Biblical meaning of mind and heart

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2ndTimothyGroup

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of course I’ve obviously mercilessly attacked you again …
Think about my position, here. You're not happy with what I write, and then you're not happy with my desire to simply let it go. You have painted me into a corner in which I cannot find any form of success.
 

Pilgrimshope

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But I've been associating with you for nearly one year. Nothing that I have believed, or written, has changed in position. Why keep going round and round? And now you're flippant again, though I have patiently posted the same things over . . . and over . . . and over again.

Clearly, there is nothing that I can say to you that will make a difference. So please . . . stop acting like I'm being unfair. To suggest anything of the like is gradeschool.
lol you commented to me didn’t you ? I think I’ve avoided you for awhile now but if you comment to me I’m probably gonna reply .

Anyways though I’m gonna move on ……………again because i don’t want to “ victimize” you anymore I’ll let whoever you speak to next that doesn’t agree be the one who’s victimizing you
 

Pilgrimshope

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Think about my position, here. You're not happy with what I write, and then you're not happy with my desire to simply let it go. You have painted me into a corner in which I cannot find any form of success.
I have no opinion of what you wrote you commented to me that no one gets it but you and no one will listen to you ….. I don’t even know what you actually believe because your usually claiming people constantly attack you

if you have any interest in discussing your opinions about scripture I’m always open whether I agree or not but yeah honestly it gets annoying always listening to how everyone here attacks you because no one does.
 

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lol you commented to me didn’t you ? I think I’ve avoided you for awhile now but if you comment to me I’m probably gonna reply .
Perhaps. I don't recall, as you're not the only person I reply to, here.

Anyways though I’m gonna move on ……………again because i don’t want to “ victimize” you anymore I’ll let whoever you speak to next that doesn’t agree be the one who’s victimizing you
I don't feel like a victim of you. But once again, you're being flippant and childish. I've never told anyone that I am a "victim." Those are your words. And I agree . . . move on and stop being triggered by me. Certainly, I am not so important for you to become so unhinged.
 

Pilgrimshope

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Perhaps. I don't recall, as you're not the only person I reply to, here.



I don't feel like a victim of you. But once again, you're being flippant and childish. I've never told anyone that I am a "victim." Those are your words. And I agree . . . move on and stop being triggered by me. Certainly, I am not so important for you to become so unhinged.
it’s pretty easy to look on this thread and see that I hadn’t said anything to you and you then said this in response to a post made to someone else

“To date, no one has ever been able to explain the Gospel to me.
I've never heard it in church . . . christians are utter failures in exp;lain the Gospel. They can describe it, but they cannot explain it. Perhaps this is why no one knocks on my door; talks about the Gospel in church.

The Gospel is totally misunderstood. It is, for the most part, void of this world.”

I responded to you . But this as usual has become fruitless you can let others “ attack “ you I’d rather discuss with other people the gospel that’s in scripture

I haven’t commented to you since you asked me not to awhile ago this is nonsense so I’m gonna move on ….again

be blessed
 

Pilgrimshope

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You don't see the attacks because you engage in it. You're one of the aggressors, not me.
yeah I know everyone attacks you by not agreeing with you on every point I get it I hope you find some comfort
 

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What do you mean by "cop out"? That makes absolutely no sense to me, as I am the author of those words. "Cop out" can only come through a judgement of my thoughts, and as a Christian, you are not given the authority to determine my thoughts.

So, what's your problem?
I refer only to the expression, "core doctrine," which has been used by more individuals than you . Who is detrining your thoughts or reading them? Not I.

Now are you saying I have not business having an opinion on the use of a word whthat is not used int eh Word, such as core doctrine or core belief? If so you must give me your Bible dictionary so I may learn from it, because mine does not have that expression held within.

There is but One Gospel, and that is the one given us by Jesus Yeshua.
 

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I refer only to the expression, "core doctrine," which has been used by more individuals than you . Who is detrining your thoughts or reading them? Not I.

Now are you saying I have not business having an opinion on the use of a word whthat is not used int eh Word, such as core doctrine or core belief? If so you must give me your Bible dictionary so I may learn from it, because mine does not have that expression held within.

There is but One Gospel, and that is the one given us by Jesus Yeshua.
I'm sorry, JaumeJ . . . I really don't know how to reply to what you've written. I am completely uninterested in going down emotional rabbit holes.
 

JaumeJ

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emotional rabbit holes.
Is this another of your additions to reality? I think you should think and perhaps ask the Lord before laying blame and labels on things and people before affronting others.

As I have read in you trumped up arguments with others, you love to play the victim. Sorry, I had not kow this until reading your interaction with others. It seems when you cannot reason with another your emotion taks over. God bless you and try to just have dialogue with others here in the forums and not conflict.
 

2ndTimothyGroup

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Is this another of your additions to reality?
I don't know what this means.

I think you should think and perhaps ask the Lord before laying blame and labels on things and people before affronting others.
My vernacular reflects the verbiage of the Apostles, not that I am one. Perhaps you folks are being a little sensitive? Good grief, Paul spoke a lot about how to prove oneself and downright flamed the Galatians and Corinthians.

As I have read in you trumped up arguments with others, you love to play the victim.
A bit backward, and others, like yourself right now, are expressing that you're a victim of me, otherwise you wouldn't be coming after me as you are right now.

It seems when you cannot reason with another your emotion taks over.
You couldn't have judged my heart any more incorrectly. If you were to see my face and hear my voice (instead of imaging them), you'd judge otherwise.

God bless you and try to just have dialogue with others here in the forums and not conflict.
You're kidding, right? It's you people that are upset with the things that I have to say. Isn't that being proven right now?
 

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It wasn’t until the fourth century when Hippocrates believed the brain was the seat of intelligence that it wasn’t considered common knowledge that the heart is where thought came from. When the men who wrote the words God inspired them to write wrote the words translated as heart in scripture they thought they were writing about the mind.

What do you think the Lord means us to know when we are told about the heart in scripture?

We are told to guard our heart:

Proverbs 4:23-26 says, “Keep your heart with all vigilance, for from it flow the springs of life. Put away from you crooked speech, and put devious talk far from you. Let your eyes look directly forward, and your gaze be straight before you. Ponder the path of your feet; then all your ways will be sure.”

We are also told to watch what we let in our minds:

Phil. 4:8 Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things.
it is very interesting. The word of God is written in Hebrew and Greek primarily.

Hebrew deals with the heart.

Greek deals with the mind.
 

JaumeJ

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Wow, I have never heard such boasting in all my days. You seem to thingk I came in here after you. If you re-examine the beginning of our conversation here, you will see it all began with my not personally caring for the term, core believ, and you began systematically making me being too emotional or too sanative to simply except that term as something spiritually valid.

I did say, and I repeat there is no need to stress any doctrine as being CORE if we read and believe the Gospel of Jesus Yeshua.

If I ell you I love you, you would not believe me. If Itell you you are overdoing a term of man, I am being emotional.
I do not feel victimized nor emotional about any of the above, but I do smell hypocrisy in the air.
 

Pilgrimshope

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Wow, I have never heard such boasting in all my days. You seem to thingk I came in here after you. If you re-examine the beginning of our conversation here, you will see it all began with my not personally caring for the term, core believ, and you began systematically making me being too emotional or too sanative to simply except that term as something spiritually valid.

I did say, and I repeat there is no need to stress any doctrine as being CORE if we read and believe the Gospel of Jesus Yeshua.

If I ell you I love you, you would not believe me. If Itell you you are overdoing a term of man, I am being emotional.
I do not feel victimized nor emotional about any of the above, but I do smell hypocrisy in the air.
amen

“Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God.

He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.

If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:”
‭‭2 John‬ ‭1:9-10‬ ‭

because that’s Gods doctrine

Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me. If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.”
‭‭John‬ ‭7:16-17‬ ‭KJV‬‬
 

2ndTimothyGroup

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Wow, I have never heard such boasting in all my days.
I have no idea of what you're talking about.

If you re-examine the beginning of our conversation here, you will see it all began with my not personally caring for the term, core believ, and you began systematically making me being too emotional or too sanative to simply except that term as something spiritually valid.
You're kidding me, right? You accused me of being too emotional. Can't even make this stuff up. lol

I did say, and I repeat there is no need to stress any doctrine as being CORE if we read and believe the Gospel of Jesus Yeshua.
Okie Doke. You're calling the shots.

If I ell you I love you, you would not believe me.
Well, it sounds like you've got me all figured out.

I do not feel victimized nor emotional about any of the above, but I do smell hypocrisy in the air.
This makes no sense to me.

Unbelievable.
 
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To date, no one has ever been able to explain the Gospel to me. I've never heard it in church . . . christians are utter failures in exp;lain the Gospel. They can describe it, but they cannot explain it. Perhaps this is why no one knocks on my door; talks about the Gospel in church. The Gospel is totally misunderstood. It is, for the most part, void of this world.


How utterly at odds is your tone and statement with the love & peace of Jesus Christ!

Have you been to the cross and repented and asked for your sins forgiveness?

Since you appear to me as whimpy,I'm gonna call you Tiny Tim!

Eat meat,leave the milk for the babies.
 

2ndTimothyGroup

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How utterly at odds is your tone and statement with the love & peace of Jesus Christ!

Have you been to the cross and repented and asked for your sins forgiveness?

Since you appear to me as whimpy,I'm gonna call you Tiny Tim!

Eat meat,leave the milk for the babies.
Unbelievable.