The sin of refusing sex

[Robertt]

Life is too short .Make love not WAR

 

[Polar]

Asked if I was raised in an abusive home. Intimated that I did not love my husband, and the act of sex with him was a performance. That would akin to comparing me to a hooker. But I noticed you had no issue with what she said to me. Which was a lot more personal and disgusting than anything that was said to her. Luckily my husband isn't part of this forum. If you think I'm direct...

So threatening. Dramatic even.

I'll huff and puff and blow your house down. Yeah I know. I did not compare you to a hooker. I find what I do actually say, brings some strange comparisons to your mind.

I'm not lucky. The Bible says believers are blessed. Luck has nothing to do with it.

 

[Robertt]

i dont think i have ever refused sex.. but hey i am a man ... you know we weak lol

 

[Live4Him3]

The OP is a Christian, he is married. I am a Christian. Why would either of you make the judgment that we didn't love our spouses? That there was no love? What ever would make you both jump to that conclusion?

Hey, kaylagrl.

I'm not going to answer your post line by line, but I will simply comment on this statement of yours.

You obviously greatly misunderstood what I meant when I asked "Where is the love?"

In other words, contrary to what you said here, in no way, shape, or form was I accusing the OP or you of not loving your spouses.

Instead, I was asking "Where is the love?" in relation to the way that you seemed to be describing sexual relations in regard to what Paul said in I Corinthians chapter 7.

Again, my posts, if you would simply reread what I actually said, were in regard to the BENEVOLENCE that Paul mentioned in a husband and wife relationship which preceded what he said in relation to their bodies.

That's it...and God himself is perfectly aware of the same.

As far as Polar is concerned, you're assuming that I've read all of her comments here (I'm guessing that I haven't...don't really know for sure because I haven't even come close to reading all of the posts here), but I do have a completely different take on her responses to you that I have actually read.

Simply put, it seems to me that she's simply been saying all along that marriage isn't simply sex-driven. Instead, she and her husband interact with each other in different ways at different times, depending upon either of their needs at any given moment, and sexual relations occur at the times when both see fit.

What is wrong with that?

In my estimation, nothing.

Anyhow, I'm not going back and forth on this issue with you anymore.

I've said what I've said, and I've meant every word of it...even though you apparently are misunderstanding at least some of what I've said.

I've taken the time, out of courtesy and respect, to attempt to clarify any misunderstandings to you, and that will simply have to suffice.

Personally, I'm not a big fan, with the exception of the Bible itself, of communicating with people via written text because so much can be read into what another is saying or thinking...even though such words or thoughts are foreign to the person that they're being wrongly attributed to.

Anyhow, I'm done explaining myself here. After all, I'm not the topic of discussion. What Paul said in I Corinthians chapter 7 is, and I've offered enough commentary on that already.

Have a good day.

 

[Live4Him3]

Sad to say but I don't think anyone has any idea what is being said here anymore..........
this thread is sooooooooooo far off course.

For those who may have only jumped in to read along the current events without back reading the beginning of this old thread (started in May of 2020!) the OP for this thread (quoted in full below) was a simple Bible verse.


I wonder if this thread will ever be able to get back to that?

Contrary to what some people here apparently think, I've stuck with Paul's words here.

The only thing that I've truly been guilty of here is putting Paul's words in a fuller context of what he actually said.

Again, mentioning the BENEVOLENCE part which preceded the verse that you cited.

 

[Live4Him3]

Me too, Lady Blue is orange kitty. I would have to look twice if she changed it. There are others here that are the same. I almost want to ask them to change back.

I've momentarily changed my profile picture so that you can hopefully recollect exactly who I am.

I'll change it back some time later today.

If any women here take vows of celibacy after seeing my puss, then that's on you, and not on me.

 

[kaylagrl]

Hey, kaylagrl.

I'm not going to answer your post line by line, but I will simply comment on this statement of yours.

You obviously greatly misunderstood what I meant when I asked "Where is the love?"

In other words, contrary to what you said here, in no way, shape, or form was I accusing the OP or you of not loving your spouses.

Instead, I was asking "Where is the love?" in relation to the way that you seemed to be describing sexual relations in regard to what Paul said in I Corinthians chapter 7.

Again, my posts, if you would simply reread what I actually said, were in regard to the BENEVOLENCE that Paul mentioned in a husband and wife relationship which preceded what he said in relation to their bodies.

That's it...and God himself is perfectly aware of the same.

As far as Polar is concerned, you're assuming that I've read all of her comments here (I'm guessing that I haven't...don't really know for sure because I haven't even come close to reading all of the posts here), but I do have a completely different take on her responses to you that I have actually read.

Simply put, it seems to me that she's simply been saying all along that marriage isn't simply sex-driven. Instead, she and her husband interact with each other in different ways at different times, depending upon either of their needs at any given moment, and sexual relations occur at the times when both see fit.

What is wrong with that?

In my estimation, nothing.

Anyhow, I'm not going back and forth on this issue with you anymore.

I've said what I've said, and I've meant every word of it...even though you apparently are misunderstanding at least some of what I've said.

I've taken the time, out of courtesy and respect, to attempt to clarify any misunderstandings to you, and that will simply have to suffice.

Personally, I'm not a big fan, with the exception of the Bible itself, of communicating with people via written text because so much can be read into what another is saying or thinking...even though such words or thoughts are foreign to the person that they're being wrongly attributed to.

Anyhow, I'm done explaining myself here. After all, I'm not the topic of discussion. What Paul said in I Corinthians chapter 7 is, and I've offered enough commentary on that already.

Have a good day.

I have less issue with you. Parts we misunderstood each other, fine. Polar on the other hand, she got extremely personal and went for the the throat. She feels good about it. If she felt like the things she posted in her last post to me were Christlike, that's on her head. But I think your reprimanding me for what brother John said is a little one sided considering what she said to me in her last post. I think I will PM you on this before I lose your face and forget who you are again.

 

[Robertt]

i owuld be so happy to be in relationship and be offered sex. then i could at least consider for 2 seconds rejecting it.. if my partner said no to my offer i would ask why and do all i could to fix whatever the issue is

pleasing your partner comes first.. forgive the PUN

 

[Robertt]

why oh why are there no single girls here looking for a relationship lol

 

[Polar]

I have less issue with you. Parts we misunderstood each other, fine. Polar on the other hand, she got extremely personal and went for the the throat. She feels good about it. If she felt like the things she posted in her last post to me were Christlike, that's on her head. But I think your reprimanding me for what brother John said is a little one sided considering what she said to me in her last post. I think I will PM you on this before I lose your face and forget who you are again.

No that did not happen at all. Your throat is your own. Nothing is on my head. If I thought for one moment that you had any sort of case against me, I would apologize. Indeed, the Holy Spirit would nudge me to apologize and I would do so or be uncomfortable until I did. You are a wrecking ball. You have (and I am so tired of saying this but it is as true now as it was the first time) not only exaggerated, twisted and bordered on hysteria, you have lied about what I have posted. You do realize anyone can read what I posted and the crass remarks that followed that you are responsible for? I use the word hysteria because the responses from you seem to be from someone who has lost it.

I truly have not met anyone here who basically creates nonsense and lies to attempt to create the impression the other person is guilty of what they are doing themself, to the extent that you are capable of. As I already stated a few pages back, this is not my first profile. I have not really had anything to do with you because I don't care for the way you harp on people and basically flog them with your tongue. You accuse others (not just me) of what YOU actually do and this is apparently how you conduct yourself and have conducted yourself and no doubt, unless God intervenes, will continue to do so.

I have read, not with ill intent, some of your threads in the family forum, where you are asking people for help because there are so many problems in your family. You do not represent yourself in a truthful manner but try to flip your own problems onto others.

Do not wonder why the problems you have expressed continue. They are self inflicted.

I have not given you what you seem to want and that would be descriptive renditions of how my husband and I conduct ourselves within the privacy of our own home. I was not brought up to broadcast private matters to the world. Anyone can come here and 'read all about it'. My private life is none of your business. You have made YOUR private life everyone's business.

You tend to make a thread about the people writing in it, rather than the op. Perhaps take some classes on communication and how to actually interact with others who do not have the penchant for drama accusing as it seems you do. I am serious about learning how to communicate better. You are not very good at it all.

 

[Robertt]

No that did not happen at all. Your throat is your own. Nothing is on my head. If I thought for one moment that you had any sort of case against me, I would apologize. Indeed, the Holy Spirit would nudge me to apologize and I would do so or be uncomfortable until I did. You are a wrecking ball. You have (and I am so tired of saying this but it is as true now as it was the first time) not only exaggerated, twisted and bordered on hysteria, you have lied about what I have posted. You do realize anyone can read what I posted and the crass remarks that followed that you are responsible for? I use the word hysteria because the responses from you seem to be from someone who has lost it.

I truly have not met anyone here who basically creates nonsense and lies to attempt to create the impression the other person is guilty of what they are doing themself, to the extent that you are capable of. As I already stated a few pages back, this is not my first profile. I have not really had anything to do with you because I don't care for the way you harp on people and basically flog them with your tongue. You accuse others (not just me) of what YOU actually do and this is apparently how you conduct yourself and have conducted yourself and no doubt, unless God intervenes, will continue to do so.

I have read, not with ill intent, some of your threads in the family forum, where you are asking people for help because their are so many problems in your family. You do not represent yourself in a truthful manner but try to flip your own problems onto others.

Do t wonder why the problems you have expressed continue. They are self inflicted.

oh so much love there for one whom you state is in problems..
wow oh wow.

THe love we have for one another .. that is what we are to be known for... not how well we defend our posts and can put others into their place.

LOVE and no it doesnt take two to show thast love . it starts with one . like CHRIST loving us .

 

[Polar]

I will add that you do not do this to everyone. The people who speak their own mind and with whom you disagree are your targets. You giggle and laugh with anyone you think you can switch to your side.

 

[kaylagrl]

I have not given you what you seem to want and that would be descriptive renditions of how my husband and I conduct ourselves within the privacy of our own home.

You are sick !!

 

[Polar]

Hey, kaylagrl.

I'm not going to answer your post line by line, but I will simply comment on this statement of yours.

You obviously greatly misunderstood what I meant when I asked "Where is the love?"

In other words, contrary to what you said here, in no way, shape, or form was I accusing the OP or you of not loving your spouses.

Instead, I was asking "Where is the love?" in relation to the way that you seemed to be describing sexual relations in regard to what Paul said in I Corinthians chapter 7.

Again, my posts, if you would simply reread what I actually said, were in regard to the BENEVOLENCE that Paul mentioned in a husband and wife relationship which preceded what he said in relation to their bodies.

That's it...and God himself is perfectly aware of the same.

As far as Polar is concerned, you're assuming that I've read all of her comments here (I'm guessing that I haven't...don't really know for sure because I haven't even come close to reading all of the posts here), but I do have a completely different take on her responses to you that I have actually read.

Simply put, it seems to me that she's simply been saying all along that marriage isn't simply sex-driven. Instead, she and her husband interact with each other in different ways at different times, depending upon either of their needs at any given moment, and sexual relations occur at the times when both see fit.

What is wrong with that?

In my estimation, nothing.

Anyhow, I'm not going back and forth on this issue with you anymore.

I've said what I've said, and I've meant every word of it...even though you apparently are misunderstanding at least some of what I've said.

I've taken the time, out of courtesy and respect, to attempt to clarify any misunderstandings to you, and that will simply have to suffice.

Personally, I'm not a big fan, with the exception of the Bible itself, of communicating with people via written text because so much can be read into what another is saying or thinking...even though such words or thoughts are foreign to the person that they're being wrongly attributed to.

Anyhow, I'm done explaining myself here. After all, I'm not the topic of discussion. What Paul said in I Corinthians chapter 7 is, and I've offered enough commentary on that already.

Have a good day.

I only began participating 2 days ago. So you probably read most of what I wrote. Basically, most of what I posted was a defense against the nonsense and false words attributed to me that were the creation of Kayla.

I think you know what point I was trying to make and basically the response was "how dare you" "maybe you should leave" and other attempts at control which are so obvious as to be silly.

I have also taken the time to clarify and been told I did not clarify and I am sure to others without a stake in whatever game is going on here, can plainly see that.

You said to Kayla:
You obviously greatly misunderstood what I meant when I asked "Where is the love?"

I had the same experience and brought up the same question and meant it the same way and then she assumes I am saying she does not love her husband. I do not believe anything is to be gained by making a person the topic, yet that is what she does. I don't like giving up but I probably like having what I say twisted, taken out of context and nonsense I never said, being attributed to me, even less.

Trying to explain over and over and being told I did not explain, or I should leave the thread or stick to the op, when I tried to insert a part of the equation is like talking to the proverbial wall it seems. How many times and in how many ways can you discuss having sex with your spouse and you had better because otherwise you are sinning? I have not read the whole thread; I found much of it distasteful and written in a titillating manner which makes me wonder about the creation of it to begin with. Crass comments abound and people get angry if you happen to point that out.

At this point and actually before really, there is nothing left to say and I don't need to add any more accusations to the collection.

I really should have just let the folks who want to revel in this mess go after it and either bowed out from day 1, or even better, saw what was going on and gone on myself.

I have less than zero expectations of any sort of honest dialogue here with someone who creates fabrications and attributes them to others. Really no wonder the state of Christianity when you get to see what is going on in people's heads.

This has been yet another experience wherein I am disappointed and sad. Usually I will just peruse a thread like this, quickly, and move on. I don't mind the experience though. It is a sad illustration of so much that is wrong today within Christianity and attitudes in general. Let's not discuss what the Bible actually says concerning love between a man and a woman and how to conduct themselves within the marriage. Oh no! Let's just discuss sex and say anyone who disagrees about where the emphasis should be, is a prude who hates sex and men.

Voila! We have this thread and people who are anonymous so they can just be themselves.

 

[Polar]

You are sick !!

True. Sick of your nonsense. God knows I tried.

 

[Polar]

You have a good day Kayla. I would say you need one.

 

[kaylagrl]

True. Sick of your nonsense. God knows I tried.

No one cares about your dried up old sex life. That is sick, along with everything else you just posted.

 

[HeIsHere]

This thread seems to be going nowhere fast, but I'll address your comments simply out of courtesy/respect, and then I'll probably just move away from this conversation.

Sure seems that way, reading from the end backwards!

 

[Polar]

Yeah Kayla. Are you aware we have to answer for our words? Your mouth has quite got the better of you. I am not at all sick. You lash out in anger and it seems pain. I have not meant you any harm. You really should stop with the nastiness before it gets a bigger hold on you.

I pray you find the grace to stop attacking the way that you do. For your own sake if no one elses'

 

[HeIsHere]

No one cares about your dried up old sex life. That is sick, along with everything else you just posted.

What a thing to post, this is searchable and and there you go I found this dialogue on a Christian Chat site.