Contradicting almost everything you have said since joining this site about wanting to wake millions of minds with scientific theories.We don't find squat unless we look for God through the Heart.
Contradicting almost everything you have said since joining this site about wanting to wake millions of minds with scientific theories.We don't find squat unless we look for God through the Heart.
Contradicting almost everything you have said since joining this site about wanting to wake millions of minds with scientific theories.
Flaming swords aren’t illusions. You’re inventing things. The Bible is not intended to inspire fantasy.
How do you do it?You are not telling me how you guard a Tree of Life.
Maybe. The Bible only records one episode of angelic rebellion. The one when Lucifer gathered 1/3 of all angels to join in his rebellion against God.Is there something preventing one of the cherubim from going dark and becoming the beast?
Why is this important? Judaism doesn't even understand the OT.Does it strike anyone odd that Judaism doesn't acknowledge satan like we do?
I don't. Cherubim do, with flaming swords, as the Bible tells you.You are not telling me how you guard a Tree of Life.
Maybe. The Bible only records one episode of angelic rebellion. The one when Lucifer gathered 1/3 of all angels to join in his rebellion against God.
Why is this important? Judaism doesn't even understand the OT.
Isaiah 14:12 (KJV) How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!I'm asking at what point did lucifer become satan? It sure seems like somewhere around the end of the OT. Didn't someone say that satan was a cherub?
Isaiah 14:12 (KJV) How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
PJ, are you new in the faith? Have you been wrapped up in the occult previously?
I think you're overthinking it.Is satan one of the placed cherubim that hide the Tree of Life?
Genesis 3:24 says, “He drove out the man, and at the east of the garden of Eden he placed the cherubim and a flaming sword that turned every way to guard the way to the tree of life.”
"flaming sword" (God's Righteous Word) is guarding the goal of the test, Life
The cherubim hide Life (from carnal minds), so God's Righteous Word is the way to find it.
- The Jews were given Law of the flesh to find Life via Righteousness
- The Christians were given Law of the heart to find Life via Righteousness
sin in the Garden
They spiritually died, became a dead free will spirit.
God was starting the test of this reality by not letting them eat from the Tree of Life (Christ)..everlasting life.
Human spirit = your perception of reality using either fallen Free Will or righteous Free Will
The test is the meaning of life ..opening the door ..accessing God/Everlasting Life
The lie of the tempter, that we wouldn't die, is why we are here. he represented death which equates separation from God. The tempter's lie is what leads to the illusions that disguise the spiritual. That's why Jesus said He was The Truth and The Way.
Truth is ignoring the illusions (lies) and allowing God in our lives (Love).
I think this reality allows those that want to ignore God to find any excuse they want.
Does it strike you odd, as well, that Judaism does not acknowledge Jesus Christ like we do?Does it strike anyone odd that Judaism doesn't acknowledge satan like we do?
I think you're overthinking it.
We are here because Eve believed a lie and did not believe or trust God. Else, she would not have eaten.
The tree of life is forbidden to men specifically so that he can't lift his hand up and take of the fruit and eat and live forever.
Genesis 3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
23 Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.
24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.
I saw free will mentioned in this post. Don't know what that has to do with anything, other than it's a pernicious false doctrine.
The Bible doesn't specify when. But when Adam and the woman were created, Satan was there, tempting the woman. Obviously, he had already rebelled.I'm asking at what point did lucifer become satan?
"End of the OT"? Seriously? The last book of the OT was written about 400 BC. Satan was IN the Garden deceiving the woman. That's found in the FIRST book of the Bible, Genesis.It sure seems like somewhere around the end of the OT. Didn't someone say that satan was a cherub?
The Garden of Eden was giving us the meaning of Life.
Right, shoot the guy trying to decode the Garden.[/QUOTE[]
What do you mean by "trying to decode the Garden"? Where do you get the notion that there is a code to decode?
Ever heard of a community of 2?"weaken the nations!" ..how was there a community of people during the Garden?
Why do you there even was a community of people during (in) the Garden?
You are looking in all the wrong places.Can satan deceive because he had the ability/free will as a cherub? Are there still good cherubim just doing their job, hiding the Tree of Life, without looking for worship?
The Tree of Life isn't available to any of us. It was in the Garden, and will become available to us in the New Jerusalem.
Rev 22
God was preventing a free pass back into Heaven. He was also starting this test we are in.