptists, and/or all the other church groups. :)
I've known a COC group that taught that they were the last true Christian fellowship and church left in the world. :eek:(n):poop:
 

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I certainly hope not! I prefer not to flea on any day of the week. I'm not that big on mosquitoes, bedbugs, or lice either. ;)
LOL, yes, a slight "keyboard moment" there!
 

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Mathew 24 is definitely referring to the " kingdom message " and to sabbath observers.
3¶And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

4¶And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.

5For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

6And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

7For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

8All these are the beginning of sorrows.

9¶Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

10And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.

11And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

12And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

13But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

14And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

(Mark 13:14–23; Luke 17:23, 24, 37; 21:20–24 )
15¶When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

16Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

17Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

18Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

19And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

20But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

21For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

22And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

23¶Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

24For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

25Behold, I have told you before.

26¶Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

27For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

28For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.

(Mark 13:24–27; Luke 21:25–28 )
29¶Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

31And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
 

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Interesting thoughts. I don't disagree with the first part of your conclusion, but I would encourage you to consider the events around AD 70, when the Christians living in Judea did actually flee to the mountains and were spared from the destruction that befell the Jewish 'nation'. If this were the event about which Jesus warned, then that passage is history to Christians today, not specific instructions, and the second part of your conclusion needs more work.
Matt 24 has a dual fulfilment, partial in 70 AD, but complete at the 2nd Coming.

Matt 24v15 was not totally fulfilled 70 AD, as no Roman soldier / leader sat in the Temple in Jerusalem claiming that he was God, they simply sacrificed on the ruins of the Temple, you can read Josephus's account of that in his writings.

The whole thrust of Matt 24 is about the time leading up to and including Our Lord's Second Coming as is clear from the apostle's question in v3: "the disciples came to Him privately, saying, "Tell us, when will these things be? And what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?"

Also note, he links Daniel 9v27 (the 70th Week), with His 2nd Coming and the "abomination of desolation" the cardinal sign to watch out for that will let His people (the elect) know that He will come in great power and glory three and a half years later. 2Thess 2v1-12.
 
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I would say it is written to jews specifically, but a message the church should heed also

we have the 70 ad fulfilment, where not one stone was left standing (see Josephus notes, this was fulfilled to the T, he states there was no that of the temple was even there, the only thing standing was the Roman fortress)

then we have the birth pangs, which apply to us all

then we have the sign of daniel, since daniel was written to the Jew, this sign would be for the Jew, but we can take heed also if we see it,

the Jew was told t run, as their would be great tribulation such as never seen, this is also known as the time of Jacob's trouble, from whom Jacob will be spared, (see also rev 13 where the woman runs to the hills, and the beast can not touch her) and how these events will cause Israel to repent and call out to God

finally we are told Christ will return, else no life would be spared, this marks the end of the age and the time of his coming, and the restoration of not only Israel but of all things,
 
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It is absolutely clear that Matt 24 is addressed to the Church of Christ, and that there will be a post-tribulation advent of Christ and rapture of the Church.
He is NOT telling them to flea on the Sabbath
24:20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
And this show that the Sabath to be kept after he died on the CROSS[/QUOTE]
Fleaing a tyrannical attack on the Sabbath would not violate the Sabbath, Jesus made that clear in his earlier teachings when he healed on the Sabbath, and when his men were picking grain on the Sabbath.
 
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Jesus, was talking to his disciples, giving them a direct warning.
 
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He is NOT telling them to flea on the Sabbath
24:20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
And this show that the Sabath to be kept after he died on the CROSS
Fleaing a tyrannical attack on the Sabbath would not violate the Sabbath, Jesus made that clear in his earlier teachings when he healed on the Sabbath, and when his men were picking grain on the Sabbath.[/QUOTE]

Revelation 16:12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
Revelation 16:13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs [come] out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
Revelation 16:14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, [which] go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
Revelation 16:15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed [is] he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame. Here GOD is tell them to hide their self till HIS indignation be overpast.
YESUAH ALSO tells US that the lost is gathered before the lost,
Matthew 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

This tells us that the wicked will be gathered first, He will destroy the wicked by the brightness of his Coming'
24:1 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty, and maketh it waste, and turneth it upside down, and scattereth abroad the inhabitants thereof.
24:2 And it shall be, as with the people, so with the priest; as with the servant, so with his master; as with the maid, so with her mistress; as with the buyer, so with the seller; as with the lender, so with the borrower; as with the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him.
24:3 The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken this word.
24:4 The earth mourneth [and] fadeth away, the world languisheth [and] fadeth away, the haughty people of the earth do languish.
24:5 The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant.
24:6 Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left. {the wicked are destroyed first}
Why would YESUAH COME AS THIEF, after the 6th plague, There is no rapture, the saints will go through plagues.
Isaiah 26:20 Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast.
Isaiah 26:21 For, behold, the LORD cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain.