I have heard and read many say that the beast was NERO, but Nero did not rule for 42 months, he ruled for over a decade. So I don't believe it is Nero.
I have heard some say its the papacy, the Pope, but then it would have to somehow account for the fact that there are two beasts, first one is wounded, and then the second one makes everyone worship the first beast.
I am not making this thread to tell everyone what is what, it is my humble request we would all shoot ideas and consider each perspective.
I would also like to hear what does the phrases "From the Sea" and "From the earth" mean, why are these beasts from different places? I take the sea to be symbolic of multitude of peoples as elsewhere in revelation?
Bonus question: What is the number of a man, 666, or do we just not know it yet?
I have heard some say its the papacy, the Pope, but then it would have to somehow account for the fact that there are two beasts, first one is wounded, and then the second one makes everyone worship the first beast.
I am not making this thread to tell everyone what is what, it is my humble request we would all shoot ideas and consider each perspective.
I would also like to hear what does the phrases "From the Sea" and "From the earth" mean, why are these beasts from different places? I take the sea to be symbolic of multitude of peoples as elsewhere in revelation?
Bonus question: What is the number of a man, 666, or do we just not know it yet?
2Daniel spake and said, I saw in my vision by night, and, behold, the four winds of the heaven strove upon the great sea.
3And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another.
Daniel had a dream of 4 kingdoms that were different from each other which are the 4 ways of people which all 4 kingdoms went by these 4 ways but 1 of those ways were their chief mode of operation where the other 3 ways were a minor mode of operation.
4The first was like a lion, and had eagle's wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to it.
The first kingdom is Babylon which represents the occult, human religion, and the kingdom of man.
It had eagle's wings which means they had the revelation of God which king Nebuchadnezzar acknowledged the God of Israel as the greatest of all the gods and proclaimed throughout his kingdom that if anybody said anything against God that they would be cut in pieces and their house made a dunghill and his kingdom flourished.
His son took the throne and knew what his father believed but took the vessels out of the temple of the LORD and drank out of them praising false gods and the kingdom was stripped from them and given to the Medes and Persians.
The eagle's wings were plucked which they lost the revelation of God and then became known as the kingdom of man.
5And behold another beast, a second, like to a bear, and it raised up itself on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and they said thus unto it, Arise, devour much flesh.
The second kingdom is Medo-Persia which represents human cruelty in war which it raised itself up on one side because the Persian influence was more dominant in that union.
It had 3 ribs in its mouth which probably represents 3 nations they conquered that became in league with them giving them more power and control.
6After this I beheld, and lo another, like a leopard, which had upon the back of it four wings of a fowl; the beast had also four heads; and dominion was given to it.
The third kingdom is Greece which represent human wisdom which had 4 wings of a fowl which could mean they advanced more in modern medicine, science, philosophy, and things like that, and had 4 heads which when Alexander the Great died his kingdom was split in to 4 sections and a general ruled each section.
7After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron
teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.
Daniel 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.
The fourth beast is the Roman Empire which represents pushing for power, territory, world domination.
They were different from the other 3 kingdoms because they were the most determined to conquer other nations and gain power and control which is why they are represented as iron.
The 10 horns is the world split in to 10 sections with a leader in each section which they shall devour the whole earth which will be the time when the nations come together as a one world government and the new age religion the bond between them that interprets all religions according to the occult and evolution which they believe they are still evolving to be spiritual and godlike.
8I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.
The little horn, New Age Christ, antichrist, comes from the 10 horns which comes from the Roman Empire which the prince to come will come from the people who overthrew Jerusalem which is the Roman Empire.
The New Age Christ will be of the new age movement and will push the agenda of the new age movement until the world rebels against God.
12As concerning the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away: yet their lives were prolonged for a season and time.
Daniel 2:45 Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold; the great God hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter: and the dream is certain, and the interpretation thereof sure.
The first 3 beasts will never have physical dominion again but their lives were prolonged for a time and a season which means their ways are still on earth.
All 4 kingdoms ways are still on earth and they show up at the beast kingdom in Revelation.
The Roman Empire does not lose their dominion until Jesus puts the world down.
Revelation 13:1-2 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
2And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
Revelation 18: 1-2 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.
2And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
All 4 kingdoms ways are at the beast kingdom which is the kingdom of man in its entirety.
It is the chief mode of operation of the 10 horns, Roman Empire, which represents pushing for power, territory, world domination, which the Roman Empire has the physical dominion that influenced the world with the new age movement interpretation of religions, Mystery Babylon.
It is the chief mode of operation of the lion, Babylon, which is the occult, human religion, and the kingdom of man.
It is the chief mode of operation of the bear, Medo-Persia, which represents physical cruelty in war which they will war against everyone that opposes them to try to get them off the earth.
It is the chief mode of operation of the leopard, Greece, which represents human wisdom.
All 4 kingdoms chief mode of operation are at the beast kingdom with no minor role of operation which is the kingdom of man in its entirety.
The beast kingdom is known as Babylon which is in spirit which Babylon will never have physical dominion again but the beast kingdom is of the occult, human religion, the kingdom of man.
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