Will I ever get a good wife of Christ?

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Zdenek said:
Yes. And there's nothing wrong with hating the ones who hate Jesus, there is?
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That wasn't the attitude Jesus had. And it's pretty arrogant for anyone to think that because the Jesus lived in and was executed by a Jewish system that that makes that system the most evil in existence. I'm willing to bet that Jesus would have been executed by any society he showed up in, especially if it was integral to God's plan that such happen.
 
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Magenta said:
No doubt you have heard complaints of Christians also?

Ah, yes, you even have your own!
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But hey, I said nothing about them! I just stated that I did know little about them.
 
JohnDB

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Zdenek said:
believe in the Talmud (Bible of Satan) and are destroying the world
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Ummm
The Talmud is a collection of fictional stories that help the Jews understand the principles that scriptures teach...kinda like Aesop's fables. These are moralistic stories...like "Sour Grapes" But just thousands of years old.
 
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Magenta said:
Why single out the Jews among unbelievers?
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Because they are the ones who killed Christ. They are Satans in human form.

They are the ones who created Communism and enslaved my country, destroyed our churches and corrupted our morals.
 
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JohnDB said:
Ummm
The Talmud is a collection of fictional stories that help the Jews understand the principles that scriptures teach...kinda like Aesop's fables. These are moralistic stories...like "Sour Grapes" But just thousands of years old.
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And a collection of blasphemies that even hurt my hears...
 
JohnDB

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Zdenek said:
Is this what do you understand as "loving" your enemy?

Are you sure the "love" Jesus mentioned is the "love" you understand?
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I studied this story hard and investigated it because it was seemingly out of character of Jesus.

What had happened was that the Jews had turned the Temple into a scheeming scamming marketplace. This was the location for the Samaritan's to pray at the Temple. They believed in God but couldn't get to the inner courtyard to pray like the Jews could...they had to stand (if they could) next to the merchants selling overpriced animals and moneychangers haggling over exchange rates to pray with security guards protecting the moneychangers...giving everyone the evil eye.

Even still this marketplace was full of Jews who later would be trapped in the Temple when Rome besieged the Temple. Jesus was trying to save the average working person even though they were working in the wrong place.

People don't give up money easily...but Jesus was still trying to save them from a much more serious fate...and was resorting to more corporal methods to try to save them.
 
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Zdenek said:
Because they are the ones who killed Christ. They are Satans in human form.

They are the ones who created Communism and enslaved my country, destroyed our churches and corrupted our morals.
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Christ died for the sins of the world, not because of any one group. The Jews didn't kill Jesus either - it was the Roman occupied forces. They were just the instrument of His death and not the cause of why He died.
 
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Zdenek said:
And a collection of blasphemies that even hurt my hears...
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Im not sure what you are referencing then...I have several collections of Talmud stories...some are absolutely fantasy...others more simply absurd...none are evil or coarse...well maybe one or two might be considered coarse by today's standards.

I really don't understand your blasphemy assertion...nobody believes these stories to be true. How are they blasphemous?

Is Goldilocks and the Three Bears blasphemy? Sour Grapes? Frog and the Scorpion?

These are all stories just like what you would find in the Talmud.
 
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JohnDB said:
Im not sure what you are referencing then...I have several collections of Talmud stories...some are absolutely fantasy...others more simply absurd...none are evil or coarse...well maybe one or two might be considered coarse by today's standards.

I really don't understand your blasphemy assertion...nobody believes these stories to be true. How are they blasphemous?

Is Goldilocks and the Three Bears blasphemy? Sour Grapes? Frog and the Scorpion?

These are all stories just like what you would find in the Talmud.
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It's strange you didn't realize that Jesus is called son of a Roman soldier and a harlot in that book.
 
JohnDB

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Zdenek said:
It's strange you didn't realize that Jesus is called son of a Roman soldier and a harlot in that book.
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No...
That's a completely different book. That's not Talmud that is coming from a collection of stories called pseudopigrapha...aka false writers. This includes such works as the Gospel of Thomas, Gospel of Mary and etc. None of that is Talmud. The writers of pseudopigrapha are not Jewish. These were just people trying to make quick money from Royalty in the years after 300 AD.
 
Magenta

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Zdenek said:
Because they are the ones who killed Christ. They are Satans in human form.

They are the ones who created Communism and enslaved my country, destroyed our churches and corrupted our morals.
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Please get it through your head that the Romans put Christ to death.

Were the Jewish leaders complicit? Sure they were. And they are held responsible also.

If you want to talk about corruption in the church, we will need to discuss Roman Catholicism.

Although there were false teachers right from the get-go. Catholicism codified it though.
 
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