The False Teaching (& Truth) of what happens at the Rapture.

FreeGrace2 · Feb 20, 2022

FreeGrace2 said:
There is NO evidence that they received glorified bodies. The FACT that the Bible doesn't say that they did is more evidence that they didn't than that they did.

However, since Acts 26:23 says that Jesus was the first to be resurrected, which means receive a glorified body, we KNOW that NO ONE before His resurrection received a glorified body.

kleronomos said:

Why not? Have you checked your lexicon?

Strong's Concordance

prótos: first, chief

Original Word: πρῶτος, η, ον
Part of Speech: Adjective
Transliteration: prótos
Phonetic Spelling: (pro'-tos)
Definition: first, chief
Usage: first, before, principal, most important.
HELPS Word-studies
4413 prṓtos (an adjective, derived from 4253 /pró, "before, forward") – first (foremost). 4413 /prṓtos ("first, foremost") is the superlative form of 4253 /pró ("before") meaning "what comes first" (is "number one").

Why wouldn't Jesus be the FIRST ONE to receive a glorified body? The VERY FIRST ONE?

What is your point here?

No it doesn't mean that. You are just presuming that it means that. It means they are in heaven awaiting the ONE resurrection which will be "WHEN HE COMES", per 1 Cor 15:23.

So you believe that ALL OT saints have already received glorified bodies? Really?

kleronomos · Feb 20, 2022

FreeGrace2 said:

1 Corinthians 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

5001. tagma
Strong's Concordance
tagma: that which has been arranged in order, spec. a division, rank
Original Word: τάγμα, ατος, τό
Part of Speech: Noun, Neuter
Transliteration: tagma
Phonetic Spelling: (tag'-mah)
Definition: that which has been arranged in order, a division, rank
Usage: rank, division, an ordered series.
HELPS Word-studies
Cognate: 5001 tágma (a neuter noun) – an ordered arrangement, reflecting God's perfect wisdom in ordering all of creation (it only occurs in 1 Cor 15:23). See 5021 (tassō).

a. properly, that which has been arranged, thing placed in order.

b. specifically, a body of soldiers, a corps: 2 Samuel 23:13; Xenophon, mem. 3, 1, 11; often in Polybius; Diodorus 17, 80; Josephus, b. j. 1, 9, 1; 3, 4, 2; (especially for the Roman 'legio' (examples in Sophocles Lexicon, under the word, 3)); hence, universally, a band, troop, class: ἕκαστος ἐν τῷ ἰδίῳ τάγματι (the same words occur in Clement of Rome, 1 Cor. 37, 3 [ET] and 41, 1 [ET]), 1 Corinthians 15:23, where Paul specifies several distinct bands or classes of those raised from the dead (A. V. order. Of the 'order' of the Essenes in Josephus, b. j. 2, 8, 3.
division, class, group
From tasso; something orderly in arrangement (a troop), i.e. (figuratively) a series or succession -- order.

CHRIST - the HEAD, CHIEF,

And I know they say this is one of those 'rapture' words but I believe the literal meaning is a perfect description. I take it on faith.
3952. parousia
Strong's Concordance
parousia: a presence, a coming
Original Word: παρουσία, ας, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: parousia
Phonetic Spelling: (par-oo-see'-ah)
Definition: a presence, a coming
Usage: (a) presence, (b) a coming, an arrival, advent, especially of the second coming of Christ.
HELPS Word-studies
3952 parousía (from parōn, "be present, arrive to enter into a situation") – properly, coming, especially the arrival of the owner who alone can deal with a situation (cf. LS). 3952 (parousía) is a "technical term with reference to the visit of a king or some other official, 'a royal visit' " (Souter) – "hence, in the NT, specifically of the Advent or Parousia of Christ" (A-S).

[3952 (parousía) is "used in the east as a technical expression for the royal visit of a king, or emperor. The word means literally 'the being beside,' thus, 'the personal presence' " (K. Wuest, 3, Bypaths, 33).]

John 14:1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
4 And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.
5 Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way?
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

kleronomos · Feb 20, 2022

FreeGrace2 said:

Isaiah 61:1 The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;

Isaiah 61:2 To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD, AND HE STOPPED READING. THIS DAY THESE THINGS ARE FULFILLED.

TO PROCLAIM LIBERTY TO THE CAPTIVES, OPENING THE PRISONS TO THEM BOUND

Ephesians 4:8 Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.
9 (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?
10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)

THOSE WHO DIED UNDER THE LAW, WITH SIN, WERE HELD/BOUND BY DEATH.

The three days Christ was in the tomb he went to preach to them what is preached to us today. A Saviour is come and by FAITH and not perfection under the Law, THE GIFT OF SALVATION is being offered to those who believe. THOSE BELIEVED accepted the gift, had their sins forgiven THROUGH THE INFINITE VALUE OF THE BLOOD OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST, the WILLING SACRIFICE, THE LAMB OF GOD.

BEING made SIN FREE AND WASHED CLEAN, NO LONGER could 'DEATH'/THE GRAVE/HADES keep them bound.

hence, 'AND HE LED THE CAPTIVITY CAPTIVE' AND ASCENDED TO HEAVEN all them with Him.

PERSONAL SPECULATION, CONJECTURE, SUPPOSITION and has been since I first heard it is

With the death of Christ, the bondage to death (for the saved) defeated, opening of the prison of the captives and on top of all that salvation being opened to whomsoever would along with the sending of the Holy Spirit is what led to the WAR IN HEAVEN.

This is why it was all kept secret from the beginning. Had Satan known all the changes that would take place with the 'BRUISING OF HIS HEEL' he would not have allowed Christ to be killed. He lost a ton of power that day either way.

and the day of vengeance of our God;

to comfort all that mourn;

Isaiah 61:3 To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, to give unto them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they might be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the LORD, that He might be glorified.

Isaiah 61:4 And they shall build the old wastes, they shall raise up the former desolations, and they shall repair the waste cities, the desolations of many generations.

Isaiah 61:5 And strangers shall stand and feed your flocks, and the sons of the alien shall be your plowmen and your vinedressers.

Isaiah 61:6 But ye shall be named the Priests of the LORD: men shall call you the Ministers of our God: ye shall eat the riches of the Gentiles, and in their glory shall ye boast yourselves.

kleronomos · Feb 20, 2022

FreeGrace2 said:

HE WASN'T OFF SLEEPING/DEATH WAITING FOR THE 'LAST DAY' SO HE HAD TO HAVE RESURRECTED AND SINCE CHRIST HADN'T DIED YET .....

kleronomos · Feb 20, 2022

FreeGrace2 said:

ABSOLUTELY

FreeGrace2 · Feb 20, 2022

kleronomos said:

You are really trying to make 1 Cor 15:23 not mean what it so clearly says.

New International Version
But each in turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him.
New Living Translation
But there is an order to this resurrection: Christ was raised as the first of the harvest; then all who belong to Christ will be raised when he comes back.
English Standard Version
But each in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, then at his coming those who belong to Christ.
Berean Study Bible
But each in his own turn: Christ the firstfruits; then at His coming, those who belong to Him.
Berean Literal Bible
But each in the own order: Christ the firstfruit, then those of Christ at His coming,
King James Bible
But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
King James Bible
But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
New King James Version
But each one in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who are Christ’s at His coming.
New American Standard Bible
But each in his own order: Christ the first fruits, after that those who are Christ’s at His coming,

This is a sampling of various translations.

We see really only 2 'orders', if you will. Christ, the first One, and rightly called "the firstfruit". Then we have 'those who belong to Him', 'those of Christ', 'they that are of Christ's', 'who are Christ's' next.

There's no way to make this an ongoing resurrection, over time, as it seems you are promoting.

And Acts 26:23 is really clear. Jesus was the FIRST to rise from the dead. That has to mean received a resurrection (glorified) body.

And that is supported directly by 1 Cor 15:23.

I've already given you the multiple verses that make clear there is ONE resurrection for the saved. That means they ALL get resurrected at the same time. Not over a period of a long time.

And the resurrection of Trib martyrs in Rev 20:5 is called the FIRST resurrection. That would be the ONE for the saved, as opposed to the one for the unsaved, which will occur 1,000 years later and is the call to the GWT judgment.

kleronomos · Feb 20, 2022

FreeGrace2 said:

WHY NOT? YOU ARE AND YOU HAVE NO BASIS FOR THE DEAD RISING AND STICKING AROUND FOR THE NEXT 2000 YEARS. OR THEY WOULD HAVE TO DIE TWICE. THAT WOULD VOID THE WORD OF GOD SO THAT ISN'T POSSIBLE. CHRIST WALKED AROUND IN HIS GLORIFIED BODY FOR DAYS AND THEN ASCENDED.

MAYBE THEY BECAME A PART OF THE CAPTIVITY LED CAPTIVE AND ONLY WALKED AROUND FOR 3 DAYS. I don't know but I do know they were raised in glorified bodies BECAUSE THERE IS NO OTHER POSSIBILITY.

RAISED IN GLORY. THAT IS HOW THEY RISE UP. DOES IT SAY ANYWHERE 'AND SAINTS DO NOT ALWAYS RISE IN GLORY'? OR ANYTHING THAT WOULD LEAD US TO BELIEVE THEY ROSE A DIFFERENT WAY , SOMETHING THAT IS WRITTEN?

I AM JUST LOOKING FOR SCRIPTURE FROM YOU. AND NOT THE ONE THAT CAN'T SAY WHAT YOU THINK IT SAYS.

kleronomos · Feb 20, 2022

FreeGrace2 said:

You are really trying to make 1 Cor 15:23 not mean what it so clearly says.

New International Version
But each in turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him.
New Living Translation
But there is an order to this resurrection: Christ was raised as the first of the harvest; then all who belong to Christ will be raised when he comes back.
English Standard Version
But each in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, then at his coming those who belong to Christ.
Berean Study Bible
But each in his own turn: Christ the firstfruits; then at His coming, those who belong to Him.
Berean Literal Bible
But each in the own order: Christ the firstfruit, then those of Christ at His coming,
King James Bible
But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
King James Bible
But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
New King James Version
But each one in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who are Christ’s at His coming.
New American Standard Bible
But each in his own order: Christ the first fruits, after that those who are Christ’s at His coming,

This is a sampling of various translations.

We see really only 2 'orders', if you will. Christ, the first One, and rightly called "the firstfruit". Then we have 'those who belong to Him', 'those of Christ', 'they that are of Christ's', 'who are Christ's' next.

There's no way to make this an ongoing resurrection, over time, as it seems you are promoting.

And Acts 26:23 is really clear. Jesus was the FIRST to rise from the dead. That has to mean received a resurrection (glorified) body.

And that is supported directly by 1 Cor 15:23.

I've already given you the multiple verses that make clear there is ONE resurrection for the saved. That means they ALL get resurrected at the same time. Not over a period of a long time.

And the resurrection of Trib martyrs in Rev 20:5 is called the FIRST resurrection. That would be the ONE for the saved, as opposed to the one for the unsaved, which will occur 1,000 years later and is the call to the GWT judgment.

AGAIN, NO YOU HAVEN'T. I have showed you the meaning of the word ORDER isn't what you think it is.

AND IF REV 20:5 IS CALLED THE FIRST RESURRECTION THEN CHRIST COULDN'T HAVE BEEN THE FIRST COULD HE?

kleronomos · Feb 20, 2022

FreeGrace2 said:

YES, DID YOU READ THE POST?

Usage: first, before, principal, most important.

Absolutely · Feb 20, 2022

kleronomos said:

Revelation 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; AND HE SENT AND SIGNIFIED IT BY HIS ANGEL UNTO HIS SERVANT JOHN
2 Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw.
3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.
4 John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;
5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,
6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

7 Behold, He cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
ARE YOU SAYING YOU BELIEVE THIS HAPPENED AND JESUS CAME TO PATMOS? IF SO THEN EVERY EYE WOULD HAVE SEEN HIM. NOT TO MENTION WE HAVE BEEN TOLD THIS MESSAGE

AND HE SENT AND SIGNIFIED IT BY HIS ANGEL UNTO HIS SERVANT JOHN. We don't get to skip over the parts we don't like. We don't get to change what is said to fit our doctrines. WE NEED to change our doctrines to FIT WHAT IS WRITTEN.

8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

9 I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.

TO BAD HE WASN'T IN THE FINAL GENERATION AS HE OBVIOUSLY WOULD BE WILLING TO STAND FOR THE WORD OF GOD AND FOR THE TESTIMONY OF JESUS CHRIST.

10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,

AGAIN, AND HE SENT AND SIGNIFIED IT BY HIS ANGEL UNTO HIS SERVANT JOHN. There is no more and there is no less there is only this truth.

11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.
12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks
13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.
16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.
17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:
18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.
19 Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter;
20 The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.

Rev 1
12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;

13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.

Jesus talking to John on Patmos.
Stop changing and reframing what happened.
It is there for anyone to see.

FreeGrace2 · Feb 20, 2022

FreeGrace2 said:
I don't see relevance to the resurrection.

kleronomos said:

I have a study Bible with underlining for the words of the LORD or the words of Jesus. Isa 61 has no underlining in the text, which means that the words were from Isaiah himself, and it was he who was "annointed to preach the good news".

[QUOTE]THOSE WHO DIED UNDER THE LAW, WITH SIN, WERE HELD/BOUND BY DEATH. [/QUOTE]
I don't understand your point here. The fact is that every human being who died in the OT went to Hades. The saved went to the compartment called "Paradise" or "Abraham's Bosom" and the unsaved when to the compartment commonly refered to as "Torments".

So whether a human being died 'under the law' or not is immaterial. ALL people in the OT went to Hades.

Oh, wow, is this screwed up. Salvation has ALWAYS been by grace through faith. No one could fulfill the Law, other than Jesus alone.

What we don't know for sure is to whom exactly Jesus "preached" to. Could have been an emphasis to the saved people that they are saved by faith in the coming Messiah. It could have been to the unsaved, to inform them WHY they are in Torments. Or it could have been to the chained fallen angels, also held in Hades, in a compartment called Tartarus. The message could have been that they are where they are because of their own choices.

Being "washed clean" is a phrase that describes the new birth or being regenerated. Titus 3:5

I have no idea who you think Jesus took with Him, but what is obvious is that He led ALL the saved people in Paradise to heaven. Where they are to this day, and will be until Jesus comes back, with them, and gives them glorified bodies.

Do you have Scripture for any of this?

What, exactly, was kep secret from the beginning?

Speculation. We don't really know what Satan was thinking or is thinking, other than deceiving the whole world, and ruling the whole world.

FreeGrace2 · Feb 20, 2022

FreeGrace2 said:
o you believe that ALL OT saints have already received glorified bodies? Really?

kleronomos said:

That violates 1 Cor 15:23 directly. This verse is too clear for such a conclusion.

FreeGrace2 · Feb 20, 2022

FreeGrace2 said:
What is your point here?

kleronomos said:

I still don't understand your point.

FreeGrace2 · Feb 20, 2022

kleronomos said:

Sure did. Why did you type the ORDER so small and the secondary meaning so BIG?

The fact is clear that Jesus received His glorified body FIRST, befor any other human being. I find that clear from the verses I've shared.

And 1 Cor 15:23 shows just 2 "orders"; Jesus FIRST and then "those who belong to Him".

I don't know why or how you are able to ignore such clear wording.

Jesus was FIRST to get a glorified body, and then, "when He comes" "those who belong to Him" get theirs.

That is what 1 Cor 15:23 says.

FreeGrace2 · Feb 20, 2022

FreeGrace2 said:
Matt 27:52,53
And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.

So, they "arose...and went into the holy city" (Jerusalem). Nothing about rising to heaven.

Let's not assume/presume.

kleronomos said:

Because the Bible is clear enough that we don't have to. If any human being received a glorified body before Jesus did, it would have said so. Why not?

I don't know what this means. Actually, you have no basis for presuming any human receives a glorified body before Jesus did.

So what? I have explained where your problem is with heb 9:27. You seem to think it says "appointed to die ONLY once". It doesn't say that. It says "appointed to die once". That doesn't mean there can't be exceptions.

And the living believers "when He comes" WON'T experience physical death EVER, so there you are.

Of course He did. But a human who dies phyically twice doesn't "void the Word of God".

You don't know that at all. You are only PRESUMING. I have given you other possibilities. You are reading Heb 9:27 WRONGLY.

I have no idea what you are saying here.
Being "raised in glory" means being resurrected AND given a glorified body. And that WILL occur "when He comes" from 1 Cor 15:23, which refutes your theories.

FreeGrace2 · Feb 20, 2022

kleronomos said:

It can mean 2 things. First one listed (meaning the most commonly used one) is first in line. The second is about ranking.

Of course He could. His was so special His was described as "firstfruits".

And you are proving my charge about you trying to make 1 Cor 15:23 NOT mean what is clearly is saying.

Absolutely · Feb 20, 2022

kleronomos said:

It is a pleasure to bring truth into your world of OMISSION.

KINDA LIKE;
rev 14
1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.
2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:
3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.
4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.
5 And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.

I totally understand your investment in what you have OMITTED and reframed.
I feel for you that you need to pervert the book of revelation.

"....were redeemed from the earth...."
Your reframe job;
" I showed you they are on earth."

Comical and desperado.

You have no standing at all.
None

kleronomos · Feb 20, 2022

FreeGrace2 said:

THAT would suffer the Christ as first through resurrection from dead light He is about to preach to both our people and to the Gentiles

3805. pathétos ►
Strong's Concordance
pathétos: one who has suffered or is subject to suffering
Original Word: παθητός, ή, όν
Part of Speech: Adjective
Transliteration: pathétos
Phonetic Spelling: (path-ay-tos')
Definition: one who has suffered or is subject to suffering
Usage: destined to suffer.
HELPS Word-studies
Cognate: 3805 pathētós (an adjective, derived from 3958/pasxō, "to experience strong feeling, such as suffering") – properly, "passable, i.e. endued with the capacity of suffering, capable of feeling" (J. Thayer).

1487. ei ►
Strong's Concordance
ei: forasmuch as, if, that
Original Word: εἰ
Part of Speech: Conditional Particle Or Conjunction
Transliteration: ei
Phonetic Spelling: (i)
Definition: forasmuch as, if, that
Usage: if.
HELPS Word-studies
1487 ei (a conditional conjunction) – if. 1487 /ei (followed by any verb) expresses "a condition, thought of as real, or to denote assumptions" (i.e. viewed as factual. for the sake of argument) (BAGD). Accordingly, 1487 (ei) should not be translated "since," but rather always "if" – since the assumption may only be portrayed as valid (true, factual).

4413. prótos ►
Strong's Concordance
prótos: first, chief
Original Word: πρῶτος, η, ον
Part of Speech: Adjective
Transliteration: prótos
Phonetic Spelling: (pro'-tos)
Definition: first, chief
Usage: first, before, principal, most important.
HELPS Word-studies
4413 prṓtos (an adjective, derived from 4253 /pró, "before, forward") – first (foremost). 4413 /prṓtos ("first, foremost") is the superlative form of 4253 /pró ("before") meaning "what comes first" (is "number one").

3498. nekros ►
Strong's Concordance
nekros: dead
Original Word: νεκρός, ά, όν
Part of Speech: Adjective
Transliteration: nekros
Phonetic Spelling: (nek-ros')
Definition: dead
Usage: (a) adj: dead, lifeless, subject to death, mortal, (b) noun: a dead body, a corpse.
HELPS Word-studies
3498 nekrós (an adjective, derived from nekys, "a corpse, a dead body") – dead; literally, "what lacks life"; dead; (figuratively) not able to respond to impulses, or perform functions ("unable, ineffective, dead, powerless," L & N, 1, 74.28); unresponsive to life-giving influences (opportunities); inoperative to the things of God.

3498 /nekrós ("corpse-like") is used as a noun in certain contexts ("the dead"), especially when accompanied by the Greek definite article. The phrase, ek nekron ("from the dead"), lacks the Greek article to give the sense "from what is of death."

3195. melló ►
Strong's Concordance
melló: to be about to
Original Word: μέλλω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: melló
Phonetic Spelling: (mel'-lo)
Definition: to be about to
Usage: I intend, am about to; I delay, linger.
HELPS Word-studies
3195 méllō – properly, at the very point of acting; ready, "about to happen." 3195 (méllō) is used "in general of what is sure to happen" (J. Thayer).

Absolutely said:

Revelation 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

kleronomos · Feb 20, 2022

FreeGrace2 said:

Luke 4:17 And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,

Luke 4:18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,

Luke 4:19 To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.

Luke 4:20 And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him.

Luke 4:21 And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears.

kleronomos · Feb 20, 2022

FreeGrace2 said:

You can't have people sleeping/dead in the grave while at the same time on the mount of transfiguration. EITHER Moses was resurrected or He is sleeping in the grave. We can't make up our own laws.

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