Is death hiding everlasting Life from carnal minds?
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It seems that you are rather confused about this matter. No. Satan was NOT one of the cherubim (holy angels). And the tree of life and the Paradise of God are now in Heaven.
But Satan knew that the wages of sin are death, so he tried to deceive Eve into sinning. And she caused Adam to sin (but he was still fully responsible for his disobedience). God allowed sin, evil, and death to enter into the world because He had a plan of redemption which would supersede creation and the Fall.
There is no such thing as a "dead freewill spirit" but perhaps what you mean is that all humans are spiritually dead when they are born, therefore all need to be born again. And this is true. Jesus said "You MUST be born again".
But Satan knew that the wages of sin are death, so he tried to deceive Eve into sinning. And she caused Adam to sin (but he was still fully responsible for his disobedience). God allowed sin, evil, and death to enter into the world because He had a plan of redemption which would supersede creation and the Fall.
There is no such thing as a "dead freewill spirit" but perhaps what you mean is that all humans are spiritually dead when they are born, therefore all need to be born again. And this is true. Jesus said "You MUST be born again".
Ezekiel 28:16-17
By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.
17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.
Covering cherub = obstructing presence
sounds like an illusion to me
By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.
17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.
Covering cherub = obstructing presence
sounds like an illusion to me
Does each town have it's own fallen angle (cherub) causing the illusion?
12 Then he said to me, "Do not be afraid, Daniel, for from the first day that you set your heart on understanding this and on humbling yourself before your God, your words were heard, and I have come in response to your words.
13 "But the prince of the kingdom of Persia was withstanding me for twenty-one days; then behold, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me, for I had been left there with the kings of Persia.
—Daniel 10:12–13, NIV
12 Then he said to me, "Do not be afraid, Daniel, for from the first day that you set your heart on understanding this and on humbling yourself before your God, your words were heard, and I have come in response to your words.
13 "But the prince of the kingdom of Persia was withstanding me for twenty-one days; then behold, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me, for I had been left there with the kings of Persia.
—Daniel 10:12–13, NIV
The Bible is clear that no one has an excuse for not recognizing God as Creator and being thankful to Him, from Rom 1:19-21.
From that, those who do respond accordingly, God is "not far from any of us", per Acts 17:26-27
26 From one man he made all the nations, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he marked out their appointed times in history and the boundaries of their lands.
27 God did this so that they would seek him and perhaps reach out for him and find him, though he is not far from any one of us.
No one is "prevented from going to hell". Everyone who will be cast into the lake of fire did so by their own decisions. They didn't accept the free gift.
From that, those who do respond accordingly, God is "not far from any of us", per Acts 17:26-27
26 From one man he made all the nations, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he marked out their appointed times in history and the boundaries of their lands.
27 God did this so that they would seek him and perhaps reach out for him and find him, though he is not far from any one of us.
No one is "prevented from going to hell". Everyone who will be cast into the lake of fire did so by their own decisions. They didn't accept the free gift.
Could you explain how you think a person is saved and going to heaven?
Thanks.
Are you not able to answer my question?
As to your question, mankind is FREE to accept or reject the gospel. And God has always known who will and who won't.
That's why.
Now, on to my question that you didn't answer.
Thanks.
Thanks.
Are you not able to answer my question?
As to your question, mankind is FREE to accept or reject the gospel. And God has always known who will and who won't.
That's why.
Now, on to my question that you didn't answer.
Thanks.