The "too nice" thing

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Liamson

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I LOVE kettle corn, and to be honest, I'm really not a fan of buttery salty sticky musky popcorn.
 

Liamson

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Also I guess the too nice thing has been a thorn in my backside as of late too.

I know this really friendly girl, who is super friendly with everyone. I've tried to suggest the possibility of being really good friends (much like forming an exploratory committee) and she just stays really friendly after hours of conversation. It never seems to crack that deeper, "hey I'm human and this is why", level. Its like she has 2 gears, sleep and really friendly.

So I've sort of been keeping her at arms length. In part because I don't understand her and also because I think she could be an alien robot spy with super friendly programming.
 
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thimsrebma

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And, oh yeah, forgot to say: given that people were arguing that being nice isn't a good thing, there was in fact supposed to be some irony that the same people might get a little mad about a lack of niceness. Feels wrong though that I have to spill that out.

I dont think we were saying that niceness is not good. I pointed out that there was a difference between being nice and being a push over. You can be both nice and dominant.

Just because you are nice doesn't mean you have to let people run over you and act as if you don't have an opinion about stuff and you only want to do what she wants. Thats actually not nice at all. Thats just a simple boring male who has no desire to take his God appointed leadership role seriously. That's why he will never get a girl unless he finds a domineering woman because she wants to "wear the pants" and because he has no ..... then he will let her.
 

Liamson

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what does (.....) five dots mean? ;)
 
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thimsrebma

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You are OUT OF LINE, sir. She did nothing to instigate this offensive verbal attack that you just posted. This is not appropriate language OR behavior. Please grow up or leave.

Zero, are you sure that Persecuted is not one of your other personalities? lol:D

I could see him and Nod going at it inside one brain.
 
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Im starting to think you are just bitter becasue you dated a girl and she cheated on you with a black guy and then left you or something. its the only thing that makes sense and explains your anger
No, no, no,.... much, much, much more extreme than that. I thought you said you read the other thread because it is way more honest and revealing than I tend to be on chat groups. Two assaults both caused by talking to white girls. Both girls were declared "*****es"" of ethnic guys. One severe injuries resulted and involved being pummelled by ten people, the other much less severe and only ffour to one. Most common response of idiot liberal Canadians "what business did you have talking to these girls anyways?" Well, they both just kinda came my way... and then the rest followed. But I mean, really, even without these incidents its a real sucker game. Getting told what a nice respectable loser I'm supposed to be while watching every other group do as it pleases. Doesn't really make any sense. And, hey, who says |I'm just bitter? Ever heard of watch and learn. If women all say they want bad boys, who am I to deprive them by holding to outdated standards and treating them in a way that they apparently find uninteresting and I find inhibitive myself?
 
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thimsrebma

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lol... and I guess we'd call you a bit of a coward for not touching the "white guys finish last" comments... even though apparently they upset you.

I've learnt long ago to completely ignore the politically correct crowd and to not try to censor myself in the least for their benefit. I'll take "troll" as a compliemnt, however, I do think my points are fair. We have at least two threads on this chat site saying that "bad boys" are preferred to "nice guys." That was NOT me, but WOMEN who voiced that. So questions..... why is that? And what exactly then are the behaviours of these oh so exciting "bad boys"? To me, allforfun's despised behaviour is the most simple and obvious trait of "badboys." LOOKING where opportunity presents itself rather than pretending not to notice like the "niceguys"would.

I've had this discussion before, and apparently after telling how exciting "badboys" are, women seem to refuse to fully describe what the actual behaviour is. In other cases, I found out that they were basically just speaking in code and really just meant "BLACK guys are cool." Which to me strikes me as pathetic because where I live it is simply the case that black guys are allowed to behave in manners that white guys are instantly in trouble for. That's just another sick joke of multiculturalism.

I find it all very interesting that in a time where I can be thrown out of school, fired, etc. for a CASUAL glance to some woman that might be a little hyper sensitive, the MAJORITY of WOMEN are saying "we want guys who have even worse behaviour! Its exciting to us!"

I'm normally not into name calling, but how dare you call someone else a coward when in another thread you said you are scared of women?

Look in the mirror buddy, look in the mirror.
 
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Liamson, I dunno, something about you deeply inspires me. I have become convinced that you should be President some day... hopefully before your country bankrupts too far. Just something about your casual ways is pure genius. My best advise to you is to never take advise from me. If so you will go places.
 
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I'm normally not into name calling, but how dare you call someone else a coward when in another thread you said you are scared of women?

Look in the mirror buddy, look in the mirror.
Okay, first off, every time I look in a mirror it cracks. So the seven years bad luck is kinda on you if I do. Second, its not cowardly to be scared of women. Its common sense to be scared of women. They are so scary. If they don't leave you with a broken heart aching for years they leave you trapped with a whole bunch of rugrats nibbling your sanity into complete baldness.
 

Liamson

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Liamson, I dunno, something about you deeply inspires me. I have become convinced that you should be President some day... hopefully before your country bankrupts too far. Just something about your casual ways is pure genius. My best advise to you is to never take advise from me. If so you will go places.
I have to admit, I like your style too. I may not agree entirely with your perspective but, your approach is amazing. (takes notes) :)
 
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thimsrebma

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After you read what you wrote

Okay, first off, every time I look in a mirror it cracks. So the seven years bad luck is kinda on you if I do. Second, its not cowardly to be scared of women. Its common sense to be scared of women. They are so scary. If they don't leave you with a broken heart aching for years they leave you trapped with a whole bunch of rugrats nibbling your sanity into complete baldness.

read what I wrote

Just because you are nice doesn't mean you have to let people run over you and act as if you don't have an opinion about stuff and you only want to do what she wants. Thats actually not nice at all. Thats just a simple boring male who has no desire to take his God appointed leadership role seriously. That's why he will never get a girl unless he finds a domineering woman because she wants to "wear the pants" and because he has no ..... then he will let her.
 
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I have to admit, I like your style too. I may not agree entirely with your perspective but, your approach is amazing. (takes notes) :)
Actually I was just thinking something here. I once went and watched this little dust up thingy between two different protest groups.. thought the whole time it was great entertainment and could use some popcorn. It got to the point where the two different sides had spilled on to the street blocking a major road, police were trying to keep them apart while they lobbed whatever they could at each other. I thought "cool, this should be put in tour guides and people could fly in from all over the world to see this fun every year."
 
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After you read what you wrote




read what I wrote
Yeah, I agree. That's why I've come to refuse to support stupid causes like Haiti, bank "bailouts",affirmative action, wars for Israel,etc. because like you say, you're not really doing any of them any favours by letting them walk all over you with their demands while they continue their super stupid behaviours. But I guess the problem is women much like dumb political causes tend to get really shrill if you don't go for their really dumb viewpoints and find ways to punish you if you don't fall in line. Like you should try telling some of the christian girls up here the bible doesn't actually say pre-marital sex is okay if you're doing it as some whacked out heroic effort to promote multiculturalism.
 
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kayem77

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I, too, have worked in a "man's world" all of my life. The truth of it is that we have to work twice as hard to earn their respect. Fair, no? But, why? Because SOME women DO use their feminine wiles in the workplace to get what they want and it makes it tough on the rest of us. There are also men who will never see women as anything more than toys, but most guys are not like that..
Julianna you reminded of something that Marilyn Monroe said : " I don't mind living in a man's world as long as I can be a woman in it."
As you said, I think the problem is that some men don't really know what a woman is ( I repeat SOME men) , so we as women have to try harder to make us look as a respectable human beings. Some men would even use the " she was dressing like she wanted it" to justify a raping ,so sadly sometimes we have to be double tough to prove them their perception is wrong, even though their perception is not justified.

How many times have you walked in the streets and been whistled or shouted with denigrant "compliments" by some men like if you were a walking piece of meat? I just recently moved to the USA so this has just happened twice to me here, so I don't know how much it really happens lol, but at least in Mexico, even in big cities it still happens a lot. I remember a friend who told me that she was walking in the streets when an ADULT GROWN man whistled at her and later she identified that man as a friend's father. The worst part is that his daughter has the same age as my friend, the one he whistled at. Gross right?
Maybe soooome girls like to be treated like that,and I don't think they really enjoy it, but they were raised like that (background,culture,etc ), but I think most women feel offended and kind of humiliated. Of course we like a man who knows how to appreciate our beauty but IN A RESPECTFUL way and in the proper place, we don't want to be treated as mindless sex toys. When people say all women like bad boys I really want to punch somebody in the face (or maybe I just need a hobby). Maybe they are right in the sense that you can watch how women tend to fall in venenous relationships, I mean, have you watched The Hills ? Heidi and Spencer are a one big example that comes to my mind haha. But I think this comes from the nurturing and giving nature most women have. Even if a man hurts you, you still love him, and you kind of want to feel special by being the one who" changed" him ( a big mistake ladies).

It's not like you voluntarily say YEAAH I WANT TO BE TREATED LIKE TRASH!, maybe it's just that some women don't really know how a relationship should be, or they are toooo in love to let him go. The same happens with men. Women complain that they just like ...hhmm, how can I say this? SUPER liberal girls? haahaha u know what I mean.
These stereotypes are more common in wordly persons, not godly. I don't think a real christian guy would loook for a girl who doesn't respect herself and wanders around naked. Or a real christian girl would look for a "bad guy" who wants too look cool doing "cool" things like being indifferent and deceitful to her.

Being TOO nice, or TOO naughty are both wrong. I personally would like a man who knows how to stand by himself, who is smart, and knows how to express himself ( directly but respectfully) and guides me and support me when I dont' know where I'm standing. This doesn't mean I want a man to boss me around , that doesn't care what I say or think ,or makes me feel stupid when I fail, unless he wants a ticket with no return to GodKnowsWhere.
In brief, I think generally we women want a man with whom we can sustain and walk together to the same direction and who loves us. When men do that, it's easier for women to return what is given.
Well at least, I honestly would like that. If you like Spencer Pratt type or Hitler please don't generalize and say we ALL find them sexy lol.
 
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kayem77

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Gosh, I don't know why I tend to write so much. I really want to make it brief but I can't hahaha
 
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thimsrebma

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Yeah, I agree. That's why I've come to refuse to support stupid causes like Haiti, bank "bailouts",affirmative action, wars for Israel,etc. because like you say, you're not really doing any of them any favours by letting them walk all over you with their demands while they continue their super stupid behaviours. But I guess the problem is women much like dumb political causes tend to get really shrill if you don't go for their really dumb viewpoints and find ways to punish you if you don't fall in line. Like you should try telling some of the christian girls up here the bible doesn't actually say pre-marital sex is okay if you're doing it as some whacked out heroic effort to promote multiculturalism.

The problem with what you are saying is that you are lumping most women together. Some of us may have been offended because we don't operate like that. I think your heart is hardened due to some unfortunate events and you need to ask God for some healing. Having hatred for people in you r heart only does harm to yourself.

Your verbal attacks on non white men are incredibly bigoted. You have decided, that because you have had a few unfortunate incidents with some non white men that they are all or most, bad. That's very sad. As a Christian woman who loves God with all her heart and soul, who happens to be Black, I think its important that we look at people as people. Everyone is born a sinner and remains that way. We have the forgiveness of God, if we ask for it and His grace that carries us. We have no right to decide that a group of people is "all" one way. Many of us "coloreds" are Bible believing Christians by faith and we walk the walk, we are intelligent, educated, providers, nurturers, and productive members of society.

I am sorry about those things that have happened to you that have bade you a bitter young man. Remember the enemy will continue to use what he knows works on you best. By continuing in anger and disgust for men of non European ancestry and the white women who love them, you are allowing the enemy to control a major part of your life, living.
 
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Jullianna

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Julianna you reminded of something that Marilyn Monroe said : " I don't mind living in a man's world as long as I can be a woman in it."
As you said, I think the problem is that some men don't really know what a woman is ( I repeat SOME men) , so we as women have to try harder to make us look as a respectable human beings. Some men would even use the " she was dressing like she wanted it" to justify a raping ,so sadly sometimes we have to be double tough to prove them their perception is wrong, even though their perception is not justified.

How many times have you walked in the streets and been whistled or shouted with denigrant "compliments" by some men like if you were a walking piece of meat? I just recently moved to the USA so this has just happened twice to me here, so I don't know how much it really happens lol, but at least in Mexico, even in big cities it still happens a lot. I remember a friend who told me that she was walking in the streets when an ADULT GROWN man whistled at her and later she identified that man as a friend's father. The worst part is that his daughter has the same age as my friend, the one he whistled at. Gross right?
Maybe soooome girls like to be treated like that,and I don't think they really enjoy it, but they were raised like that (background,culture,etc ), but I think most women feel offended and kind of humiliated. Of course we like a man who knows how to appreciate our beauty but IN A RESPECTFUL way and in the proper place, we don't want to be treated as mindless sex toys. When people say all women like bad boys I really want to punch somebody in the face (or maybe I just need a hobby). Maybe they are right in the sense that you can watch how women tend to fall in venenous relationships, I mean, have you watched The Hills ? Heidi and Spencer are a one big example that comes to my mind haha. But I think this comes from the nurturing and giving nature most women have. Even if a man hurts you, you still love him, and you kind of want to feel special by being the one who" changed" him ( a big mistake ladies).

It's not like you voluntarily say YEAAH I WANT TO BE TREATED LIKE TRASH!, maybe it's just that some women don't really know how a relationship should be, or they are toooo in love to let him go. The same happens with men. Women complain that they just like ...hhmm, how can I say this? SUPER liberal girls? haahaha u know what I mean.
These stereotypes are more common in wordly persons, not godly. I don't think a real christian guy would loook for a girl who doesn't respect herself and wanders around naked. Or a real christian girl would look for a "bad guy" who wants too look cool doing "cool" things like being indifferent and deceitful to her.

Being TOO nice, or TOO naughty are both wrong. I personally would like a man who knows how to stand by himself, who is smart, and knows how to express himself ( directly but respectfully) and guides me and support me when I dont' know where I'm standing. This doesn't mean I want a man to boss me around , that doesn't care what I say or think ,or makes me feel stupid when I fail, unless he wants a ticket with no return to GodKnowsWhere.
In brief, I think generally we women want a man with whom we can sustain and walk together to the same direction and who loves us. When men do that, it's easier for women to return what is given.
Well at least, I honestly would like that. If you like Spencer Pratt type or Hitler please don't generalize and say we ALL find them sexy lol.
Love the Monroe quote. :) And the fact that you too have "I wanna punch someone in the face" moments make me love you even more. :) The whistling, pinching, hiney slapping, breast grazing....*sigh*

I would say that it comes from immaturity, but as I was leaving court a while back, a guy who had to have been at least in his 80s was sitting on the steps and said, "I haven't seen a wiggle like that in a long time". I didn't turn around around, but, to be honest, I did chuckle all the way to my car. Coming from a friend's dad would be totally creeping though..ugh.
 

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Jullianna

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Also I guess the too nice thing has been a thorn in my backside as of late too.

I know this really friendly girl, who is super friendly with everyone. I've tried to suggest the possibility of being really good friends (much like forming an exploratory committee) and she just stays really friendly after hours of conversation. It never seems to crack that deeper, "hey I'm human and this is why", level. Its like she has 2 gears, sleep and really friendly.

So I've sort of been keeping her at arms length. In part because I don't understand her and also because I think she could be an alien robot spy with super friendly programming.
Sounds like a trust issue. Some of us are like that and allow few in that far.