What did Jesus say about HIMSELF?

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• Rev 22:16 . . I am the offspring of David

The Greek word translated "offspring" is genos (ghen'-os) which basically
refers to kin, viz: one's relatives.

Christ's kinship with David is quite a bit more specific in Rom 1:1-3 where it
says:

"Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to
the flesh"

The Greek word translated "seed" in that passage is sperma (sper'-mah)
which is a bit ambiguous because it can refer to spiritual progeny as well as
to biological progeny; for example:

• Gal 3:29 . . If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed.

That seed is obviously spiritual progeny; whereas David's is biological
because it's "according to the flesh" i.e. his physical human body.

Seeing as Jesus' dad Joseph played no role in his son's conception, and his
wife was a virgin at the time, then Jesus' physical connection to David
defaults thru his mother, i.e. Mary was related to David; which places her
baby in David's tribe; the tribe of Judah. (Heb 7:14)

This fact may be somewhat insignificant to most Gentiles-- other than their
interest in Christ's connection to Abraham's promises --but Jesus' physical
connection to David is extremely important to the Jews because in order to
validate Jesus' right to rule over the land of Israel, he absolutely must be
biologically situated in the Davidic dynasty: no getting around it. (2Sam 7:8
17 and Ps 89:3-4)

FAQ: From whence did baby Jesus obtain a Y chromosome for his male
gender?

A: In the beginning, God constructed Eve's entire body with some material
taken from Adam's body, so I'd imagine it would be no more difficult for God
to construct a teensy little Y chromosome for baby Jesus with some material
taken from Mary's body.

The beauty of it is that a Y chromosome constructed with material taken
from Mary's body would not be an alien substance created ex nihilo; but
would be 100% natural, and easily traceable all the way back to Eve, and
from thence to the very dust that was used to construct Adam's body.

I can't prove any of this of course, but nevertheless I sincerely believe that
what I suggest herein actually took place when the power of the Most High
overshadowed Jesus' mom per Luke 1:35; and if my suggestion is true, then
little Jesus was thoroughly a Jew from top to bottom-- biologically descended
from not only David, but also Adam, the Man that God created in the book of
Genesis.

• Heb 2:17 . . He had to be made like his brethren in every way
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[tourist]

The arrogance of religious people in only outdone by ATHIESTS!

Your arrogance got you a one-way ticket to Bansville.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Your arrogance got you a one-way ticket to Bansville.

I think most people could see that coming a mile away

 

[tourist]

I think most people could see that coming a mile away

I'm surprised he lasted as long as he did.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I'm surprised he lasted as long as he did.

Yeah, I did not see a lot of it. As usual I am a late comer..

 

[tourist]

Yeah, I did not see a lot of it. As usual I am a late comer..

He was a typical troll that was only interested in promoting his skewed perception of truth.

 

[SophieT]

He was a typical troll that was only interested in promoting his skewed perception of truth.

he was not ignorant concerning scripture

we have those who have 'left' their faith and who come here to argue as well

there are websites out there for 'ex-Christians'

I think sometimes folks either do not know that or forget it

and we also have the loose bolts and nuts, experts on their own opinions and various other categories of "I'm here to prove you all wrong"

 

[tourist]

he was not ignorant concerning scripture

we have those who have 'left' their faith and who come here to argue as well

there are websites out there for 'ex-Christians'

I think sometimes folks either do not know that or forget it

and we also have the loose bolts and nuts, experts on their own opinions and various other categories of "I'm here to prove you all wrong"

...ain't that the truth.

 

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• Rev 22:16 .. I am the root of David

This hails way back to the eleventh and fifty-third chapters of Isaiah where
there's predicted that David's root will sprout a twig that ultimately becomes
a branch.

The two chapters aren't very long; and I have to say they are very much
worth the reading because they tell so much about Christ: his person, his
purpose, his work, and his future kingdom on earth.

• Rev 22:16 . . I am the bright morning star.

By comparing Isa 14:12, Luke 10:18, and Rev 2:26-28; it can be readily
deduced that the Bible's morning stars are persons wielding political power.
But none are as radiant as Christ because he's the signet promised to
Zerubbabel in Hag 2:21-23. In other words: Jesus wields the power of God
so much so that he is in the position of God as God.

• Rev 1:8 . . I am the Alpha and the Omega-- says the Lord God --who is,
and who was, and who is to come: the Almighty
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• Matt 11:29a . . I am meek

( Moses was meek too. Num 12:3 )

Jesus would likely get challenged for his statement seeing as how he wasn't
passive while evicting merchants from the Temple area. So, if meekness
isn't the opposite of anger and aggression, then what are we talking about
here?

The Greek word translated "meek" is praus (prah-ooce') which means mild,
defined by Webster's as gentle in nature or behavior; i.e. temperate; viz:
agreeable, approachable, reasonable, calm, mellow, and self-controlled.

Well it appears to me that Jesus is the kind of man that picks his battles
carefully, and avoids getting all riled up over trifles, i.e. he's not bipolar, nor
ready to fight at the drop of a hat, nor does he consider every disagreement
an act of war to be won at any cost.

In other words; Jesus was temperate, self controlled, agreeable, reasonable,
approachable, patient, tolerant, not easily insulted, and lenient.

Non-temperate people could be characterized as moody, grudging, irritable,
emotional, thin-skinned, belligerent, militant, pugnacious, brawling,
defensive, confrontational, and reactive; around whom everybody has to
walk on egg shells all the time to avoid setting them off.

A man mellow in demeanor should never be assumed lacking in strength,
courage, conviction, or self confidence. Anybody who's studied the lives of
Moses and Jesus can easily testify that neither of those men were either
timid, wimpy, or vacillating.
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• Matt 11:29a . . . I am humble.

Jesus didn't have a problem with conceit; defined by Webster's as as
excessive self-appreciation of one's own worth or virtue. In other words
hubris; which often indicates a loss of contact with reality and an
overestimation of one's own competence, accomplishments or capabilities.

We can trust Jesus' opinion of himself because he has been approved by a
much higher critic than even the best and the brightest among us.

• Matt 3:16-17 . . And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway
out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw
the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: and lo a
voice from heaven, saying: This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well
pleased.

And again:

• Matt 17:4-5 . . Peter said to Jesus: Lord, it is good for us to be here. If
you wish, I will put up three shelters-one for you, one for Moses and one for
Elijah. While he was still speaking, a bright cloud enveloped them, and a
voice from the cloud said: This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well
pleased. Listen to him.
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[riverhooks]

SERIOUSLY - you don't know - you are in unbelief and under the deception of false teachings from false prophets.

You do not even believe your own Thread - What did Jesus say about HIMSELF?

“Therefore My Father loves Me, because I lay down My life that I may take it again.
No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down of Myself.
I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again.
This command I have received from My Father.”

I went an elders house back in the seventies because he said Jesus raised himself from the dead.

 

[riverhooks]

Everytime you try to split up the Godhead into Three ( Persons) you lose. Everytime. I went to an elders house back in seventies He had just preached on how Jesus had raised Himself from the dead. So I went over to the house of this man of God and gave him Galatians chapter one verse one. " Paul, an apostle , not of men neither by man but by Jesus Christ and God the Father who raised Him from the dead. " He replied, somewhat miffed ( He was an older man with white hair and moustache I was 26 or 27 ) Brother !
And what does this mean when He says , " Destroy this temple and in three days I will raise it up ! Ah Let us make man in our image and in our likeness. So how do you approach this person who says I AM that I AM.? Jesus said God is a Spirit. The Bible says, God was manifest in the flesh, etc. Pretty much it works like this they are one . Hear o Israel the Lord our God is one Lord. Check this out. In Isaiah Jesus is called the Everlasting Father, in the epistle to the Hebrews the brightness of His Glory/quotes/ He that has seen me has seen the Father, I am in the Father and the Father in me Ephesians says God who created all things by Jesus Christ. The Holy Spirit is mentioned in various places as the Spirit of the Father, The Spirit of God, The Holy Spirit, The Spirit of Christ. These are a few , just to stop there . I think they best way to approach it is let "God be God". Just don't leave Jesus out of the Godhead for it pleased the Father that in Him should all fullness dwell and All the fullness of the God head dwells in him bodily.

 

[riverhooks]

John 12:44- And Jesus cried out and said, “He who believes in me, believes not in me but in Him who sent me.
45- And he who sees me sees Him who sent me. [John 10]
46- I have come as light into the world, that whoever believes in me may not remain in darkness.
47- If any one hears my sayings and does not keep them, I do not judge him; for I did not come to judge the world but to save the world. 48- He who rejects me and does not receive my sayings has a judge; the word that I have spoken will be his judge on the last day.
49- For I have not spoken on my own authority; the Father who sent me has Himself given me commandment what to say and what to speak.
50- And I know that his commandment is eternal life. What I say, therefore, I say as the Father has bidden me.”

Jesus the Greatest Messenger (Angel) God ever had!

John 12:44- And Jesus cried out and said, “He who believes in me, believes not in me but in Him who sent me.
45- And he who sees me sees Him who sent me. [John 10]
46- I have come as light into the world, that whoever believes in me may not remain in darkness.
47- If any one hears my sayings and does not keep them, I do not judge him; for I did not come to judge the world but to save the world. 48- He who rejects me and does not receive my sayings has a judge; the word that I have spoken will be his judge on the last day.
49- For I have not spoken on my own authority; the Father who sent me has Himself given me commandment what to say and what to speak.
50- And I know that his commandment is eternal life. What I say, therefore, I say as the Father has bidden me.”

Jesus the Greatest Messenger (Angel) God ever had!

John12:27- “Now is my soul troubled. And what shall I say? ‘Father, save me from this hour’? No, for this purpose I have come to this hour. 28- Father, glorify thy name.” Then a voice came from heaven, “I have glorified it, and I will glorify it again.”

Who was this? The 'Holy Ghost' and 'God-The-Father" in unity?

Everytime you try to split up the Godhead into Three ( Persons) you lose. Everytime. I went to an elders house back in seventies He had just preached on how Jesus had raised Himself from the dead. So I went over to the house of this man of God and gave him Galatians chapter one verse one. " Paul, an apostle , not of men neither by man but by Jesus Christ and God the Father who raised Him from the dead. " He replied, somewhat miffed ( He was an older man with white hair and moustache I was 26 or 27 ) Brother !
And what does this mean when He says , " Destroy this temple and in three days I will raise it up ! Ah Let us make man in our image and in our likeness. So how do you approach this person who says I AM that I AM.? Jesus said God is a Spirit. The Bible says, God was manifest in the flesh, etc. Pretty much it works like this they are one . Hear o Israel the Lord our God is one Lord. Check this out. In Isaiah Jesus is called the Everlasting Father, in the epistle to the Hebrews the brightness of His Glory/quotes/ He that has seen me has seen the Father, I am in the Father and the Father in me Ephesians says God who created all things by Jesus Christ. The Holy Spirit is mentioned in various places as the Spirit of the Father, The Spirit of God, The Holy Spirit, The Spirit of Christ. These are a few , just to stop there . I think they best way to approach it is let "God be God". Just don't leave Jesus out of the Godhead for it pleased the Father that in Him should all fullness dwell and All the fullness of the God head dwells in him bodily.

 

[riverhooks]

Everytime you try to split up the Godhead into Three ( Persons) you lose. Everytime. I went to an elders house back in seventies He had just preached on how Jesus had raised Himself from the dead. So I went over to the house of this man of God and gave him Galatians chapter one verse one. " Paul, an apostle , not of men neither by man but by Jesus Christ and God the Father who raised Him from the dead. " He replied, somewhat miffed ( He was an older man with white hair and moustache I was 26 or 27 ) Brother !
And what does this mean when He says , " Destroy this temple and in three days I will raise it up ! Ah Let us make man in our image and in our likeness. So how do you approach this person who says I AM that I AM.? Jesus said God is a Spirit. The Bible says, God was manifest in the flesh, etc. Pretty much it works like this they are one . Hear o Israel the Lord our God is one Lord. Check this out. In Isaiah Jesus is called the Everlasting Father, in the epistle to the Hebrews the brightness of His Glory/quotes/ He that has seen me has seen the Father, I am in the Father and the Father in me Ephesians says God who created all things by Jesus Christ. The Holy Spirit is mentioned in various places as the Spirit of the Father, The Spirit of God, The Holy Spirit, The Spirit of Christ. These are a few , just to stop there . I think they best way to approach it is let "God be God". Just don't leave Jesus out of the Godhead for it pleased the Father that in Him should all fullness dwell and All the fullness of the God head dwells in him bodily.

 

[riverhooks]

"How much more shall the blood of Christ , who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God ?

 

[DavidTree]

Everytime you try to split up the Godhead into Three ( Persons) you lose. Everytime. I went to an elders house back in seventies He had just preached on how Jesus had raised Himself from the dead. So I went over to the house of this man of God and gave him Galatians chapter one verse one. " Paul, an apostle , not of men neither by man but by Jesus Christ and God the Father who raised Him from the dead. " He replied, somewhat miffed ( He was an older man with white hair and moustache I was 26 or 27 ) Brother !
And what does this mean when He says , " Destroy this temple and in three days I will raise it up ! Ah Let us make man in our image and in our likeness. So how do you approach this person who says I AM that I AM.? Jesus said God is a Spirit. The Bible says, God was manifest in the flesh, etc. Pretty much it works like this they are one . Hear o Israel the Lord our God is one Lord. Check this out. In Isaiah Jesus is called the Everlasting Father, in the epistle to the Hebrews the brightness of His Glory/quotes/ He that has seen me has seen the Father, I am in the Father and the Father in me Ephesians says God who created all things by Jesus Christ. The Holy Spirit is mentioned in various places as the Spirit of the Father, The Spirit of God, The Holy Spirit, The Spirit of Christ. These are a few , just to stop there . I think they best way to approach it is let "God be God". Just don't leave Jesus out of the Godhead for it pleased the Father that in Him should all fullness dwell and All the fullness of the God head dwells in him bodily.

i never split up the Godhead - John 1:1 , Math 3:16 , Acts 4

 

[peldom10]

Most people believe him God. Many people that he was sent by God, his life beginning when he was born.
A few that he was in Heaven before being made human.

Why don't we listen to HIS words before our pre-conceived ideas?

....also ......that He is God.

 

[riverhooks]

In the beginning was the Word, the Word was with God , the Word was God, Christ humbled himself and took on our flesh God highly exalted Him. Natural minds even renewed minds have a struggle with this A God who is a Spirit . Christ as a mediatior between God and men . Jesus having a name above Every name , to assume the Father has a name. Jesus prayed Father "Glorify thy name". The Bible talks of Jesus being the Son of the Father. Where the cults are obvious is that the reduce Christ to Sonship alone and The Father as God alone. They are one . We limit God. We are learning but it is possible that the same person can function in three offices even in the incarnation, They are one. He is . I AM . Jesus Christ the same , yesterday, today and forever.

 

[riverhooks]

"He SENT forth His Word and He healed them ". I am speaking objectively and do not imply that anyone is splitting up the Godhead. Peace