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I think in the near future we will see much, much deceptions come in because in just 10 years much has become warped mentally and morally [ look at the 1990s very closely as there was way less of any kind of confusion ] .Again look at the 90s ,I realize many here were just children then ,but those that are older like the 30s or up to the 50s and on take a look at the changes today from back then in even peoples mindsets [ this is why I say more deceptions are coming ].This is not over yet and it will end up some will take the MARK and some will be those killed by Jesus when He returns in the skies like lightning , in Israel.That should not turn those seeking Jesus away anyway. The 'Day of the Lord' is coming beaware and for anyone saved or not. I am not setting a date .We are in crazy delutional times even now .For examples wholesome morals are getting far more eroded away as each month or season comes by.2 Timothy 3 is just one reference. John 14 to 16 another.People will call the truly good ones evil. [this is not to support any other stuff in the OP thread]. Just saying look at today . God does not say to give up truths to reach those unsaved .The Bible never says that. Be careful of the 'Emerging church movements' for one.
More like the Jews killed Him, and that they are now trying to lead to church into such deception that they buy into the lie of the Antichrist. All through a conspiracy through the growing apostle and prophet movement, which is being fostered on us by the Pharisee Jews.
I am not a member of this movement, but I have fallen under her condemnation all the same, and am seen by her as a lackey of the modern day Pharisees.
This is scary, very scary, that someone who believes in Jesus can end up believing such things.
I am not a member of this movement, but I have fallen under her condemnation all the same, and am seen by her as a lackey of the modern day Pharisees.
This is scary, very scary, that someone who believes in Jesus can end up believing such things.
You need to apply that same understanding to the church and body of Christ. You can not seperate even one member of God's body from the head, Christ. We are members one of another, and members of His body, flesh and bones. You can not seperate the head from the body nor the body from the head. Every member has receive God's perfect righteousness by faith through the imputation of God and is perfect in God's sight, being fully and freely justified by grace. All their sin has been judged on the cross through death and not a single believer can be judged ever again.
When you judge Christ's body you are judging Him because He is the head of the body, WE ARE MEMBERS OF HIS BODY, FLESH AND BONES (Eph 5:30). Stop judging the body of Christ, Christ is edifying His body and building it up in grace and knowledge of Himself through those that He has given to the church to preach and teach the word and doctrine. They are filled with His Spirit and they have been called to dispense the gospel and the word as the oracles of God. They are not perfect men but have been chosen and given to the church and they should be recognized and honored as such.
1Thes 5:9-13 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, 10 Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep , we should live together with him. 11 Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do . 12 And we beseech you, brethren, to know them which labour among you, and are over you in the Lord, and admonish you; 13 And to esteem them very highly in love for their work's sake. And be at peace among yourselves.
When you judge Christ's body you are judging Him because He is the head of the body, WE ARE MEMBERS OF HIS BODY, FLESH AND BONES (Eph 5:30). Stop judging the body of Christ, Christ is edifying His body and building it up in grace and knowledge of Himself through those that He has given to the church to preach and teach the word and doctrine. They are filled with His Spirit and they have been called to dispense the gospel and the word as the oracles of God. They are not perfect men but have been chosen and given to the church and they should be recognized and honored as such.
1Thes 5:9-13 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, 10 Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep , we should live together with him. 11 Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do . 12 And we beseech you, brethren, to know them which labour among you, and are over you in the Lord, and admonish you; 13 And to esteem them very highly in love for their work's sake. And be at peace among yourselves.
What is wrong with you? Jesus loves us, that is clear. But does He love all that we do? Or all that we think? Or even all that we say?
If Jesus judges His bride, that is up to Him. If you do not believe what I say is from Him, then just ignore it, that is your prerogative. But if you believe that He is happy with us, and how we worship Him and even represent Him to the world, you have another think coming.
Besides, what does this have to do with the thread in question?
If Jesus judges His bride, that is up to Him. If you do not believe what I say is from Him, then just ignore it, that is your prerogative. But if you believe that He is happy with us, and how we worship Him and even represent Him to the world, you have another think coming.
Besides, what does this have to do with the thread in question?
Yes, true
I don't know about you VW but to me the Bible is very clear on this subject
Not according to the covenant that I made with their forefathers when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not saith the Lord
For this is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel after those days saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind and write them on their hearts, and I will be to them a God and they shall be to me a people
And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother saying
Know the Lord
For ALL shall know me from the least to the greatest
Heb 8:9-11
Obviously not all the Jews are saved now, but at a time in the future all Jews will be saved as Paul plainly states
For I should not brethren that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceit; that blindness in part has happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in
And so ALL Israel shall be saved.
Rom 11:25&26
I will bring back my exiled people Israel; they will rebuild the ruined ciities and live in them
They will plant vinyards and drink wine
They will make gardens and eat their fruit
I will plant Israel in their own land
Never again to be uprooted
from the land I have given them
saysd the Lord your God
Amos 9:14&15
There are many prophecies of the Israelites returning to their own land, that is but one
Was it not God who brought them back to the land in 1948?
Could it have happened unless God willed it?
And how blessed will they eventually be?
This is what the Lord Almighty says. Many people and the inhabitants of many cities will yet come, and the inhabitants of one city will go to another and say
'Let us go at once to entreat the Lord and seek the Lord Almighty
I myself am going. And many nations and powerful nations will come to Jerusalem to seek the Lord Almighty and to entreat Him
This is what the Lord Almighty says
In those days ten men from all languages and nations will take firm hold of one Jew by the hem of his robe and say
Let us go with you, because we have heard that God is with you
Zech 8:20-23
I don't know about you VW but to me the Bible is very clear on this subject
Not according to the covenant that I made with their forefathers when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not saith the Lord
For this is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel after those days saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind and write them on their hearts, and I will be to them a God and they shall be to me a people
And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother saying
Know the Lord
For ALL shall know me from the least to the greatest
Heb 8:9-11
Obviously not all the Jews are saved now, but at a time in the future all Jews will be saved as Paul plainly states
For I should not brethren that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceit; that blindness in part has happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in
And so ALL Israel shall be saved.
Rom 11:25&26
I will bring back my exiled people Israel; they will rebuild the ruined ciities and live in them
They will plant vinyards and drink wine
They will make gardens and eat their fruit
I will plant Israel in their own land
Never again to be uprooted
from the land I have given them
saysd the Lord your God
Amos 9:14&15
There are many prophecies of the Israelites returning to their own land, that is but one
Was it not God who brought them back to the land in 1948?
Could it have happened unless God willed it?
And how blessed will they eventually be?
This is what the Lord Almighty says. Many people and the inhabitants of many cities will yet come, and the inhabitants of one city will go to another and say
'Let us go at once to entreat the Lord and seek the Lord Almighty
I myself am going. And many nations and powerful nations will come to Jerusalem to seek the Lord Almighty and to entreat Him
This is what the Lord Almighty says
In those days ten men from all languages and nations will take firm hold of one Jew by the hem of his robe and say
Let us go with you, because we have heard that God is with you
Zech 8:20-23
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of course not.
that's what The Pharisees teach their people.
i guess i didn't provide the link
Who Was Jesus?
that's what The Pharisees teach their people.
i guess i didn't provide the link
Who Was Jesus?
TRUE.
never said any such thing.
i notice you passed over this part of the OP:
never said that either.
i said people who give unconditional support to the nation of israel believing that the unbelieving Talmudic jews are the people of God (for you they are...not the church) are a partaker of their deeds, and the bible is clear they will partake of her plagues.
i have said you are part of the NAR movement: you told us that with your posts on how the offices work.
and i have said you are a false prophet: which you are.
ROTFLMHO!
what's scary and sad is that people who believe in Jesus are gullible enough to either listen to you the prophet, or careless enough to forget what you have done.
never said any such thing.
i notice you passed over this part of the OP:
never said that either.
i said people who give unconditional support to the nation of israel believing that the unbelieving Talmudic jews are the people of God (for you they are...not the church) are a partaker of their deeds, and the bible is clear they will partake of her plagues.
i have said you are part of the NAR movement: you told us that with your posts on how the offices work.
and i have said you are a false prophet: which you are.
ROTFLMHO!
what's scary and sad is that people who believe in Jesus are gullible enough to either listen to you the prophet, or careless enough to forget what you have done.
seriously? there are people who believe this?
what did you THINK the Pharisees believe and teach? did you think they had a chage of heart about "Yeshu"?
unsuspecting jewish people are taught this every day. ITS THE TALMUD: NOTHING TO DO WITH MOSES OR JESUS OR ABRAHAM OR ANY OF THE PATRIARCHS.
its Kabbalah, Zohar, Misnah, RABBINIC JUDAISM which is all mainstream Judaism today.
i thought i had posted the wiki Pharisees entry enough times.
please....for crying out loud find out what the Religion is which Jesus was so adament was cursed.
just research the Babylonian TALMUD. this is the now codiefied (written down) RELIGION OF THE ORAL TRADITIONS OF THE PHARISEES.
we're running a little short on time.
email me if you need links.
otherwise, better get busy, since you clearly thought Judaism was MOSES AND THE PROPHETS - it most assuredly is NOT.
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too many lies out in the world. I think i'll stick to learning God's truth. like you said. time is short, why waste it on what we already know is lies?
unless God wants me to do something about it, I'll keep learning about the Bible and reading Moses and the Prophets among other books of the Bible.
Most of the world is deceived, I'd rather learn how to do God's will and teach others to do the same, but if God tells me I need to learn about it I'll hit u up for the links
unless God wants me to do something about it, I'll keep learning about the Bible and reading Moses and the Prophets among other books of the Bible.
Most of the world is deceived, I'd rather learn how to do God's will and teach others to do the same, but if God tells me I need to learn about it I'll hit u up for the links
Mystery Babylon has nothing to do with Israel,and Israel will not achieve any world domination.
1Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
2For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
3Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
4And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south. 5And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee(Zechariah 14:1-5).
It is God's purpose to gather the entire world against Israel,all Gentile nations together against Israel,and then God will fight against all the Gentile nations and put them down.
So we see that it is the Gentile nations that come together as a power,not Israel having any power,and attacking Israel,in which God saves them,for they recognize Jesus as their Messiah then.
1And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.
2But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
3And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
4These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
5And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
6These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.
7And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them. 8And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified(Revelation 11:1-8).
God will send the Jews 2 witnesses to turn them to the truth that Jesus is their Messiah,and when the world attacks them,then Jesus will save them.
The Jews will not attain to any power,and is not using America as a base,and will come to the truth that Jesus is their Messiah.
1Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
2For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
3Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
4And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south. 5And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee(Zechariah 14:1-5).
It is God's purpose to gather the entire world against Israel,all Gentile nations together against Israel,and then God will fight against all the Gentile nations and put them down.
So we see that it is the Gentile nations that come together as a power,not Israel having any power,and attacking Israel,in which God saves them,for they recognize Jesus as their Messiah then.
1And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.
2But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
3And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
4These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
5And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
6These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.
7And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them. 8And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified(Revelation 11:1-8).
God will send the Jews 2 witnesses to turn them to the truth that Jesus is their Messiah,and when the world attacks them,then Jesus will save them.
The Jews will not attain to any power,and is not using America as a base,and will come to the truth that Jesus is their Messiah.
go back and re-read Revelation. its not that hard.
The Great City, ---Where the Lord was Crucified
passages identifying Mystery Babylon as the great city (Revelation 17:18; 18:10). The great city of Revelation is identified as the city spiritually called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified." (Revelation 11:8)
she's well on her way: thanks to USA and other who have believed the SCOFIELD DISPENSATIONAL DECEPTION, and have given her billions of dollars every year, vetoed efforts to prosecute her for WAR CRIMES, and make excuses for all her sins (which are piling up to heaven NOW).
she will achieve it FOR A SHORT SPACE...do you know who the wealthiest men the world are? ROTHSCHILDS (Edomite converts to Talmudism, just like the HERODS)
don't you know what's actually happening in the M.E.? all those "arab" nations falling like dominoes?
The Great City, ---Where the Lord was Crucified
passages identifying Mystery Babylon as the great city (Revelation 17:18; 18:10). The great city of Revelation is identified as the city spiritually called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified." (Revelation 11:8)
she's well on her way: thanks to USA and other who have believed the SCOFIELD DISPENSATIONAL DECEPTION, and have given her billions of dollars every year, vetoed efforts to prosecute her for WAR CRIMES, and make excuses for all her sins (which are piling up to heaven NOW).
she will achieve it FOR A SHORT SPACE...do you know who the wealthiest men the world are? ROTHSCHILDS (Edomite converts to Talmudism, just like the HERODS)
don't you know what's actually happening in the M.E.? all those "arab" nations falling like dominoes?
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that's right. its witchcraft.
here are some jewish sources:
savethemales.ca - The Kabbalah- The NWO's Satanic Bible
(makow is not a christian, but is honest about judaism)
Latest columns by Michael A. Hoffman II
(hoffman is a former jew, now christian, and is the world's foremost english scholar of the talmud and related texts)