Who are the NEPHILIM in Genesis 6

[iamsoandso]

This has been discussed at different times here, I even did a blog on it which can be found Here

Yep there's quite a bit more information that never makes it into these type threads because they end up in name calling,ridicule (ring of honor wrestling stuff,lol)... I notice your blog is from 2016 but for the most part many of these threads moved to group chats nowdays to exclude those being rude that way information can be shared and many of the things being stated in even this thread were resolved some time ago because of the change to group chats.

 

[CS1]

Of course . . . I believe that "christian" colleges are apostate. That's not being unchristian . . . I'm telling the Truth.

that is an opinion, for that statement to be true, one would have to have attended all of them. I do not think you attended the one I went to?

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

If I said that "Christian Forums" are unchristian....what does that make everyone on THIS forum my friend??????

Why would I have a problem with your opinion? I don't care if your opinion is different from mine. I'm secure enough within myself to know that others don't think like me. Come on . . .

 

[Major]

Why would I have a problem with your opinion? I don't care if your opinion is different from mine. I'm secure enough within myself to know that others don't think like me. Come on . . .

THAT is not the point my friend...AT ALL!

YOU were condeeming ALL Seminaries as unchristian. THAT was your original claim/opinion and I am saying that you are wrong and actually have no clue.

You are welcome to your opinion! We all have them. But to make a statement like you did is really ....well I better not say it because you would report me, but it is not very smart or well thought out.

I attended DTS and my friend.....there is not a more Christian founded Seminary in the world!

Why not go there yourself and visit?????

 

[Major]

that is an opinion, for that statement to be true, one would have to have attended all of them. I do not think you attended the one I went to?

Exactly my pont as well!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[iamsoandso]

THAT is not the point my friend...AT ALL!

YOU were condeeming ALL Seminaries as unchristian. THAT was your original claim/opinion and I am saying that you are wrong and actually have no clue.

You are welcome to your opinion! We all have them. But to make a statement like you did is really ....well I better not say it because you would report me, but it is not very smart or well thought out.

I attended DTS and my friend.....there is not a more Christian founded Seminary in the world!

Why not go there yourself and visit?????

Dallas theological seminary?

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

THAT is not the point my friend...AT ALL!

YOU were condeeming ALL Seminaries as unchristian. THAT was your original claim/opinion and I am saying that you are wrong and actually have no clue.

You are welcome to your opinion! We all have them. But to make a statement like you did is really ....well I better not say it because you would report me, but it is not very smart or well thought out.

I attended DTS and my friend.....there is not a more Christian founded Seminary in the world!

Why not go there yourself and visit?????

OH good grief. I would advise that people not assume they know the thoughts of men. I said that I would not attend any seminary because to date, I have yet to hear of one that actually teaches the Heart of the Bible. Until that occurs, all seminaries will remain in improper and unbalanced light. When I find a seminary that teaches the Truth, I will then carry a different opinion.

Consider me to be a Berean, or are you taking that away from me?
I consider myself as one who "tests the spirits," for there are many false prophets in the world (1 John 4:1).

Look . . . if you don't want to reflect or take heed of these above Scriptures . . . what can I do about that? But . . . there's no need to take me away from the Gospel of Jesus Christ and get me to think as you do. That would be taking a massive step backwards.

Nah . . . I'd never report anyone. We need to be "bigger" than that. I could care less if you think I'm stupid . . . that comment of yours is a reflection of what you think and believe . . . your words have nothing to do with me.

Let me know if you need help with anything. That said, I'm not interested in spinning around in this fairytale. I don't hang out with Santa, the Jolly Green Giant or little Bunnies. I will not continue down this path of belittling and berating me. Go find a mirror if you're intending to do that to me or anyone else . . . the mirror should be your starting point.

 

[Major]

OH good grief. I would advise that people not assume they know the thoughts of men. I said that I would not attend any seminary because to date, I have yet to hear of one that actually teaches the Heart of the Bible. Until that occurs, all seminaries will remain in improper and unbalanced light. When I find a seminary that teaches the Truth, I will then carry a different opinion.

Consider me to be a Berean, or are you taking that away from me?
I consider myself as one who "tests the spirits," for there are many false prophets in the world (1 John 4:1).

Look . . . if you don't want to reflect or take heed of these above Scriptures . . . what can I do about that? But . . . there's no need to take me away from the Gospel of Jesus Christ and get me to think as you do. That would be taking a massive step backwards.

Nah . . . I'd never report anyone. We need to be "bigger" than that. I could care less if you think I'm stupid . . . that comment of yours is a reflection of what you think and believe . . . your words have nothing to do with me.

Let me know if you need help with anything. That said, I'm not interested in spinning around in this fairytale. I don't hang out with Santa, the Jolly Green Giant or little Bunnies. I will not continue down this path of belittling and berating me. Go find a mirror if you're intending to do that to me or anyone else . . . the mirror should be your starting point.

My friend.......I am glad you are a Berean! Now rememeber my friend -- it was YOU who belitteled Christian Seminaries which in turn is the same as doing that to those of us who have attened them. I only gave back to you what YOU started.

You said..........
"I would not attend any seminary because to date, I have yet to hear of one that actually teaches the Heart of the Bible."

How many have YOU atteneded? How many have YOU visited??? How many have YOU read their mission statement???

I do not find that to be teasting any spirits at all. I find that to be just a personal opinion which seems like you must have had a bad experience somewhere with one or someone who came from a seminary.

Seminaries are exactly like colleges. Some are LIBERAL and some are CONSERVATIVE. It is up to the person to know what he is looking for before he attends a school that is not going to teach what he needs.

I can personally promise you that DTS (Dallas Theological Seminary) and Liberity University are Christ centered and Christ focused!

And I appreciate your asking me is you can help me with anything. Thank you!!!!

 

[Major]

Dallas theological seminary?

YES!

 

[iamsoandso]

YES!

That surprised me because from the OP through page 15 you seem to argue against the sons of God being angels and the nephilim being giants and DTS teaches that they (are) in all the things on the www
https://bible.org/seriespage/7-sons-god-and-daughters-men-genesis-61-8 https://voice.dts.edu/review/thomas-r-schreiner-1-2-peter-jude/ http://www.joegriffin.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/CR13-110.pdf ect. what made you disagree with them after you attended DTS?

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

My friend.......I am glad you are a Berean! Now rememeber my friend -- it was YOU who belitteled Christian Seminaries which in turn is the same as doing that to those of us who have attened them. I only gave back to you what YOU started.

You said..........
"I would not attend any seminary because to date, I have yet to hear of one that actually teaches the Heart of the Bible."

How many have YOU atteneded? How many have YOU visited??? How many have YOU read their mission statement???

I do not find that to be teasting any spirits at all. I find that to be just a personal opinion which seems like you must have had a bad experience somewhere with one or someone who came from a seminary.

Seminaries are exactly like colleges. Some are LIBERAL and some are CONSERVATIVE. It is up to the person to know what he is looking for before he attends a school that is not going to teach what he needs.

I can personally promise you that DTS (Dallas Theological Seminary) and Liberity University are Christ centered and Christ focused!

And I appreciate your asking me is you can help me with anything. Thank you!!!!

"That said, I'm not interested in spinning around in this fairytale. I don't hang out with Santa, the Jolly Green Giant or little Bunnies. I will not continue down this path of belittling and berating me. Go find a mirror if you're intending to do that to me or anyone else . . . the mirror should be your starting point. "

 

[Major]

"That said, I'm not interested in spinning around in this fairytale. I don't hang out with Santa, the Jolly Green Giant or little Bunnies. I will not continue down this path of belittling and berating me. Go find a mirror if you're intending to do that to me or anyone else . . . the mirror should be your starting point. "

Ezekiel 2:6 -
And thou, son of man, be not afraid of them, neither be afraid of their words, though briers and thorns [be] with thee, and thou dost dwell among scorpions: be not afraid of their words, nor be dismayed at their looks, though they [be] a rebellious house.

 

[Major]

That surprised me because from the OP through page 15 you seem to argue against the sons of God being angels and the nephilim being giants and DTS teaches that they (are) in all the things on the www
https://bible.org/seriespage/7-sons-god-and-daughters-men-genesis-61-8 https://voice.dts.edu/review/thomas-r-schreiner-1-2-peter-jude/ http://www.joegriffin.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/CR13-110.pdf ect. what made you disagree with them after you attended DTS?

Correct.

More indepth Bible study.

After leaveing DTS I did some post graduate sutudies at Liberty University and became involved in "Cults and Religions". in early 80's.
That work progressed into demonolgy and Angels and after reading Dr. HInson, there was an easy choice to make.

 

[iamsoandso]

Correct.

More indepth Bible study.

After leaveing DTS I did some post graduate sutudies at Liberty University and became involved in "Cults and Religions". in early 80's.
That work progressed into demonolgy and Angels and after reading Dr. HInson, there was an easy choice to make.

Your meaning L.U. in Virginia(Falwell Jr.)? And E.G.(Glenn) Hinson?

 

[Diakonos]

Yes, they did sin, as it was said however the sexual sin in context to Sodom and Gomorrah was the sin of man not the sin of angels.
in the same way, it was the sin of man that causes God to flood the earth not the sin of angels.

Again God did not spare disobedient angels, God will not spare unrepented men and women. One thing Jude did not mention is when were those angels held captive and as to why. It very well could have been when the Devil was cast out. What we see Jude saying is examples of what God judged

Angels, ancient worlds, sins of Sodom and Gomorrah and other nations and cites that did the SINS of those cites, not angels. You have misinterpreted

This kind of response isn't an argument; This is just a denial of my conclusion. If you want to systematically (effectively) refute my argument, you need to deconstruct these premises I have pointed out (with supporting verses). Let's start with the first one...(I really want to find some common ground with you):
1. Do you believe that Peter's and Jude's reference of angelic activity the same event? (angels sinned = angels abandoning their proper abode")? If not, demonstrate with Scripture the distinction between these 2 events.

 

[Diakonos]

2 Peter 2:2 is about false prophets and teachers... and their fabricated stories.

But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2 Many will follow their depraved conduct and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. 3 In their greed these teachers will exploit you with fabricated stories. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.

Yes, the main theme of this chapter is Deliverance from false teachers. And he breaks down his discussion into 3 sections:
(1) exposure of false teaching,
(2) examples of historic judgment (since they will be judged and dealt with)
(3) explanation of divine deliverance

 

[49]

I have no clue what............"What is with the 'it may be sos' then? ".......means!

You say you are a Bible literalist. Taking the Bible literal. If so, there would be no need for the 'it may be sos' you presented.

 

[49]

NO.

But God has not removed what my father gave me and that is to ignore those who post really sarcastic comments to begin with that attack the education of those who have worked to be acceptable to God who rightly divide the Word of God.

IF you had not posted such a comment then I would not have been forced to respond to it. THINK before posting!

Good grief fella, why so hostile?
Am done with you.

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

Ezekiel 2:6 -
And thou, son of man, be not afraid of them, neither be afraid of their words, though briers and thorns [be] with thee, and thou dost dwell among scorpions: be not afraid of their words, nor be dismayed at their looks, though they [be] a rebellious house.

Lol - Ok.

Thanks for the criticism. This is what is said will be done to the Remnant of Christ, so I appreciate the confirmation!

 

[Live4Him]

lol.

What did I miss?

Why all of the hostility?

Did someone leave some flowers on the wrong grave at the seminary...I mean cemetery (or do I?)?