Never be political, stay away from POLITICS, and NATIONALISM

[Jordan]

Then why pay Taxes?

Give to Casear what is Ceasars, so pay your taxes, even if corruption takes most of it. Even if they are stealing most of the countries assets with Covid payments to make citizens bankrupt and assets given to the EL8888.

Dont you know these things.

Besides as Christians we are suppose to live by faith as missionaries in FULL TIME SERVICE TO HIM.

 

[Runningman]

They are in bed with the world and therefore preach whatever comfortable doctrine is allowable, to promote nationalism and themselves. Forget Democrats and Republicans they are BOTH the same and run by the elite. The NWO is not Democrats and Republicans, Conservatives versus Liberals. thats all a con.

Elections are a con, prophecy is not. The Lord allows the perfidity as all are in the plot and PLAN TOGETHER.

Know prophecy and forget thinking this man or that woman is going to save you, your country, or your wealth ...RESET

Most churches are there to tickle your ears and increase the flocks self esteem or superiority over others who are supposedly less blessed. No country is righteous, no not one.

Hope that isnt too strong and clear for you Running Man.

Couldn't agree more. I have no sense of loyalty to any one other than God and my family. The whole system is corrupt.

 

[Jordan]

We maybe miscommunicating here. I agree with you. I don't trust media and do know that everything blasted out is propaganda, that three companies own all the media outlets including movies and tv shows, and music and radio and are in bed with the major social media out let's and control the narrative. However you and I are discussing right now unabated, and there are other means as well. I have been a "separatist" for a long time.
While I am a separatist I am not an isolationist for the sake of my neighbor. To love our neighbors we must work toward their good, in the gospel and in their lives, and yes politically where possible; as repulsive as that is.

Hi again blackpowder, where I might differ with you blackpowder, is censorship.

Internet censorship is coming as it supposedly contains false information that the government doesnt agree with. With no contact and distancing our social networks have been almost totally stopped or watched over or reported.

But you mentioned slanted media ocverage so we are on the same page

OCS Onward Christian Soldiers

 

[Jordan]

This is to an extent true. The vast majority of churches are seeker friendly.
My church is not. We are very traditional and our pastor is quite active in seeking out those who left during this covid scam, and then we will get back to evangelism.

A few churches are the exception..... and you also obviously are...... TLBAKY going

Oh boy... the Lord BLess and keep you

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Excellent quote from Paul in his time, as he made it for a while before they made him compromise, and captured him and killed all the other apostles. But the truth beyond politics went on.

Thanks for the excuse verse... much appreciated. This keeps the church flocks in obedience and control.

Strange Daniel and Jesus didnt say that......

If you follow the Lord, you will sufer persecution from governments

If you want part time play time service, you can be comfortable except in the presense of the Lord for not obeying. Choose.

forgive me for thinking you actually had faith in God

if you want to be angry and not be a light which the world looks at you and sees your great faith. Then I do NT know how to help you

we have a conspiracy theorist in my church also, he knows how I feel about it but I show him grace. Inspite of my smh everything he complains,

 

[Jordan]

Do you believe, everything your government tells you, or everything the media tells you, or do you pray and ask the Lord and discern
from real searches.

In this way you can answer your own questions ?

 

[OrphanedRepublican]

The greatest sin IMO of the church system is that they want power over their congregations. They want it for themselves, so they convince their flocks that 'God' favors their local nationalistic government or leader. The church and state join together and it gives false security to the mislead flocks.



They say they believe in democracy where the majority either gather together to get conned by party leaders, and their superiors who control both and all parties. Like most church systems the aim is to elevate their mislead flocks to increase their self esteem of superiority over others. And it works in most cases, and then they are fleeced and lead away from JESUS.

How sad.

Stay away from nationalistic pride, the worship of riches and things, and politics and poliicians who promise you blessings for your so called votes

While I agree in general, there is still just one problem. People look to the churches for the moral stance on political issues. Our founding in the United States in inextricably linked to God and God's protection of our basic liberty and self governance which is eroding astonishingly fast of late.

The churches owe a duty to represent God's judgments as pertaining to our societies. To some extent they have. But, the flocks have not only fallen away from churches (for good reason) but also simply not been called to spiritual life by God himself. To wit, the decay of society, such that evil will come to its fulness in which God's plan proceeds as he's taught us for millennia.

We have to "ride this out" as companions in tribulation and always hope and trust in the Lord.

 

[Jordan]

While I agree in general, there is still just one problem. People look to the churches for the moral stance on political issues. Our founding in the United States in inextricably linked to God and God's protection of our basic liberty and self governance which is eroding astonishingly fast of late.

The churches owe a duty to represent God's judgments as pertaining to our societies. To some extent they have. But, the flocks have not only fallen away from churches (for good reason) but also simply not been called to spiritual life by God himself. To wit, the decay of society, such that evil will come to its fulness in which God's plan proceeds as he's taught us for millennia.

We have to "ride this out" as companions in tribulation and always hope and trust in the Lord.

In theory Yes, in true life NO...... every time a moral people have voted for PEACE, leaders declare a SURGE in a WAR, or a censorship of rights. This last one is an absolutely perfect model, and long planned in the open, model, from the World Forum into giving their exact timetable.

Why because they know the Lord gave them this particular time to have complete insane control as the ultimate BAD EXAMPLE.

 

[Mem]

Was Paul a religious or political prisoner?

 

[SophieT]

forgive me for thinking you actually had faith in God

if you want to be angry and not be a light which the world looks at you and sees your great faith. Then I do NT know how to help you

we have a conspiracy theorist in my church also, he knows how I feel about it but I show him grace. Inspite of my smh everything he complains,

while I agree with some of what the op is ranting talking about, people who are somewhat 'unbalanced' in their views, often search for another platform from which to vent

this is usually more obvious when the poster is relatively new. another chest thumper it would seem

take this for example:

Why because they know the Lord gave them this particular time to have complete insane control as the ultimate BAD EXAMPLE.

leaves me going 'whaaaaa?'

can't wait for the rejoinder

 

[Blade]

Lets toss out some numbers.. there are what over 30 million Churches in the world. You used "they" six times "most" twice. In your own town/city/neighborhood how many Churches did you go to and speak with pray with those preachers? In truth the only one you can speak about is yourself. It is nothing more than speculation.

Praise God you believe you should never be in politics. In Congress alone there are 535. Some of them love the lord Jesus Christ with all their heart. I myself would rather have a believe in there vs some worldly non believer. Not guessing here .. I know the Father would like that also.

 

[Nehemiah6]

Stay away from nationalistic pride, the worship of riches and things, and politics and politicians who promise you blessings for your so called votes

There was a time when a vote meant something, but that is no longer the case. After the massive election fraud in America, and the major betrayal of all citizens by ALL POLITICIANS and leaders worldwide, voting in the so-called free world is finished. It will merely be a farce.

A small cabal of evil people connected with Davos and the World Economic Forum has taken control of world events through the bogus COVID pandemic, and they are bound and determined to enslave the world as they see fit. The bogus vaccines are a part of this agenda.

But there is little or no resistance to this major power grab. This is a part of the Great Reset (the New World Order) which will open the way for the Antichrist to take control. This may sound pessimistic but it is the present reality. If you do not believe this just look around and see how everyone has been subjugated to those useless masks.

 

[Jordan]

while I agree with some of what the op is ranting talking about, people who are somewhat 'unbalanced' in their views, often search for another platform from which to vent

this is usually more obvious when the poster is relatively new. another chest thumper it would seem

take this for example:



leaves me going 'whaaaaa?'

can't wait for the rejoinder

 

[Jordan]

Please write some objective comment rather than a subjective one, so I can discern if you are a Christian.

Being new is not a crime,
Discussing is not venting
Not thumping my chest politically or nationalistically, should also not be a valid condemnation

Please rewrite your post, and I might answer you, if its an honourable one where you want an answer, and can answer back my questions.

Thanks

 

[SophieT]

Please write some objective comment rather than a subjective one, so I can discern if you are a Christian.

Being new is not a crime,
Discussing is not venting
Not thumping my chest politically or nationalistically, should also not be a valid condemnation

Please rewrite your post, and I might answer you, if its an honourable one where you want an answer, and can answer back my questions.

Thanks

you need to quote whoever it is you are posting to

seems it might be me, however, I stand by what I said. you are bullying your way in here and it won't go over very well

right. being new is not a crime, but coming in like you just bought the place and are going to set about bringing it up to par...according to your own definition...illustrates a huge ego IMO. I don't need an answer from you. you have already told us who you are.

I would watch out saying who you think is or is not a Christian. I believe it is against the TOS to tell someone they are not saved or not a Christian.

Thankfully, people who think they have the right to judge other Christians, are not in charge. Not here, and not in the Lamb's Book of Life either.

 

[NotmebutHim]

 

[SophieT]

oh say....have any popcorn to spare?

 

[Jordan]

you need to quote whoever it is you are posting to

seems it might be me, however, I stand by what I said. you are bullying your way in here and it won't go over very well

right. being new is not a crime, but coming in like you just bought the place and are going to set about bringing it up to par...according to your own definition...illustrates a huge ego IMO. I don't need an answer from you. you have already told us who you are.

I would watch out saying who you think is or is not a Christian. I believe it is against the TOS to tell someone they are not saved or not a Christian.

Thankfully, people who think they have the right to judge other Christians, are not in charge. Not here, and not in the Lamb's Book of Life either.

I said be objective rather than subjective.

When I asked 000000 if he or she was a Christian ? I accepted his or her clear answer

(SEE TRINITY thread for I say Jesus is God)

TOS said.... heresy is saying the TRINITY is untrue. I say it is true. Whats wrong with that ?

Here I am objectively saying politics is not a worthy support for Chr

Was Paul a religious or political prisoner?

BOTH..start a new THREAD on the topic. Ill answer from my point of view if allowed

 

[SophieT]

I said be objective rather than subjective.

so all your opinionizing is objective in your opinion? you are not running the show

multiple 0's states he is unsure of his spiritual status, yet he refers to 'my god'

what is your discernment on that one? hmmmm?

I know what I think but we'll see

tata

 

[DeanM]