only reason it is valid today is for our learning as parahrising from scriptrur. all scripture is good for learning
How did Satan face God in Job?
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Revelation ch 2 and the rest of Revelation does indeed speak of satan's working in the churches and in the world.
Do a review.
all angels can see the face of God and not die.
Satan isnt human he is an angel he was chief of the Cherubs until pride was found within him
So satan is eternal as all angels are.
AGREE that all angels are eternal beings.
I do not believe that all angels can see the face of God - it is not something to argue over or be dogmatic on.
Note: the Cherubs cover their faces with their wings before the Mercy Seat.
AGREE with you that Lucifer was the Chief Covering Cherub - also known as 'Light Bearer' and 'Beautiful'.
Lucifer was then given the name 'satan' as he is now our adversary.
you may not beleive , but the have been in Gods presence since they were created. no where does it mention in bible they have never seen gods face.
But hey goodbye this is yet another argument and why the unsaved see no unity in christ.
Why then make it an argument?
Did i not say, it is not something we should argue over.
Does it matter to me if all the angels can see God's Face - of course not - that is God's Domain and Authority.
If i was part of a congregation that believed all angels see God - it would never be a cause of concern.
As far as the Gospel is concerned - this is trivial and of zero importance to our Salvation and fellowship in Christ.
Our Unity in Christ is solely based on our Love for Him and His Body.
"A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another.
By this all will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another.”
John 13:34-35
Peace to you
if that is the case. then eternal life promised us all for beleving is a lie..Scripture says God alone is immortal. In 1 Timothy 6:16
I guess i keep reading bible wrong
I am convinved now i donot have holy spirit . i am evil and not sure why i bother.
sorry for all my posts people
What you call a lie is actually Scriptural truth. We attain to life ever after by grace through faith in the shed righteous blood of Christ. That is Christianity 101. Man is mortal and is called such in Scripture. Maligning the Word of God or deliberately distorting what is says is not a good practice.
Jesus' words from John 7:37-38 and John 4:14
Ignoring the intellectual or scholarly approach to understanding ultimate truth is simply not allowing oneself to be fooled by what is falsely called knowledge.
All who wish to approach our Father as an intellectual or scholar may do so, but I tell you now, He cannot be impressed by such arrogance.
Unless we turn and become as a child we cannot enter into the Kingdom of God.
All who wish to approach our Father as an intellectual or scholar may do so, but I tell you now, He cannot be impressed by such arrogance.
Unless we turn and become as a child we cannot enter into the Kingdom of God.
First, I will point out a a couple of other scriptures for reference:
Genesis 18: 22 And the men turned their faces from thence, and went toward Sodom: but Abraham stood yet before the Lord.
Numbers 27:5 5 And Moses brought their cause before the LORD.
Now for the Job passages:
Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them.
Job 2:1 Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the Lord.
Some teach that this "before the Lord" encounter happened in Heaven but, Genesis 18 and Numbers 27 clearly show that traveling to Heaven was not necessary. I personally believe that the "sons of God" (believers including Job) came to worship(somewhere in the Middle East) and Satan (the Accuser of the Brethren) came too. He still does the same today when we pray, whether it be at home or on the church altar. Nobody "sees" God in the encounter.
Genesis 18: 22 And the men turned their faces from thence, and went toward Sodom: but Abraham stood yet before the Lord.
Numbers 27:5 5 And Moses brought their cause before the LORD.
Now for the Job passages:
Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them.
Job 2:1 Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the Lord.
Some teach that this "before the Lord" encounter happened in Heaven but, Genesis 18 and Numbers 27 clearly show that traveling to Heaven was not necessary. I personally believe that the "sons of God" (believers including Job) came to worship(somewhere in the Middle East) and Satan (the Accuser of the Brethren) came too. He still does the same today when we pray, whether it be at home or on the church altar. Nobody "sees" God in the encounter.
As I said I should not be here . Fed up with alll the arguing over wordsWhat you call a lie is actually Scriptural truth. We attain to life ever after by grace through faith in the shed righteous blood of Christ. That is Christianity 101. Man is mortal and is called such in Scripture. Maligning the Word of God or deliberately distorting what is says is not a good practice.
Jesus' words from John 7:37-38 and John 4:14
Why do you say such things as: then eternal life promised us all for beleving is a lie.. ???
Your attitude is in need of adjustment.
God alone is immortal. Either you believe Scripture, or you don't.
why because i have no idea how to posdt as well as everyone else. sorry. i am not here to argue or debate my beliefs but i post without thinking and just say thigns
i guess that means i have to be beaten down and shown how stupid i am
WEll thanks i been on this forum for a few days now and feel so depressed and low i am not sure what i am going to do
i came seeking friends but i have no idea how to post frirnedly little posts that attract people
my faultk i know, i am stupid and totally ineppt
i guess that means i have to be beaten down and shown how stupid i am
WEll thanks i been on this forum for a few days now and feel so depressed and low i am not sure what i am going to do
i came seeking friends but i have no idea how to post frirnedly little posts that attract people
my faultk i know, i am stupid and totally ineppt
Do you not feel sorry for yourself? Your posts seem to
Why not post the good news about your life instead of wallowing?