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AnandaHya

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always the optimist Abiding?

here's a latte while you wait....

 

zone

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Wheres your proof then? I Also believe theres ample proof from scripture and history that supports my view.
history?
ok.

if possible then if you could list the names of 1900 years worth of apostles and prophets by name PLUS what they revealed during that time, and where we would find it....kinda important info isn't it?

as for the charismatic manifestations, those were condemned already with Montanus and his antics. what we see today is NEW (or some call it neo-montanism)

so i gotta see (NOT IN JOEL) where it says God is going to raise up new breed of ....you know the spiel.....

Latter Rain, Joel's Army etc etc
 
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AnandaHya

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What i would like to know is if God stop leading Lifelike to witnessing about Jesus before or after he joined his new church family of prophets and apostles (he mentioned he doesn't do it as much as he did as a new believer)

I would like to hear more of how Jesus lead him to accept Him as Lord and savior

and what that really means to him and why he believes that the people in his church are prophets and apostles.

I was wondering did the church you belong to now the same one who lead you to Christ to begin with, Lifelike?
 

zone

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Hey, Were did VW go? Guess ill wait...surely he will find time to give some facts and not avoid questions.
He knows our instructions are to test all things. So he will answer soon.
he said the spirit told him he didn't have to answer critics.
 
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Abiding

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:(.................................hows it go?.........................then dont say anything at all?
 

zone

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:(.................................hows it go?.........................then dont say anything at all?
no, they get to prophesy anything they want, and we are supposed to say A-men!

but NO criticisms and no testing. that's when the threats of the unpardonable sin and stuff come out.

they tell us what the Lord is thinking from one minute to the next and we have to shape up (seems like something bad is coming and they have a big role to play but we don't get to know what it is).

what-evah:rolleyes:
 
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Laodicea

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In the old testament there were 12 tribes from the 12 sons of Israel, there were 12 apostles in the NT and there will be 12 x 12,000 from spiritual Israel in the end times. Just an interesting point

 
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eternally-gratefull

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In the old testament there were 12 tribes from the 12 sons of Israel, there were 12 apostles in the NT and there will be 12 x 12,000 from spiritual Israel in the end times. Just an interesting point
Yet scripture says these 144000 come from literal isreal. Not spiritual isreal. Spiritual isreal comes through the tribe of judah, which is where Christ came from. So if was just spiritual israel. it would say 144000 from Judah and even then would be conjecture at best.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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he said the spirit told him he didn't have to answer critics.
lol, does not paul say to give an answer in season and out of season? They really deny scripture don't they?

ps. I will get to your earlier post tomorrow when I have more time.
 
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silverwind

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no, they get to prophesy anything they want, and we are supposed to say A-men!

but NO criticisms and no testing. that's when the threats of the unpardonable sin and stuff come out.

they tell us what the Lord is thinking from one minute to the next and we have to shape up (seems like something bad is coming and they have a big role to play but we don't get to know what it is).

what-evah:rolleyes:
I say a big AMEN to the blue sky today, did you notice it zone? not a single cloud, no chemtrails.. i think they ran out, PTL!!

;) SW
 
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AnandaHya

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In the old testament there were 12 tribes from the 12 sons of Israel, there were 12 apostles in the NT and there will be 12 x 12,000 from spiritual Israel in the end times. Just an interesting point


Revelations 7
9 After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands, 10 and crying out with a loud voice, saying, “Salvation belongs to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!”
 
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Necto

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What are my beliefs?...dont remember ever discussing them with you.

And really.....dont act like your being falsely treated.

Your the one who goes on and on how the bible is only the words and not Jesus...like da...

Or how most christians are using the bible only, and without the Spirit...like we are suppossed to think youve gone over the world watching and examining
people through a long period. And have some supernatural gift of assessment.

You become lovingly intollerant when it comes to answering questions that will put light to the fog of what you claim.

For instance when i first got here and every sence then ive continued to ask you how you aquire prophecies, by an audible voice? or by instant
thoughts, or by automatic writing. And you answer by going off on something else.

And again for the 3rd time at least..you really need to cut back on your presumptions and dialogue with questions and answers and facts.

So if I dont seem trusting toward you or have a bit of intollerance then its becuase I think you waffle and whine and continue...but never put your cards on the table.
Pompous nonsense!
 
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Necto

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those passages just dispense with the idea that the word and the Spirit are separable. they're not.
i don't care if somebody's been a christian for a thousand years:D, they are inseparable.

and neither one requires a literal voice.
You zone remained unanswered! God speaks through the Holy Spirit or not? You evade an answer! You can not erase all of Scripture where the Spirit says to the believers! Or, you can not explain these places, where clearly visible fact of speaking of the Spirit?
 
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Necto

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AnandaHya ! I beg you, do not be a mediator, you do not look like a peacemaker!
 
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AnandaHya

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AnandaHya ! I beg you, do not be a mediator, you do not look like a peacemaker!
I'm not a mediator or a peacemaker. I'm simply quoting scripture. you can ignore the words if you like.

Christ is the only mediator needed.

Matthew 10:34
“Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword.

Hebrews 4:12
For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.


I do not believe in peace in anything but God's love which I see is greatly lacking in the forums this morning.
 
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AnandaHya

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Pompous nonsense!
so Necto is this in defense of VW?

is he no longer able to answer for himself?

are you one of his disciples or sons?
 

zone

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I say a big AMEN to the blue sky today, did you notice it zone? not a single cloud, no chemtrails.. i think they ran out, PTL!!

;) SW
oh i know SW....last week we had 3 straight days of oppressive low hanging cover. tornados in sountern alberta! HUH? LOL
everybody was sick.

looks better now though.

these guys are just sickos. wonder if they've got what they need for bluebeam yet.

Come Lord Jesus....
 
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Laodicea

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Yet scripture says these 144000 come from literal isreal. Not spiritual isreal. Spiritual isreal comes through the tribe of judah, which is where Christ came from. So if was just spiritual israel. it would say 144000 from Judah and even then would be conjecture at best.

In the literal sense Jesus came from Judah But in the Spiritual sense He is Israel and we are children of Israel. The 12 tribes have 12 different characteristics

Matthew 2:15
(15) And was there until the death of Herod: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Out of Egypt have I called my son.
Hosea 11:1
(1) When Israel was a child, then I loved him, and called my son out of Egypt.
 
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AnandaHya

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Necto:

can you tell me if you see another option besides the one VW has outline concerning salvation and God's plan for His chosen people in response to when God pricks our heart whenever we sin?

Originally Posted by VW

But if we know Him at all, if we have His nature in any degree at all, then we will be mortified at this state of affairs. The Holy Spirit will prick our hearts as we sin, and give us some small feeling of the way our Father sees these things. There are really only two choices in this common situation. We can either ignore our sins and the convictions of the Holy Spirit, or we can renew our efforts to live a holy and sin free life.


I do not know you, but you have found it fitting to stand up for VW since he does not respond himself.

I have been in prayer about VW for a while. For he is a self proclaimed prophet and his words do not line up with the Bible. He is in a spiritual fog and sees only TWO options, neither of which are what God intends. What is your answer to the conversation? Mine can be found in VW new thread "Behind the veil: part two"

I will lay my cards on the table. I believe in spiritual gifts and I believe everyone who has the Holy Spirit speaks to God in a personal and intimate way, but I also believe the Satan lies and if you are not discerning the deceiving spirits will lead you astray.

do you know the difference between the spirit of prophecy and the spirit of divinations?

one is the Testimony of Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, the other predicts the future but never gets around to talking about the salvation of Christ. the spirits lie by omission, can you discern between the angels of God and the angels with the false light of Satan?


Acts 16:16-19
New King James Version (NKJV)
16 Now it happened, as we went to prayer, that a certain slave girl possessed with a spirit of divination met us, who brought her masters much profit by fortune-telling. 17 This girl followed Paul and us, and cried out, saying, “These men are the servants of the Most High God, who proclaim to us the way of salvation.” 18 And this she did for many days.
But Paul, greatly annoyed, turned and said to the spirit, “I command you in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her.” And he came out that very hour. 19 But when her masters saw that their hope of profit was gone, they seized Paul and Silas and dragged them into the marketplace to the authorities.