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Glad you recognize that Jesus is God the Creator:
Colossians 1:15-18
New King James Version
15 He is (A)the image of the invisible God, (B)the firstborn over all creation. 16 For (C)by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or (D)dominions or [a]principalities or powers. All things were created (E)through Him and for Him. 17 (F)And He is before all things, and in Him (G)all things consist. 18 And (H)He is the head of the body, the church, who is the beginning, (I)the firstborn from the dead, that in all things He may have the preeminence.
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@Katia ,
I'm so sorry that life has not been kind and loving to you.
I feel.your confusion about the upheaval your life has become without good nurturing.
I'm speaking from the things I've read you've written.
Changing who we are outside doesn't calm the storm inside.
Sometimes things we do,we cannot come back from but God sees the heart.
You are searching for peace, I can see in the multiple religions you've studied or partnered with a desire to be found and validated.
Please note that we are created in the image of God and we are his only creation that is.
You will never have answers nor peace until you wholey accept God the Father,Jesus the Son and our Saviour and the Holy Spirit our comforter,teacher and guide!
Here at cc you will only find condemnation and judgment and I'm so sorry for that.
I think a true believer psychologist or counselor would cause you less stress.
Just as you are seeking he is seeking you also for he said I stand at the door and knock if any open I will come in.......
May you find that path to a place of peace and comfort with Jesus who is God!
I'm so sorry that life has not been kind and loving to you.
I feel.your confusion about the upheaval your life has become without good nurturing.
I'm speaking from the things I've read you've written.
Changing who we are outside doesn't calm the storm inside.
Sometimes things we do,we cannot come back from but God sees the heart.
You are searching for peace, I can see in the multiple religions you've studied or partnered with a desire to be found and validated.
Please note that we are created in the image of God and we are his only creation that is.
You will never have answers nor peace until you wholey accept God the Father,Jesus the Son and our Saviour and the Holy Spirit our comforter,teacher and guide!
Here at cc you will only find condemnation and judgment and I'm so sorry for that.
I think a true believer psychologist or counselor would cause you less stress.
Just as you are seeking he is seeking you also for he said I stand at the door and knock if any open I will come in.......
May you find that path to a place of peace and comfort with Jesus who is God!
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Scripture calls angels sons of God. But they were not conceived within a woman by the Holy Spirit of God and then birthed into the world for the purpose of fulfilling hundreds of prophesies concerning them and giving their life as a ransom for many so that those who believe by grace through faith may be reconciled to God. One third of the angels rebelled against God and followed Satan.
Nor is it said of them that they possess “All the fullness of the Godhead.” The Bible does not say they created everything, or that they sustain everything, or that everything was made by and for them. They did not carry out God's redemptive plan for humanity with the shedding of their blood for the payment of sin.
Jesus claimed He said and did everything for our benefit. A person having more than one title does make them separate individuals, but rather is indicative of separate functions and/or relationships with others. You have left the Holy Spirit of God out of your math equation. If you have carefully examined the many many verses given to support saying Jesus is God, why would you contest it? Jesus shared in God's glory before He came to earth. God does not share His glory. Jesus is said to be many things which Scripture explicitly ascribes solely to God, and the first chapter of John makes clear they are one and the same, just as Jesus said they were.
Hungry... many people struggle with this concept, and I have some understanding of the confusion around it. Why labor over it? Be still and allow God's Word to speak to you, laying aside your preconceived ideas as much as possible. Take a good look at the verses given in the previously linked thread. God may be no respecter of persons, but I think you are a pretty decent person and I would hate to see you lose your membership here because as has been already stated, denying the doctrine of the Divinity of Christ is the number one theological reason for being banned. One last thing to consider: Jesus said that if people did not know Who He was, they would die in their sins. I started this post to you this morning and see it still sitting here LOL. Toodles for now
Nor is it said of them that they possess “All the fullness of the Godhead.” The Bible does not say they created everything, or that they sustain everything, or that everything was made by and for them. They did not carry out God's redemptive plan for humanity with the shedding of their blood for the payment of sin.
Jesus claimed He said and did everything for our benefit. A person having more than one title does make them separate individuals, but rather is indicative of separate functions and/or relationships with others. You have left the Holy Spirit of God out of your math equation. If you have carefully examined the many many verses given to support saying Jesus is God, why would you contest it? Jesus shared in God's glory before He came to earth. God does not share His glory. Jesus is said to be many things which Scripture explicitly ascribes solely to God, and the first chapter of John makes clear they are one and the same, just as Jesus said they were.
Hungry... many people struggle with this concept, and I have some understanding of the confusion around it. Why labor over it? Be still and allow God's Word to speak to you, laying aside your preconceived ideas as much as possible. Take a good look at the verses given in the previously linked thread. God may be no respecter of persons, but I think you are a pretty decent person and I would hate to see you lose your membership here because as has been already stated, denying the doctrine of the Divinity of Christ is the number one theological reason for being banned. One last thing to consider: Jesus said that if people did not know Who He was, they would die in their sins. I started this post to you this morning and see it still sitting here LOL. Toodles for now
I don't know why this is but I do not have any kind of problem with the people who go to my church.
Church people can be judgmental, I suppose...
But if you are living a life that is pleasing to the Lord you don't have to fear the judgment of church people very much.
I will pray for you that you will find a good church home and get plugged in.
After all, it is written,
Heb 10:24, And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:
Heb 10:25, Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
Church people can be judgmental, I suppose...
But if you are living a life that is pleasing to the Lord you don't have to fear the judgment of church people very much.
I will pray for you that you will find a good church home and get plugged in.
After all, it is written,
Heb 10:24, And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:
Heb 10:25, Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
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Thank you. Much to my astonishment, Portland, where I live has more Strip Clubs per capita than anywhere in America. Churches die on the vine here. I have been attending the Mormon Church to take communion and pray, but they just can not let it alone and constantly pressure me to get re Baptized and all that. It got really tiresome. I don't have a car and doubt that I'll get one. I've got an eye exam coming up to see if I can keep my License.
I am a rigid introvert and it is hard to get out of my shell. Go ahead, pray. I hope that will work out.
Gwen
I am a rigid introvert and it is hard to get out of my shell. Go ahead, pray. I hope that will work out.
Gwen
Katia,
When Paul quoted God when He said, "My Grace is sufficient for you," He was referring to the lifting of the Curse. When we have been freed of the Curse of the Lord, we have literally been given all things important. This Grace is more important than food, water, and oxygen. In our death, we are whole and complete. In our sufferings, such as "thorns in the flesh," if we have been Purified of the Sinful Nature, we will receive Eternal Life.
And I assure you of this: those unregenerates who harass you . . . these people have not been relieved of the Curse of the Lord, thus they are not a reflection of Christ. So here is what I want you to do: learn Colossians 2:9-15 in both the KJV and NLT translations, and your entire life will begin to change, for you will finally be shown the path to understanding the True Gospel of Jesus Christ. To Understand the Gospel, we must Understand the Purpose of Christ, the Work of Christ, and the Effect of Christ. The Bible contains all of these answers . . . and they are given to those who ask, seek, and knock.
I believe in you.
Colossians 2:9-15 NLT - "For in Christ lives all the fullness of God in a human body. So you also are complete through your union with Christ, who is the head over every ruler and authority. When you came to Christ, you were "circumcised," but not by a physical procedure. Christ performed a spiritual circumcision--the cutting away of your sinful nature. For you were buried with Christ when you were baptized. And with him you were raised to new life because you trusted the mighty power of God, who raised Christ from the dead. You were dead because of your sins and because your sinful nature was not yet cut away. Then God made you alive with Christ, for he forgave all our sins. He canceled the record of the charges against us and took it away by nailing it to the cross. In this way, he disarmed the spiritual rulers and authorities. He shamed them publicly by his victory over them on the cross."
When Paul quoted God when He said, "My Grace is sufficient for you," He was referring to the lifting of the Curse. When we have been freed of the Curse of the Lord, we have literally been given all things important. This Grace is more important than food, water, and oxygen. In our death, we are whole and complete. In our sufferings, such as "thorns in the flesh," if we have been Purified of the Sinful Nature, we will receive Eternal Life.
And I assure you of this: those unregenerates who harass you . . . these people have not been relieved of the Curse of the Lord, thus they are not a reflection of Christ. So here is what I want you to do: learn Colossians 2:9-15 in both the KJV and NLT translations, and your entire life will begin to change, for you will finally be shown the path to understanding the True Gospel of Jesus Christ. To Understand the Gospel, we must Understand the Purpose of Christ, the Work of Christ, and the Effect of Christ. The Bible contains all of these answers . . . and they are given to those who ask, seek, and knock.
I believe in you.
Colossians 2:9-15 NLT - "For in Christ lives all the fullness of God in a human body. So you also are complete through your union with Christ, who is the head over every ruler and authority. When you came to Christ, you were "circumcised," but not by a physical procedure. Christ performed a spiritual circumcision--the cutting away of your sinful nature. For you were buried with Christ when you were baptized. And with him you were raised to new life because you trusted the mighty power of God, who raised Christ from the dead. You were dead because of your sins and because your sinful nature was not yet cut away. Then God made you alive with Christ, for he forgave all our sins. He canceled the record of the charges against us and took it away by nailing it to the cross. In this way, he disarmed the spiritual rulers and authorities. He shamed them publicly by his victory over them on the cross."
Hi @Katia,
I would encourage you to avoid the mormon church because I believe with many orthodox Christians that they are a cult.
Abba Father, I ask You in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth Your Son to help Gwen to find a church that is suited to her and that preaches sound doctrine in the power and fire of the Holy Ghost. I ask You to give her discernment and also I pray that there is such a church near her that fits this criterium; or that such a church will soon pop up in her area that fits this criterium.
I would encourage you to avoid the mormon church because I believe with many orthodox Christians that they are a cult.
Abba Father, I ask You in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth Your Son to help Gwen to find a church that is suited to her and that preaches sound doctrine in the power and fire of the Holy Ghost. I ask You to give her discernment and also I pray that there is such a church near her that fits this criterium; or that such a church will soon pop up in her area that fits this criterium.
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