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Hann57

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Do you see from the KJV that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are One?
There is One God. Not three persons
You have said you believe in God, but your profile says you are not Christian...don't you think you should change your spiritual status?

...and again, which one of the three, Father, Son, Holy Spirit, is God at the present time according to you?
Paul never wrote in any of his epistles to become a Christian. Paul preached the gospel to the lost where ever he went.
 

Hann57

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I won’t say that I am a Christian. Anyone can say that, in fact I despise the word Christian because it’s meaning has no value anymore.

If anyone can see Christ in me, then I must be following the right Jesus. If any man hath not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of His. 😊
The proof that you are saved is YOU not others. If you have believed the gospel given to Paul by Christ you will know for certain you are saved.
Rom 8:16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
 

Blik

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The word Christian can be applied to those who are killing other people. It’s just a name. There are millions of people from all so called Christian denominations and none of them are truly born again. Yet, they identify themselves as “christian”. Anyone can take the name and have not the Spirit of Christ.

I liked what one JW said when he came to my door to talk about his religion. I said, “I am born again”. He said, as he turn around and left my porch, “Oh, you are one of them”.

I wish to be called, “I am one of them”.
A rose by any name is still a rose.
 
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#66
To argue over the Trinity is like
you are never going to win.
 

BonnieClaire

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Paul never wrote in any of his epistles to become a Christian. Paul preached the gospel to the lost where ever he went.
Paul was a Christian, and so was Peter...now find Jesus and get saved!


Acts 26:28
Then Agrippa said unto Paul, Almost thou persuadest me to be a Christian. ~KJV

1 Peter 4:16
Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf. ~KJV


Ciao
 

BonnieClaire

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It is a doctrine taught in many religious groups, which is not scriptural.
The trinity doctrine is totally scriptural...now find the one true Jesus of the bible and get saved!

Ciao
 

ResidentAlien

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#69
Jesus Christ is God. The Father is God. The Spirit of Christ is God.
However, are these three eternally one? Or, as the Modalists believe, is there only God, who sometimes manifests as the Father; sometimes as the Son; and sometimes as the Spirit?
 
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There is One God. Not three persons

Paul never wrote in any of his epistles to become a Christian. Paul preached the gospel to the lost where ever he went.
He did say it, but I don’t want to be nit-picky as some do here. Just look for it yourself, it’s found in the book of Acts.
 

justbyfaith

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Any group can be labeled as "those who are killing other people," yet you single out Christians as though you hate them.
Join us and get saved today...you don't have much time!

It should be your testimony that the Father sent the Son to be the Savior of the world, not that the Father became the Son.

1 John 4:14
And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world. ~KJV


Ciao
The Son is the Father come in human flesh (see Hebrews 10:5).

God is a Spirit (Ephesians 4:4, John 4:23-24). Jesus, the Son, is the same Spirit (John 4:24, Ephesians 4:4) incarnated in flesh.

This is a major aspect of the true understanding of the doctrine of the Trinity.

https://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/understanding-the-trinity-as-a-doctrine.201406/
 
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Trinity is not in my Bible
True. The specific nature of the relationship between Father, Son, and Holy Spirit may be left as a mystery without diminishing the word of God. But there are explicit lines about Jesus being God, and Jesus and the Father being one. I don't remember any commandment saying "thou shalt have perfect understanding of how things work" so we might assume that even if we get some of the details wrong it isn't a big deal as long as the spirit of our understanding remains true. We love God, and we love our neighbours as ourselves. Despite all of our human attempts to use logic and signs to make sense of what we read and experience, we are still at the mercy and grace of God to show us the way. Whether someone's a Trinitarian or not, I think that by itself isn't necessarily a hard line that divides us.

"[Jesus answered them,] I and my Father are one." - John 10:30 KJV
 

justbyfaith

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Of course, if someone is a Tritheist they are not saved according to the Trinitarian creeds.
 

Hann57

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However, are these three eternally one? Or, as the Modalists believe, is there only God, who sometimes manifests as the Father; sometimes as the Son; and sometimes as the Spirit?
Why are you asking me. I am not the answer man here. I read the Bible the King James. There is not triune God.
Salvation is by believing the gospel given to Paul by Christ.
 

ResidentAlien

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Why are you asking me. I am not the answer man here. I read the Bible the King James. There is not triune God.
Salvation is by believing the gospel given to Paul by Christ.
Why am I asking? You're the one who said you don't believe in the trinity. If you don't want questions you shouldn't put it out there.

You keep posting post after post claiming all kinds of things but you don't want to take responsibility for any of it. I'm thinking it's about time for the ignore button.
 

Blain

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Satan wants debates. That takes the attention off the gospel.
Before I continue reading the rest of the posts I just wanted to touch on this statement really quick. satan isn't concnerned about debates he just wants division, debates can actually be very edifying I know that for me personally I have learned and grown quite a lot from debates even the most heated debates can be edifying if one has the right kind of learningg spirit.The problem is everyone is so fixated on how they are right and others are wrong that few are able to glean gems from said debates.

God is in our debates as is the devil every debate is a spiritual battle God and satan are the players we are the chess pieces. Never forget that we battle not against flesh and bone so every time we go into debates we are saying to God use me but we also cannot forget how chess works if a pieces is taken over the enemy can then advance so it is always important to remember when going into any debate to have your prepared for anything that is thrown and to respond in how Jesus taught us as tempting as it may be to respond otherwise
 

Blain

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As far as the word trinity goes no it is not in scripture as a word but as an actual person it is clearly shown in scripture, the bible is like an onion or the earths crust it has many layers and sometimes you have to look into the deeper layers of the bible to see hidden truths if Jesus was not God then he would have been like any other man prone to sin and could not be the sacrificial lamb that was needed. He was not born into this world by mans seed, if he was not God then when he called himself I am in John that was blaspheme yet he said Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am.” (8:58)Jesus’ climactic reply, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am,”

However when the holy spirit is spoken of he is held in such high regard that anyone who blasphemes the holy spirit we are warned "All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven unto men"
So if the holy spirit is merely a spirit why is he held in such regard that we are specifically warned against speaking ill of him? if not a man if not a mere spirit then what else is he but God? Not even the angels themselves are spoken of in such a way
 

Hann57

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Before I continue reading the rest of the posts I just wanted to touch on this statement really quick. satan isn't concnerned about debates he just wants division, debates can actually be very edifying I know that for me personally I have learned and grown quite a lot from debates even the most heated debates can be edifying if one has the right kind of learningg spirit.The problem is everyone is so fixated on how they are right and others are wrong that few are able to glean gems from said debates.

God is in our debates as is the devil every debate is a spiritual battle God and satan are the players we are the chess pieces. Never forget that we battle not against flesh and bone so every time we go into debates we are saying to God use me but we also cannot forget how chess works if a pieces is taken over the enemy can then advance so it is always important to remember when going into any debate to have your prepared for anything that is thrown and to respond in how Jesus taught us as tempting as it may be to respond otherwise
Really. What does God say about debates then.

2Co_12:20 For I fear, lest, when I come, I shall not find you such as I would, and that I shall be found unto you such as ye would not: lest there be debates, envyings, wraths, strifes, backbitings, whisperings, swellings, tumults:

All of these in this verse, debates, envying, wraths, strifes, backbiting, whisperings, swellings, tumults, Is sinning, and not pleasing God.

2Co 2:10 To whom ye forgive any thing, I forgive also: for if I forgave any thing, to whom I forgave it, for your sakes forgave I it in the person of Christ;
2Co 2:11 Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices.