Gun control in the USA

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shittim

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Encouraging! I have seen a few down to .29 per round.
I reloaded one Blazer brass, when seating the primer, the ram went too far, I looked and it had pushed through the web in the base, I believe all manufacturers are running as fast and hard as they can to keep up with demand, and sometime QC takes a hit. I am seeing primers slowly come down and foreign brands coming in, Bosnian, Russian, etc.
 

Lynx

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Encouraging! I have seen a few down to .29 per round.
I reloaded one Blazer brass, when seating the primer, the ram went too far, I looked and it had pushed through the web in the base, I believe all manufacturers are running as fast and hard as they can to keep up with demand, and sometime QC takes a hit. I am seeing primers slowly come down and foreign brands coming in, Bosnian, Russian, etc.
Uh... Even I know that's a bad thing. I can't think of any situation where you would need a gun and yet have time to fiddle with a poorly made bullet. Generally in situations like that you need it to be very, very reliable, every time.
 

shittim

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Ignorance does indeed show , reloads are for practice, competition, recreation, perhaps hunting depending on what you are reloading, certainly not 9mm, factory ammo for carry and defense.
(y):unsure::)
 

Lynx

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Ignorance does indeed show , reloads are for practice, competition, recreation, perhaps hunting depending on what you are reloading, certainly not 9mm, factory ammo for carry and defense.
(y):unsure::)
Wait, let me see if I got that straight:

You are using cheaper ammo that is NOT meant for life-or-death situations... Casings that have already been used and are reloaded and used a second time... Ammo that is intended for situations where you CAN stop and fiddle with it if it messes up. Right?

That makes me feel a lot better about the people I personally know who have concealed carry licenses. I've been glad to know they probably have guns on them, and your comment about ammo failure was making me concerned.
 

shittim

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#47
You have NOTHING "straight" about any of what you speak.
You are too confused to discuss any of this.
 

Lynx

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You have NOTHING "straight" about any of what you speak.
You are too confused to discuss any of this.
Of course not. I have said before that I don't know anything about guns.

You don't have to insult me to tell me I'm wrong. This isn't the BDF.
 

shittim

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you don't have to post ignorance.
The computer you are using to post ignorance is the best tool for learning we have ever had in the history of mankind, after Holy Spirit who will guide ion all truth, IF we will allow.
best wishes
 

GaryA

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@shittim:

Just because you mention something off-hand, doesn't mean everyone is going to go research it on the internet to the nth degree until they are an expert on it - just so they can add something to the conversation.

If a less-knowledgeable-than-you person engages you so that they may learn from you - or, if they simply want to make conversation (happens a lot on here) - how about being a little more patient with them... ;)

I can understand you telling someone that they should "do their own research" or "go educate yourself" if it is the thread topic and they are trying to get you to tell them volumes of information that they could familiarize themselves with on the internet.

(Yes - the thread topic is gun-related - but, it is not specifically about reloading ammo.)

However, when what someone posts essentially amounts to just wanting to converse on the topic in a not-too-deep fashion (and, especially if they are trying to learn something) - instead of "shooting them down", how about - :eek: converse - o_O help them to understand it better (if not too involved, or you feel like being nice :) (y) :cool: ) - instead of telling them how dumb, ignorant, or stupid they are.

If you feel they need "correction", there are certainly more edifying ways to do it...

"Just sayin'..."
 

shittim

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I have had much past experience with the person that you apparently are not aware of.
There was no interest is learning, there was a jump right to judgement in #46 that you chose to not see, and failed to acknowledge #45.
What you are erroneously referring to as a "topic" was a response the Mailmandan.

enough said.
 

Lynx

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I have had much past experience with the person that you apparently are not aware of.
There was no interest is learning, there was a jump right to judgement in #46 that you chose to not see, and failed to acknowledge #45.
What you are erroneously referring to as a "topic" was a response the Mailmandan.

enough said.
Actually in this case I was asking a question. I was using that computer you mentioned to ask you for more information on this side topic.

Apparently you're not big on answering questions, and I'm not curious enough about the topic to do a lot of research on my own, so I guess I won't know this subject today.

My post #46 didn't have any judgment in it. I was summarizing what I thought the ammo was and what I thought its intended purpose was, and asking if I was right. Apparently I was wrong. Oh well.
 

hornetguy

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#53
c'mon, man! :D
When reloading, the old primer is pushed out of the case, and a new primer is pushed back into the "pocket". The primer is the "ignition source" for the gunpowder. He was saying that he had a case that was machined improperly, and when he pushed the new primer into the case, it broke through the pocket. This makes all the cases in that "batch" suspect.
Most brass cases are very well made, and can be reloaded multiple times, completely safely. The case is the most expensive part of any cartridge, so it just makes economical sense to reload them.
I would have no problem using any of my reloads in any situation, because I trust my loading methods and my QC....

I still have a factory loaded round from a very reputable company that came to me with the primer inserted backwards... so even factory made ammo can be faulty. (y)(y)
 

Lynx

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The casing is the most expensive part?

So THAT'S why dad had a buckshot reloader machine when I was a kid. I always wondered why he fiddled with it.

Oddly I never saw him fire a shotgun. I think he did reloads for friends.
 

shittim

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OK Lynx,
I have shotshell reloading equipment from my grandfather, pretty common in the old times. Here is the 9mm.
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shittim

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As I seem to be surrounded with Planters Peanut bottles filled with 9mm, seems time to do some 38's
Hornet guy- How did your Rossi do with 357 and 38?
 

Lynx

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OK Lynx,
I have shotshell reloading equipment from my grandfather, pretty common in the old times. Here is the 9mm.
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Was it a big iron contraption, taller than you are, with five trays that rotated and a big plunger arm that you pull down onto the casing?

Dad's machine looked like it should be on a factory floor somewhere. A factory floor in the 1960s, that is. It looked expensive and durable, but I think he got a very good deal on it somewhere.
 

hornetguy

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As I seem to be surrounded with Planters Peanut bottles filled with 9mm, seems time to do some 38's
Hornet guy- How did your Rossi do with 357 and 38?
I had to work 6 days last week, and I was too tired to go shooting after church on Sunday... I ran a couple of cotton mops with JB bore compound on them through the barrel, just to smooth it a bit, and I plan to go either Fri or Sat to run it through its paces...
I did try cycling a few of my 38 sp reloads through it, and it worked very nicely.... it looks promising.... range report to follow... :cool:
 

hornetguy

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Was it a big iron contraption, taller than you are, with five trays that rotated and a big plunger arm that you pull down onto the casing?

Dad's machine looked like it should be on a factory floor somewhere. A factory floor in the 1960s, that is. It looked expensive and durable, but I think he got a very good deal on it somewhere.
That is a very desirable loader.... does it say MEC on it? Those were the most common loaders for shotguns, and likely still are. That would probably sell for at least a couple hundred dollars, if you decided to sell it...
 

Lynx

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Yes it did say m e c on it. I have no idea where it is though. This was back when I was eight.

They sure used a lot of iron in those old machines...