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so no physical resemblance of either then? I don't believe in a deity or god but i'm not 100% on everything. There's old and then there's 800 years old are you happy to just accept that as true even though no human has ever been recorded to live that long but him and Noah lived a very long life? He talks about the separation of waters through the use of a dome in the midst of them what's that all about?
 
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of course I'm owed proof the burden of proof is on you as you believe in something that has yet to be proved to be real it's like me believing Harry Potter is real or Spiderman.
 
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of course I'm owed proof the burden of proof is on you as you believe in something that has yet to be proved to be real it's like me believing Harry Potter is real or Spiderman.

You're owed proof? There's your problem. You're too scared to imagine that things might be out of your control. That everything is all about you. That you can't just get away with whatever you want.

So, nothing exploding for no reason to create the world is more probable than an individual creating everything?


When it comes down to it, some day we'll all die.
If Christians are wrong, we lose nothing, you lose nothing.
But when our God is revealed, we lose nothing, you lose everything.

You can continue to deny God's love, but someday all will be revealed and you will regret it.
I don't want to argue with you anymore. Think what you will, it's obvious you didn't come here for anything besides to argue your ideas.
I'll pray that you see things differently and the Lord touches you.
God bless.
 
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there's no fear I think the fear is on your side I think you might fear the existence of God and if you do not comply then you might regret it in the "Afterlife" I'll lose nothing either way as I'll be forgiven apparently but you'll miss out as you'll miss out on aspects of life during the 1 life you can be 100% sure of.

I also talk to people on an Atheist chat room who are Christians and they talk to us about their views and it doesn't offend it's just interesting to see other peoples ideas on life, I just think a life of prejudice is a waste. We are all equals no matter what.
 
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Oh yeah and on the universe being created it's amazing isn't it absolutely fantastic and the fact it's taken humans millions if not billions of years to begin existence and the fact we are a tiny grain of sand in this universe to inhabit life (to our knowledge) is a beautiful accident and the result of natural causes, in my opinion.
 
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there's no fear I think the fear is on your side I think you might fear the existence of God and if you do not comply then you might regret it in the "Afterlife" I'll lose nothing either way as I'll be forgiven apparently but you'll miss out as you'll miss out on aspects of life during the 1 life you can be 100% sure of.

I also talk to people on an Atheist chat room who are Christians and they talk to us about their views and it doesn't offend it's just interesting to see other peoples ideas on life, I just think a life of prejudice is a waste. We are all equals no matter what.
Well, just to clarify the forgiveness part, if you deny him, and don't follow the simplest of laws, you aren't forgiven. It's not a get out of jail free pass.

What will I miss out on? I can't think of a single thing I'm worried about not experiencing.

Once again, I haven't said anything rude or said anything to offend you. I've been on the defensive mode the whole time in fact.
In all honesty, not a single thing I've said has meant to be rude or offensive.
Maybe you should message me and find out about more than just me in a corner.
 
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You haven't caused me offense but it comes across that I have offended and I'm just questioning the validity of the bible and the beliefs of Christians, you'll miss out on some aspects of life as there are rules you have to follow but you could say you don't miss what you don't have I suppose. I'm not worried about an after life If I come to be judged then so be it all I know for certain is here and now.
 
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so no physical resemblance of either then?
Not sure what hte question is in reference to.

I don't believe in a deity or god but i'm not 100% on everything.
So you should be agnostic. Since you aren't certain.

There's old and then there's 800 years old are you happy to just accept that as true even though no human has ever been recorded to live that long but him and Noah lived a very long life?
There has been recordings of old people. The bible.


He talks about the separation of waters through the use of a dome in the midst of them what's that all about?
Where's the problem?
 
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You haven't caused me offense but it comes across that I have offended and I'm just questioning the validity of the bible and the beliefs of Christians, you'll miss out on some aspects of life as there are rules you have to follow but you could say you don't miss what you don't have I suppose. I'm not worried about an after life If I come to be judged then so be it all I know for certain is here and now.
I've had all the things I shouldn't have. And I can honestly say I'm much happier without them.

I can't say you're going to hell. It's not my place to condemn or judge. We all sin, and I can't point to you and run through your list of sins. Christ died so our sins may be forgiven, to what extent this covers, I really don't know. But we shouldn't want God just to be safe in the afterlife. He can do amazing things in this life.

He loves you, and he doesn't want any harm to come to you. If you tried to reach out to him, I promise he'd reach back. I know you have your beliefs, or lack thereof, but it wouldn't hurt to try, now would it?
 
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of course I'm owed proof the burden of proof is on you as you believe in something that has yet to be proved to be real it's like me believing Harry Potter is real or Spiderman.
Burdon of proof is a two way street.

If I offfer proof, you must "disprove". Simply sayng, "NAWWW, I'M NOT CONVINCED DOC!!" Doesn't work.
 
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jimmydiggs

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there's no fear I think the fear is on your side I think you might fear the existence of God and if you do not comply then you might regret it in the "Afterlife"
Heaven and Hell don't phase me. I am compelled by my persuit of truth, and to live truth.


I'll lose nothing either way as I'll be forgiven apparently
Not if you continually reject Christ.

but you'll miss out as you'll miss out on aspects of life during the 1 life you can be 100% sure of.
This is sort of like a drunken man saying to the soberman who has found that reality is so much greater, "yo, being drunk is so much better". This kind of talk doesn't phase a Christian.


I also talk to people on an Atheist chat room who are Christians and they talk to us about their views and it doesn't offend it's just interesting to see other peoples ideas on life, I just think a life of prejudice is a waste. We are all equals no matter what.
All lives are a waste under atheism.

Under atheism, values cease to exist. We would all be equally unvaluable.
 
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I haven't just gone to evolution without consideration of another theory and I've studied the bible and to me the logic doesn't fit not as much as the theory of evolution.

Jimmy I asked if there has been any physical appearances of God or Satan? the fact the bible says Noah was hundreds of years old and adam was 930 years old is not fact because someone scribbled it down. how do you interpret the last statement I posted from Genesis? Finally in terms of my beliefs i'm not certain of existence on other planets it could be possible i suppose.
 
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Values cease to exist you are no talking sense now I have values and standards I live by. You keep saying proof but you haven't given me any Jimmy you don't seem to grasp that and I'll keep rejecting Christ until there is proof. You may not need it to believe but I do.
 
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You haven't caused me offense but it comes across that I have offended and I'm just questioning the validity of the bible and the beliefs of Christians,
I've provided reasons to believe, it seems you have skipped over them.


you'll miss out on some aspects of life as there are rules you have to follow but you could say you don't miss what you don't have I suppose.
I don't consider them rules. I guess you can see them as that.


I'm not worried about an after life If I come to be judged then so be it all I know for certain is here and now.
You can close your eyes, and plug your ears and yell "lalalalalala I can't hear or see danger!" but it's still there.
 
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Oh yeah and on the universe being created it's amazing isn't it absolutely fantastic
Yeah, it's amazing how powerful God is.

and the fact it's taken humans millions if not billions of years to begin existence
Ah, but as you say, thats "just a theory".


and the fact we are a tiny grain of sand in this universe to inhabit life (to our knowledge) is a beautiful accident and the result of natural causes, in my opinion.
I disagree on the natural causes. God is the author of all life.
 
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but that last comment jimmy implies i already knew of the danger but chose to ignore it, where i believe there is no danger to be scared of.
 
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You may think God is the Author but I think not obviously and the Earth is older than the bible claims fossils have been found dating back before the bible mentions.
 
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I haven't just gone to evolution without consideration of another theory and I've studied the bible and to me the logic doesn't fit not as much as the theory of evolution.
Apparnetly you've not studied much, since you keep up serious inconsistancies.


Jimmy I asked if there has been any physical appearances of God or Satan?
Yes, Jesus Christ.

the fact the bible says Noah was hundreds of years old and adam was 930 years old is not fact because someone scribbled it down.
So because someone wrote it, it's false?

Ahh, yes... MY Geology textbook says the earth is 4.5 billion years old, but, alas it was written by a man and therefor can't be true.


how do you interpret the last statement I posted from Genesis?
The age of Adam? I believe he lived to be 930 years old. As scripture says.



Finally in terms of my beliefs i'm not certain of existence on other planets it could be possible i suppose.
Eh, fine-tuning.
 
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Values cease to exist you are no talking sense now I have values and standards I live by.
These would be subjective and illusory.

You keep saying proof but you haven't given me any Jimmy
Yeah I did, I listed a number of philosophical arguments for the existance of God, and a number of historical accounts of Christ's existance, as well as a number of videos that seek to prove Christ was crucified, died, and was ressurrected on the third day. It is you who refuses to read what I post, and isntead reply with flippantly strung together sentences.

you don't seem to grasp that and I'll keep rejecting Christ until there is proof.
You've ignored what I posted, earlier in this thread.



You may not need it to believe but I do.
I would not believe Christ resurrected if I did not have reason to do so. I started on your side of the fence, my friend.
 
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but that last comment jimmy implies i already knew of the danger but chose to ignore it, where i believe there is no danger to be scared of.
The bible declares that you suppress the truth in unrighteousness.