Gee, that's odd, because I don't see any quotations where I have said anything of which you accuse me.
The Purpose of Speaking in Tongues
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This may have little or much to do with the topic of this thread, but I just want to say that I think God is getting ready to do some amazing things...And I'm looking forward to seeing him move even though i realize it may be to the sorrow of many.
I'm not happy about that last part, but I realized that it is going to happen along the way towards fulfilling God's promise that the earth shall be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea.
*small note* I wrote that yesterday and hesitated to post it because of the sad nature of its results for many...but then in church today pastor preached about how God is not going to pass by the evil any longer, and finished by saying it's actually something to rejoice about because we will see God doing some jaw-dropping things.
For those who know what it's like when God confirms his word, please rejoice with me. For those who don't... I recommend repentance and seeking God until you know what it's like to see him move on your behalf. Actually, I recommend repentance and seeking God until you know what it's like to see him move on your behalf for ALL. Either way, God is going to prove that he alone is the living God. Thank you Jesus.
Love in Jesus to the room,
Kelby
I'm not happy about that last part, but I realized that it is going to happen along the way towards fulfilling God's promise that the earth shall be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea.
*small note* I wrote that yesterday and hesitated to post it because of the sad nature of its results for many...but then in church today pastor preached about how God is not going to pass by the evil any longer, and finished by saying it's actually something to rejoice about because we will see God doing some jaw-dropping things.
For those who know what it's like when God confirms his word, please rejoice with me. For those who don't... I recommend repentance and seeking God until you know what it's like to see him move on your behalf. Actually, I recommend repentance and seeking God until you know what it's like to see him move on your behalf for ALL. Either way, God is going to prove that he alone is the living God. Thank you Jesus.
Love in Jesus to the room,
Kelby
just came out of seeking the Lord for about 6 days now and a few days ago I posted a thread about Dan 3. there are three things I sought the Lord for during prayer and fasting. 1. repentance/ revival the church needs both 2. Unity in the Body of Christ 3. God to remove unjust leadership in the State of CA and our nation.
Hope you are right, but I suppose before this will be, there will come a terrible time for all mankind.
Kelby, I haven't read much of what is written in these posts here, but you and I disagree regarding your statement, "And to put it simply, thank God that he's the only one who can give speaking in tongues to anyone."
Initially, I write this because I was reared around people who did this, and I have seen it faked time and time again, and errant people called it "tongues," believed it was "tongues," defined it as "tongues," practiced it as "tongues," and taught it as "tongues." And while I do not want to admit any more than that I have seen and heard "tongues" that originated from the satan, I have been there for this. And furthermore, there are godless religions on this earth which do "tongues." You can find these on the Internet.Having been around such for 58 of my years, my main response to such persons is pity with prayer for G_D's mercy for them.
Toungues were a sign that accompanied the message for unbelieving Jews .Some say that "speaking in tongues" did exist at one time (because it's written in the bible) but is not for today. ( ... ) But OK, let's give them the benefit of the doubt on that one.
Let's NOT argue whether or not speaking in tongues is for today. We can limit the discussion to the benefits of speaking in tongues DURING the times that the bible DOES allow speaking in tongues, since this is a Bible Discussion Forum and speaking in tongues was given by God to at least some according to the word of God, in the bible.
In other words, since the bible says that speaking in tongues was a gift of the Holy Ghost in the bible)...WHY was it given? WHAT does the bible say it accomplishes (while it is in operation)?
And to be clear about this...whether or not tongues ceased (or will cease) HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ITS PURPOSE DURING THE TIME OF ITS EXISTENCE. So please pay attention to when people are trying to get off topic. We're only looking at what "speaking in tongues" does accomplish, while it is functioning, as described in the BIBLE. What are the benefits? And let's be patient and thorough about it.
Love in Jesus,
Kelby
Everytime we see its a sign for a jew .
Mark 16
17And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
1 Corinthians 14:22
“Wherefore tongues are for a sign , not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe.”
no, and not going to be dragged into an argument, it is one of the signs of Holy Spirit indwelling the believer. Where we are now is pretty much Ephesians on.
Just some of the places mentioned, https://www.compellingtruth.org/praying-in-the-spirit.html
All I will add to this.
best wishes
Just some of the places mentioned, https://www.compellingtruth.org/praying-in-the-spirit.html
All I will add to this.
best wishes
But no verse says that's what they are for .Self edifying and building up of one's spirit...a Direct hot line to God.
Jews have always had 'signs 'accompanied with the message . Tongues is just that . Even when we see in Acts , the gentiles recieve the Holy Spirit ,its the Jews who are given the ' sign ' from the gentiles speaking in tongues, they know from this ' sign ' that God has moved to giving the Holy Spirit to gentiles. Its a sign to Peter and the rest of this transition we see in the Acts of the apostles. The only reason we have this overlooked in the scriptures is because of what goes on 'out there 'in Christendom, where we start to see a departure from scriptural evidence to ' experiential ' ' evidence. Then the bible is interpreted in light of this
It literally says its a sign . Jews require a sign .
It literally says its a sign . Jews require a sign .
Some say that "speaking in tongues" did exist at one time (because it's written in the bible) but is not for today. ( ... ) But OK, let's give them the benefit of the doubt on that one.
Let's NOT argue whether or not speaking in tongues is for today. We can limit the discussion to the benefits of speaking in tongues DURING the times that the bible DOES allow speaking in tongues, since this is a Bible Discussion Forum and speaking in tongues was given by God to at least some according to the word of God, in the bible.
In other words, since the bible says that speaking in tongues was a gift of the Holy Ghost in the bible)...WHY was it given? WHAT does the bible say it accomplishes (while it is in operation)?
And to be clear about this...whether or not tongues ceased (or will cease) HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ITS PURPOSE DURING THE TIME OF ITS EXISTENCE. So please pay attention to when people are trying to get off topic. We're only looking at what "speaking in tongues" does accomplish, while it is functioning, as described in the BIBLE. What are the benefits? And let's be patient and thorough about it.
Love in Jesus,
Kelby
A thread was done on this subject very recently, you can find it Here
maybe only LottRemove unjust leadership in California?
Who's gonna be left?
I have a problem with those who say the gifts aren't for today because they ended or we no longer need them.
1. They can't prove it with scripture, because it's not there. Nowhere.
2. They will twist 1 Corinthians 13:8-12 like a pretzel to get it to say so.
3. They will use 3-4th century writers to prove it ended, when they usually are condemning such people for being part of the Roman Catholic church for not knowing what they're talking about.
It's always a double standard.
1. They can't prove it with scripture, because it's not there. Nowhere.
2. They will twist 1 Corinthians 13:8-12 like a pretzel to get it to say so.
3. They will use 3-4th century writers to prove it ended, when they usually are condemning such people for being part of the Roman Catholic church for not knowing what they're talking about.
It's always a double standard.