Liars Are Born That Way

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Jul 29, 2021
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Wow guys, as a liar and a prostitute myself i understand it this way, we can't change the bodily nature because sin took effect primarily on that area, but we still got the soul and the spirit, which aligned with the Holy Spirit of YHWH can lead us to avoiding sin and wrongdoings thereafter...Thus the body will perish anyway, but the soul & spirit will have a place of its own, right? I mean, i will always prefer lying and practicing lasciviousness but prudence and leaning on the Spirit may keep me away from it, to guide me to the better ways of The Great God, something like that.
 

Aidan1

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#24
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It's difficult at times to find a Christian with integrity. When a critical thinker
points out that some of God's ways are unreasonable; the average Christian
typically circles the wagons, i.e. they become defensive and judgmental;
deceitfully concealing the unspeakable truth that they too have sometimes
entertained the very same opinions.


Try answering the seven questions listed below with a straight up YES or a
NO sans excuses, explanations, apologetics, sermons, and/or canned
responses. If your answers are too personal, then it's okay to remain silent,
but keeping in mind that one day you may be required to stand before God
and give an answer for yourself openly and honestly rather than secretly.


1» Was there ever a time when you felt that God should've stepped in to
prevent the Serpent from tempting Eve?


2» Was there ever a time when you resented God's control over your life?

3» Was there ever a time when you were dissatisfied with Hades and/or the
Lake Of Fire? In other words: was there a time when you felt those
punishments go too far, i.e. they're over-kill; too extreme.


4» God knew in advance that He would regret creating humankind, and that
He would be drowning most of it in a global deluge; yet went ahead and
created people anyway. Has there ever been a time when you felt there was
something sick and twisted about God for doing that?


5» Was there ever a time when you felt that some of God's actions were
unreasonable, unfair, inhumane, selfish, cruel, and/or the work of a mad
man?


6» Was there ever a time when you wished God didn't exist?

7» Was there ever a time when you regarded God as an enemy rather than
a friend?


The questions themselves don't really matter all that much. What matters
most is whether you answer them honestly; because in order to establish a
productive rapport with God, people have to be transparent rather than
secretive.


Heb 4:13 . . Nothing in all creation is hidden from God's sight. Everything
is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of Him to whom we must give
account.


Rev 1:13-15 . . Among the lamp stands was someone like a son of man;
dressed in a robe reaching down to his feet and with a golden sash around
his chest . . . and his eyes were like blazing fire.
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#25
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It's difficult at times to find a Christian with integrity. When a critical thinker
points out that some of God's ways are unreasonable; the average Christian
typically circles the wagons, i.e. they become defensive and judgmental;
deceitfully concealing the unspeakable truth that they too have sometimes
entertained the very same opinions.

Try answering the seven questions listed below with a straight up YES or a
NO sans excuses, explanations, apologetics, sermons, and/or canned
responses. If your answers are too personal, then it's okay to remain silent,
but keeping in mind that one day you may be required to stand before God
and give an answer for yourself openly and honestly rather than secretly.

1» Was there ever a time when you felt that God should've stepped in to
prevent the Serpent from tempting Eve?

2» Was there ever a time when you resented God's control over your life?

3» Was there ever a time when you were dissatisfied with Hades and/or the
Lake Of Fire? In other words: was there a time when you felt those
punishments go too far, i.e. they're over-kill; too extreme.

4» God knew in advance that He would regret creating humankind, and that
He would be drowning most of it in a global deluge; yet went ahead and
created people anyway. Has there ever been a time when you felt there was
something sick and twisted about God for doing that?

5» Was there ever a time when you felt that some of God's actions were
unreasonable, unfair, inhumane, selfish, cruel, and/or the work of a mad
man?

6» Was there ever a time when you wished God didn't exist?

7» Was there ever a time when you regarded God as an enemy rather than
a friend?

The questions themselves don't really matter all that much. What matters
most is whether you answer them honestly; because in order to establish a
productive rapport with God, people have to be transparent rather than
secretive.

Heb 4:13 . . Nothing in all creation is hidden from God's sight. Everything
is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of Him to whom we must give
account.

Rev 1:13-15 . . Among the lamp stands was someone like a son of man;
dressed in a robe reaching down to his feet and with a golden sash around
his chest . . . and his eyes were like blazing fire.
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I understand your train of thought but find error in some assessments. It’s not that people are stupid but what some choose to blindly believe sets them up for misunderstanding scripture. We all agree King David had the gift of prophecy. That doesn’t mean everything written by him was prophetic and infallible. The Psalms are songs. Songs are written and performed to encapsulate thoughts and emotions from within the artist and communicate them through music and verse. When doing that the artist uses imagery, relatability and exaggeration. As far as being a liar from birth, we all have capacity for sin. Most habits and behaviours are taught or learned, not inherent.

In direct response to this post, fear/reverence to God is the beginning of wisdom. Anybody who challenges the logic of God is clearly too egocentric to desire singularity in the Body of Christ. God is a patient Father. He isn’t the irrational parent who, when questioned, barks, “Because I said so!” If questioned He will answer in a way that teaches and breeds confidence that He is in control of the big picture..
 

Mofastus

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#26
I actually look for content whether someone is sharing something correct or incorrect .

Im not sure that being worthy of the gospel has anything to do with whether someone else agrees with punctuations one uses or perfect spelling , rather than telling the truth and admitting when we have something wrong and letting scripture correct us.

but I suppose we each have things we find most important
of opinions given to brow beat another into conforming to that opinion given, is manipulative dictation to control others thoughts and opinions to their own. I enjoy your posts and effort you put into them to share your love of God with others. Thank you:cool:
 

Webers.Home

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#27
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A forgiven liar will continue to be dishonest because they were born that
way. What is there to be done about that?

Well; I think we can be fairly certain that dishonesty neither exists nor is
practiced in Heaven's society; which is a curious thing because the Bible
says that every man is dishonest; so the question is; How does anybody at
all make the cut? I mean; if people were dishonest down here, then would
they not continue to be dishonest up there? And what about CarlosLSNN's
preference for lasciviousness?

Rev 21:8 . .The sexually immoral and all liars-- their place will be in the
fiery lake of burning sulfur.

God has devised a way to rid people of themselves by means of a special
circumcision.

Col 2:11-12 . . In him you were also circumcised, in the putting off of the
sinful nature-- not with a circumcision done by the hands of men but with
the circumcision done by Christ --having been buried with him in baptism
and raised with him through your faith in the power of God, who raised him
from the dead.

In a nutshell: although believing liars typically continue to be dishonest
down here, they don't take that proclivity with them when they pass on;
instead, the special circumcision makes it possible for them to part company
with their unacceptable tendencies and they go into eternity completely free
of human nature's weaknesses.
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Lucy-Pevensie

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#28
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The seven-point quiz requires a straight up YES or NO answer to each
question minus excuses, explanations, apologetics, sermons, and/or
canned responses. Post No.9 fails to comply with the instructions.
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Are you a lawyer?:unsure: