Richman I understand the internet allows cowards to be rude however i would expect better in a Christian chat room, I am curious where you went to seminary. Om addition Jesus said the generation would noy pass till destruction of Jerusalem. Which was said between AD 30 and 33, Many say Matthew and Revelation work together in this prophecy. I know reading the Greek can be hard but I think my conclusions are based on scholarly research. i do not see evidence that proves either way conclusively, Have a pleasant weekend and keep Ukraine in your prayers
Revelation 2:8-11 test your church
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Attending seminary is not necessary to understand Scripture.
Reading the Greek is not necessary to understand Scripture.
Disagreeing with you does not make one a coward or rude.
I believe your scholarly research is flawed.
I agree that Jesus prophesy about the destruction of Jerusalem before the generation He was speaking to, was fulfilled in 70 AD.
But to say all He prophesied that would come and all He revealed in His revelation to John was also fulfilled is not true and to believe so proves your scholarly research is flawed.
I stand by my original statement.
Reading the Greek is not necessary to understand Scripture.
Disagreeing with you does not make one a coward or rude.
I believe your scholarly research is flawed.
I agree that Jesus prophesy about the destruction of Jerusalem before the generation He was speaking to, was fulfilled in 70 AD.
But to say all He prophesied that would come and all He revealed in His revelation to John was also fulfilled is not true and to believe so proves your scholarly research is flawed.
I stand by my original statement.
I am sorry I have not gotten back to you sooner because this is a very good question and an important one.
No that is something altogether different. In Luke 21 Jesus is on the Mt of Olives alone with His disciples. Jesus has gone through some of the early singes of the end times. Verse 13. It shall turn to you for a testimony.
You are going to have to speak give a very special testimony at a very special for a very special reason if you are chosen to do so. Not all will be.
Verse 14 Settle it therefore in your hearts, not to meditate before what you shall answer:
Jesus is telling us not to thank about what we are going to say if we are called to do this. We will find out why here soon.
Verse 15. For I will give you a mouth of wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.
For I: who is talking here it is Jesus, He is going to give you a mouth to speak. He is going to allow the Holy Spirit to speak through you. Just like what happened on Pentcost Day in Acts. The Holy Spirit will do all the talking for you. Your mouth moving His words coming out. This is why He told you in verse 14 not to meditate about what you were going to say. {My thanking If you did try and speak your own words that would be denning Jesus which is the unpardonable sin no one has committed it yet and I don't thank Jesus would use anyone that would not let Him speak through them.} Let me say it again my words no scripture to back it up.
Which all your adversaries: what adversaries the ones that brought you to this kangaroo court.
Shall not be able to gainsay nor resist: Gainsay #471 Strong's Greek dictionary: To refute or deny. They are going to be dumbfounded at the wisdom that comes out of your mouth.
Verse 16. And you shall be betrayed both my parents, and brothers, and kinfolk, and friends; and some of you they shall cause to be put to death.
Do not worry it is not as bad as it sounds when you understand it. Remember when all this is taking place Satan has returned and is seated in the holy place calming to be God. So all these people that are betraying you, they thank they are doing a good thing. Satan comes at the 6th trump just before Jesus return calming to be Christ and there are a lot of good people out there that thank they are good Christians and doing the right thing by bringing you to their "jesus" The instead of jesus Satan saying O Please help my Grace And peace she doesn't thank you are jesus; What does Hebrews tell us is one of Satan's names? Death. They are not wanting you to be killed physically they are spiritually.
Verse 17. And you shall be hated of all men for my names sake.
All men that don't love Jesus.
Verse 18. But there shall not a hair of your head parish.
GLORY BE TO GOD!! He is able to keep you and protect you at all times. We are safe in the arms of our Savior Jesus Christ.
Verse 19. In your patience possess ye your souls. What words of grace, hope, and love. All we have to do is patiently wait on Him and we will possess eternal life, our immortal souls.
No that is something altogether different. In Luke 21 Jesus is on the Mt of Olives alone with His disciples. Jesus has gone through some of the early singes of the end times. Verse 13. It shall turn to you for a testimony.
You are going to have to speak give a very special testimony at a very special for a very special reason if you are chosen to do so. Not all will be.
Verse 14 Settle it therefore in your hearts, not to meditate before what you shall answer:
Jesus is telling us not to thank about what we are going to say if we are called to do this. We will find out why here soon.
Verse 15. For I will give you a mouth of wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.
For I: who is talking here it is Jesus, He is going to give you a mouth to speak. He is going to allow the Holy Spirit to speak through you. Just like what happened on Pentcost Day in Acts. The Holy Spirit will do all the talking for you. Your mouth moving His words coming out. This is why He told you in verse 14 not to meditate about what you were going to say. {My thanking If you did try and speak your own words that would be denning Jesus which is the unpardonable sin no one has committed it yet and I don't thank Jesus would use anyone that would not let Him speak through them.} Let me say it again my words no scripture to back it up.
Which all your adversaries: what adversaries the ones that brought you to this kangaroo court.
Shall not be able to gainsay nor resist: Gainsay #471 Strong's Greek dictionary: To refute or deny. They are going to be dumbfounded at the wisdom that comes out of your mouth.
Verse 16. And you shall be betrayed both my parents, and brothers, and kinfolk, and friends; and some of you they shall cause to be put to death.
Do not worry it is not as bad as it sounds when you understand it. Remember when all this is taking place Satan has returned and is seated in the holy place calming to be God. So all these people that are betraying you, they thank they are doing a good thing. Satan comes at the 6th trump just before Jesus return calming to be Christ and there are a lot of good people out there that thank they are good Christians and doing the right thing by bringing you to their "jesus" The instead of jesus Satan saying O Please help my Grace And peace she doesn't thank you are jesus; What does Hebrews tell us is one of Satan's names? Death. They are not wanting you to be killed physically they are spiritually.
Verse 17. And you shall be hated of all men for my names sake.
All men that don't love Jesus.
Verse 18. But there shall not a hair of your head parish.
GLORY BE TO GOD!! He is able to keep you and protect you at all times. We are safe in the arms of our Savior Jesus Christ.
Verse 19. In your patience possess ye your souls. What words of grace, hope, and love. All we have to do is patiently wait on Him and we will possess eternal life, our immortal souls.
I think there are some good lessons we can draw from these and obviously they are all scriptural truth, but this part of Revelation is to Seven specific churches. Typically the church is viewed as a unified body of Christ, but we see here that it's possible to be divided at least geographically and possibly spiritually as well.
Therefore, a synagogue of Satan is a church in name only and is only identified as as a church so the reader understands that this church congregation isn't really a church of Christ at all; these are cults, secular gatherings, and other religions.
Some of the metrics you're using to apply to a modern day church just don't literally apply. For example, many Christians will not be in prison or face tribulation for 10 consecutive days. Actually many people seem to have rather pampered lives, even non-believers can live a life of relative comfort, safety, and ease.
Nowadays, it's still difficult to go to jail for just existing as a Christian, at least in Western countries. However, that is quickly changing. It took a lot of martyrdom and jailtime to get to where we are now.
Therefore, a synagogue of Satan is a church in name only and is only identified as as a church so the reader understands that this church congregation isn't really a church of Christ at all; these are cults, secular gatherings, and other religions.
Some of the metrics you're using to apply to a modern day church just don't literally apply. For example, many Christians will not be in prison or face tribulation for 10 consecutive days. Actually many people seem to have rather pampered lives, even non-believers can live a life of relative comfort, safety, and ease.
Nowadays, it's still difficult to go to jail for just existing as a Christian, at least in Western countries. However, that is quickly changing. It took a lot of martyrdom and jailtime to get to where we are now.