It’s certainly not my box.
But it definitely qualifies as heresy to say that Jesus is not God.
Emmanuel= GOD WITH US.
You've got cheek in assuming that you can say what is right or wrong for everyone.
It’s certainly not my box.
But it definitely qualifies as heresy to say that Jesus is not God.
Emmanuel= GOD WITH US.
Chapter 1
God
אֱלֹהִ֑ים (’ĕ·lō·hîm)
Noun - masculine plural
Strong's Hebrew 430: 1) (plural) 1a) rulers, judges 1b) divine ones 1c) angels 1d) gods 2) (plural intensive-singular meaning) 2a) god, goddess 2b) godlike one 2c) works or special possessions of God 2d) the (true) God 2e) God
Chapter 2
the LORD
יְהוָ֤ה (Yah·weh)
Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's Hebrew 3068: Jehovah = 'the existing One' 1) the proper name of the one true God 1a) unpronounced except with the vowel pointings of H0136
God
אֱלֹהִים֙ (’ĕ·lō·hîm)
Noun - masculine plural
Strong's Hebrew 430: 1) (plural) 1a) rulers, judges 1b) divine ones 1c) angels 1d) gods 2) (plural intensive-singular meaning) 2a) god, goddess 2b) godlike one 2c) works or special possessions of God 2d) the (true) God 2e) God
Why if there is no difference between Yahweh (Translated Lord) and God (translated elohim) do they show separation? From what I have deduced it’s because there is a distinction.
I’m curious, when do you think the Word took human form?Glad you recognize that Jesus is God the Creator:
Colossians 1:15-18
New King James Version
15 He is (A)the image of the invisible God, (B)the firstborn over all creation. 16 For (C)by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or (D)dominions or [a]principalities or powers. All things were created (E)through Him and for Him. 17 (F)And He is before all things, and in Him (G)all things consist. 18 And (H)He is the head of the body, the church, who is the beginning, (I)the firstborn from the dead, that in all things He may have the preeminence.
Scripture calls angels sons of God. But they were not conceived within a woman by the Holy Spirit of God and then birthed into the world for the purpose of fulfilling hundreds of prophesies concerning them and giving their life as a ransom for many so that those who believe by grace through faith may be reconciled to God. One third of the angels rebelled against God and followed Satan.Why can’t Christ be not Jehovah. Here is what I’m saying. Theos means god. We call Jehovah Theos. It is a name. John didn’t say Jesus is Jehovah. He said Jesus is a theos, not Theos. There is just too much evidence that they are separate. It is the church hammering monotheism into Christianity. There is one Self Existent God, Jehovah, Theos. Every other heavenly being is elohim or theos, gods by definition. We are the intellectual property of Jehovah. He created us with His Son our Lord. Let us make man in Our image and after Our likeness. Angels are also elohim and theos. They just aren’t the Son of Jehovah.
Jesus claimed He said and did everything for our benefit. A person having more than one title does make them separate individuals, but rather is indicative of separate functions and/or relationships with others. You have left the Holy Spirit of God out of your math equation. If you have carefully examined the many many verses given to support saying Jesus is God, why would you contest it? Jesus shared in God's glory before He came to earth. God does not share His glory. Jesus is said to be many things which Scripture explicitly ascribes solely to God, and the first chapter of John makes clear they are one and the same, just as Jesus said they were.Ok, that thread is not much different than this one. I still don’t know why anyone argues about this point. It should be abundantly obvious. If Jesus is Jehovah then why is He in two places, praying to Himself? It’s not a theological debate, it’s a math problem. 1+1=2. In the beginning there was two, Jehovah and the Logos both are divine (got it right this time). The Father and the Son, two. Never did I claim that Christ existed only from His human birth. He existed separate with the Father as individuals, like the Bible says. What would really clear up this literary disaster is if He was never named Theos. In Greek. Then every time the word pops up it doesn’t confuse people.
Counselling is expensive in the uk. I tried but can't afford itGod and Jesus are my anchor.
Thank you. I have given up on Church and see a counselor as often as I can afford it. Much peace. Gwen
I don't know why this is but I do not have any kind of problem with the people who go to my church.God and Jesus are my anchor.
Thank you. I have given up on Church and see a counselor as often as I can afford it. Much peace. Gwen
I don't know why this is but I do not have any kind of problem with the people who go to my church.
Church people can be judgmental, I suppose...
But if you are living a life that is pleasing to the Lord you don't have to fear the judgment of church people very much.
I will pray for you that you will find a good church home and get plugged in.
After all, it is written,
Heb 10:24, And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:
Heb 10:25, Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
I was ignorant when I came here. I wanted to study scripture calmly and in love and never dreamed that denominational Christians would lash out at me with such vehemence. There has been enough of that in my life and that is put away. There are hateful things that could be said about any group I've ever encountered. It feels awful to put people on ignore because what they say is offensive because someday they might say something of value. Some shout what they know because that is the way they learned it from the pulpit. Some of us have experienced so much hate and violence that Suicide "for me" once seemed the only choice. I'm not there now. I plead the blood of Jesus the Christ as my covering.
Perhaps I am not tough enough to remain here?
Hi @Katia,Thank you. Much to my astonishment, Portland, where I live has more Strip Clubs per capita than anywhere in America. Churches die on the vine here. I have been attending the Mormon Church to take communion and pray, but they just can not let it alone and constantly pressure me to get re Baptized and all that. It got really tiresome. I don't have a car and doubt that I'll get one. I've got an eye exam coming up to see if I can keep my License.
I am a rigid introvert and it is hard to get out of my shell. Go ahead, pray. I hope that will work out.
Gwen
They judge x 1000. Nobody admits. But if u accidentally heard it. The stuff people say is shockingI don't know why this is but I do not have any kind of problem with the people who go to my church.
Church people can be judgmental, I suppose...
But if you are living a life that is pleasing to the Lord you don't have to fear the judgment of church people very much.
I will pray for you that you will find a good church home and get plugged in.
After all, it is written,
Heb 10:24, And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:
Heb 10:25, Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.