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john 3:16 for God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him shall not perish, but have everlasting life.
If you believe in Jesus Christ and His sacrifice for you, then you are one of the elect. If you need more faith read the bible and pray. The bible says the prayers of a righteous man avail much.
God Bless You
If you believe in Jesus Christ and His sacrifice for you, then you are one of the elect. If you need more faith read the bible and pray. The bible says the prayers of a righteous man avail much.
God Bless You
L
Both. Would you prefer I write a comprehensive essay on all of the reasons for our state and the reason He died, instead of just choose one that is probably a root cause here?
Yes Jesus died to heal us mind, body, heart, soul, spirit. Its part of the complete redemtive work of Christ. He has not only bourne or iniquities, but our sorrows, and He came to heal the broken hearted.
T
You know, I just don't know. I have been actively involved in fellowship and ministry for years. I can look at everyone else and say "God loves that person", but I just can't accept it for myself. I read my bible and I believe it is true for everyone but me. I just can't get past the thought that he must not like me, he could never love me. Yet I see him as a loving God who loves everyone else!
I absolutly DO believe in Christ. I AM born again. I have been for years. I just can't get that he loves me. I know he loves everyone else. I have taught that to so many. Jesus LOVES YOU. And then I think "how nice that he loves them. I wish he loved me." I have taught Sunday school, women's ministries, VBS, deacon's wife, youth group, Missionettes, Young at Heart, you name it. And I always have told everyone how much Jesus loves them. But I just can't get it for myself. Does that make any sense? I have felt this way since the 6th grade.
I absolutly DO believe in Christ. I AM born again. I have been for years. I just can't get that he loves me. I know he loves everyone else. I have taught that to so many. Jesus LOVES YOU. And then I think "how nice that he loves them. I wish he loved me." I have taught Sunday school, women's ministries, VBS, deacon's wife, youth group, Missionettes, Young at Heart, you name it. And I always have told everyone how much Jesus loves them. But I just can't get it for myself. Does that make any sense? I have felt this way since the 6th grade.
Yes, it does make sense.
Many people believe that God loves them. But something we should have is the knowledge that He loves us which is beyond belief. That knowing that we are His children, and that He loves us even more than we love our children. My children know that I and my wife love them. They know.
I was once like what you describe, I believed with all of my heart, but I just did not believe in His love for me. I knew that I was missing something, that there was something there that I needed but did not have. And I wanted that thing very very much. But what it was I could not say.
I have learned over the years that whenever I get a desire that is so strong and it involves God, that He is the One who gave me the desire. There is something that He wants me to have, but He wants me to first really want it, then to ask Him for it, and then to trust Him to grant the desires of my heart to me.
Ask God for the gift of His love. God is love.
Behold what manner of love God has bestowed upon us, that we should be called the children of God, and such we are now.
In Christ and in His love,
Many people believe that God loves them. But something we should have is the knowledge that He loves us which is beyond belief. That knowing that we are His children, and that He loves us even more than we love our children. My children know that I and my wife love them. They know.
I was once like what you describe, I believed with all of my heart, but I just did not believe in His love for me. I knew that I was missing something, that there was something there that I needed but did not have. And I wanted that thing very very much. But what it was I could not say.
I have learned over the years that whenever I get a desire that is so strong and it involves God, that He is the One who gave me the desire. There is something that He wants me to have, but He wants me to first really want it, then to ask Him for it, and then to trust Him to grant the desires of my heart to me.
Ask God for the gift of His love. God is love.
Behold what manner of love God has bestowed upon us, that we should be called the children of God, and such we are now.
In Christ and in His love,
P
Tearose you are Gods precious princess, beautiful in his sight, nothing you do will make him love how any more or any less, he created you unique in his own image.. This is what david says god thinks about you... Wht would he love you less than anyone else, it sounds to me tat theres things in your life what need healing, i dont know your story, but it sounds to me that you think you are less worthy than anyone else of Gods love, and that my friend is a lie
God, investigate my life; get all the facts firsthand.
I'm an open book to you;
even from a distance, you know what I'm thinking.
You know when I leave and when I get back;
I'm never out of your sight.
You know everything I'm going to say
before I start the first sentence.
I look behind me and you're there,
then up ahead and you're there, too—
your reassuring presence, coming and going.
This is too much, too wonderful—
I can't take it all in!
7-12 Is there anyplace I can go to avoid your Spirit?
to be out of your sight?
If I climb to the sky, you're there!
If I go underground, you're there!
If I flew on morning's wings
to the far western horizon,
You'd find me in a minute—
you're already there waiting!
Then I said to myself, "Oh, he even sees me in the dark!
At night I'm immersed in the light!"
It's a fact: darkness isn't dark to you;
night and day, darkness and light, they're all the same to you.
13-16 Oh yes, you shaped me first inside, then out;
you formed me in my mother's womb.
I thank you, High God—you're breathtaking!
Body and soul, I am marvelously made!
I worship in adoration—what a creation!
You know me inside and out,
you know every bone in my body;
You know exactly how I was made, bit by bit,
how I was sculpted from nothing into something.
Like an open book, you watched me grow from conception to birth;
all the stages of my life were spread out before you,
The days of my life all prepared
before I'd even lived one day.
17-22 Your thoughts—how rare, how beautiful!
God, I'll never comprehend them!
I couldn't even begin to count them—
any more than I could count the sand of the sea.
Oh, let me rise in the morning and live always with you!
God, investigate my life; get all the facts firsthand.
I'm an open book to you;
even from a distance, you know what I'm thinking.
You know when I leave and when I get back;
I'm never out of your sight.
You know everything I'm going to say
before I start the first sentence.
I look behind me and you're there,
then up ahead and you're there, too—
your reassuring presence, coming and going.
This is too much, too wonderful—
I can't take it all in!
7-12 Is there anyplace I can go to avoid your Spirit?
to be out of your sight?
If I climb to the sky, you're there!
If I go underground, you're there!
If I flew on morning's wings
to the far western horizon,
You'd find me in a minute—
you're already there waiting!
Then I said to myself, "Oh, he even sees me in the dark!
At night I'm immersed in the light!"
It's a fact: darkness isn't dark to you;
night and day, darkness and light, they're all the same to you.
13-16 Oh yes, you shaped me first inside, then out;
you formed me in my mother's womb.
I thank you, High God—you're breathtaking!
Body and soul, I am marvelously made!
I worship in adoration—what a creation!
You know me inside and out,
you know every bone in my body;
You know exactly how I was made, bit by bit,
how I was sculpted from nothing into something.
Like an open book, you watched me grow from conception to birth;
all the stages of my life were spread out before you,
The days of my life all prepared
before I'd even lived one day.
17-22 Your thoughts—how rare, how beautiful!
God, I'll never comprehend them!
I couldn't even begin to count them—
any more than I could count the sand of the sea.
Oh, let me rise in the morning and live always with you!
I seriously know what you're talking about. For me it really hasn't been that he hates me, just that he doesn't care. I understand you totally though... I thought I wasn't praying properly, or I didn't truly believe, or I'm missing something or something like that.
And I admit, I still struggle with these feelings... I mean I know they are not true, it's just I can't believe it.. if that makes sense. I think, for me at least, it is as someone else posted earlier, a you not loving you problem. This is something I've dealt with since about 6th grade as well. I can tell others and try to reach out to help others hold on but when it comes to myself, I just don't think God cares. Even though I know it's not true, it's just something I can't get myself to believe. But I'm starting to realize that the core of everything that's wrong in my life... or what I perceive to be wrong... boils down to how I see myself... and honestly, I haven't been very nice to myself over the years. The thing I hate the most is the thing I cannot escape... and I think that interferes with how I perceive God's love. Because I have problems with myself, I can't comprehend anyone else not feeling negative towards me including God.
And it is painful at times. To see others who seem to be so loved by others and by God. Where the light of Jesus really shines out through them and you wonder, "What happened to me?" and feel like God just doesn't care... he's just spectating your life for some reason and not acting in it. Like salvation is out of your reach, there for everyone else but not for you.
But you just gotta trust God and not how you feel... I don't understand it myself why he seems to shine on others and avoids those who seem to need him the most. But I know God doesn't lie... I've seen him shine in others. And while he may seem distant and deserted you, he hasn't. Just gotta hold on to his word and his promise. You're more loved than you know.
And I admit, I still struggle with these feelings... I mean I know they are not true, it's just I can't believe it.. if that makes sense. I think, for me at least, it is as someone else posted earlier, a you not loving you problem. This is something I've dealt with since about 6th grade as well. I can tell others and try to reach out to help others hold on but when it comes to myself, I just don't think God cares. Even though I know it's not true, it's just something I can't get myself to believe. But I'm starting to realize that the core of everything that's wrong in my life... or what I perceive to be wrong... boils down to how I see myself... and honestly, I haven't been very nice to myself over the years. The thing I hate the most is the thing I cannot escape... and I think that interferes with how I perceive God's love. Because I have problems with myself, I can't comprehend anyone else not feeling negative towards me including God.
And it is painful at times. To see others who seem to be so loved by others and by God. Where the light of Jesus really shines out through them and you wonder, "What happened to me?" and feel like God just doesn't care... he's just spectating your life for some reason and not acting in it. Like salvation is out of your reach, there for everyone else but not for you.
But you just gotta trust God and not how you feel... I don't understand it myself why he seems to shine on others and avoids those who seem to need him the most. But I know God doesn't lie... I've seen him shine in others. And while he may seem distant and deserted you, he hasn't. Just gotta hold on to his word and his promise. You're more loved than you know.
I felt this way as well at one time, I just could not see God's love for me.
Untill Jesus showed me that it is in giving His love to others, that we come to know the love He has for us.
It took a bit of time, but I was filled and overflowing with His love.
I would say what and why, but this is for Jesus to bring through healing in you.
Tearose, Jesus does love you with a love so perfect, that it would take an eternity to fully know.
I see His love for you.
You will know His love, trust and rest in Jesus in this.
Sometimes we need to wait on God, so all that is His perfect love in Jesus will be given, it will be rivers of living water flowing from you.
Trust all in Jesus to God Our Father, everything, no matter what .
Jesus will bring all in God Our Father's timing.
In Jesus, God bless.
pickles
Untill Jesus showed me that it is in giving His love to others, that we come to know the love He has for us.
It took a bit of time, but I was filled and overflowing with His love.
I would say what and why, but this is for Jesus to bring through healing in you.
Tearose, Jesus does love you with a love so perfect, that it would take an eternity to fully know.
I see His love for you.
You will know His love, trust and rest in Jesus in this.
Sometimes we need to wait on God, so all that is His perfect love in Jesus will be given, it will be rivers of living water flowing from you.
Trust all in Jesus to God Our Father, everything, no matter what .
Jesus will bring all in God Our Father's timing.
In Jesus, God bless.
pickles
LAW, LAW, LAW.
cosmic quid pro quo.
that is not knowing the One True God.
that's not how God is AT ALL.
He gives freely and abundantly. He answers simple humble requests.
He is not a giant Hierophant.
that is a heart that is self-absorbed and is not looking to bring Glory to God but is looking for "affirmation of SELF".
what happened to 'you were crucified with Christ'?
cosmic quid pro quo.
that is not knowing the One True God.
that's not how God is AT ALL.
He gives freely and abundantly. He answers simple humble requests.
He is not a giant Hierophant.
that is a heart that is self-absorbed and is not looking to bring Glory to God but is looking for "affirmation of SELF".
what happened to 'you were crucified with Christ'?
yes please. a new thread would be good.
a thread about our SIN problem.
He died to heal our bodies? where does it say that? is physical healing part of the Atonement?
everyone of those afflictions you listed is related to our SIN problem. if we feel "broken-hearted" it's because of the SIN problem.
what's with all the "therapy"?
if our sins are forgiven: there is your peace with God. there is your reconciliation.
if God chooses to add anything else to our lives, that's BONUS.
a thread about our SIN problem.
He died to heal our bodies? where does it say that? is physical healing part of the Atonement?
everyone of those afflictions you listed is related to our SIN problem. if we feel "broken-hearted" it's because of the SIN problem.
what's with all the "therapy"?
if our sins are forgiven: there is your peace with God. there is your reconciliation.
if God chooses to add anything else to our lives, that's BONUS.
Your testimony is worthless because you lack compassion.
If our hearts condemn us not, then we have confidence before God, and we know that we receive what we have requested of Him.
God is greater than our hearts.
Something that every child of God needs to know, very well.
Crucified with Christ..............let's see. "I have been crucified with Christ, nevertheless I live, yet not I, but Christ lives in me, and the life I live now I live by the faith of the Son of God who loved me and gave Himself for me." Is that what you meant? No, maybe this? "The word of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved, it is the power of God." That one? No. Maybe this? "If you have died with Christ to the elementary principles of the world, why, as if you were living in the world, do you submit yourself to decrees, such as, 'do not handle, do not taste, do not touch!' (which all refer to things destined to perish with the using) -in accordance with the commandments and teachings of men?..............."If then you have been raised up with Christ, keep seeking the things above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God. Set your mind on the things above, not on the things that are on earth. For you have died and your life is hidden in with Christ in God. When Christ, who is our life, is revealed, then you also will be revealed with Him in glory."
That crucified with Christ?
In Christ, in whom I have been crucified, and in whom I now have my life.
In Christ,
If our hearts condemn us not, then we have confidence before God, and we know that we receive what we have requested of Him.
God is greater than our hearts.
Something that every child of God needs to know, very well.
Crucified with Christ..............let's see. "I have been crucified with Christ, nevertheless I live, yet not I, but Christ lives in me, and the life I live now I live by the faith of the Son of God who loved me and gave Himself for me." Is that what you meant? No, maybe this? "The word of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved, it is the power of God." That one? No. Maybe this? "If you have died with Christ to the elementary principles of the world, why, as if you were living in the world, do you submit yourself to decrees, such as, 'do not handle, do not taste, do not touch!' (which all refer to things destined to perish with the using) -in accordance with the commandments and teachings of men?..............."If then you have been raised up with Christ, keep seeking the things above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God. Set your mind on the things above, not on the things that are on earth. For you have died and your life is hidden in with Christ in God. When Christ, who is our life, is revealed, then you also will be revealed with Him in glory."
That crucified with Christ?
In Christ, in whom I have been crucified, and in whom I now have my life.
In Christ,
A
You know the phrase "Resist the devil and he will flee"
you need to resist the lies the devil is telling you. You are under demonic attack because you are making a difference in the lives of others. You should listen to some good sermons about spiritual warfare. I would recommend Phil Johnson. Someone on this site recommended him to me and the 8 sermons I've heard so far seem on point and Biblically based.
and ummm zone, vw and others if you guys are going to fight can you move it to a thread where the OP is not having issues about whether God loves her or not? Please?
you need to resist the lies the devil is telling you. You are under demonic attack because you are making a difference in the lives of others. You should listen to some good sermons about spiritual warfare. I would recommend Phil Johnson. Someone on this site recommended him to me and the 8 sermons I've heard so far seem on point and Biblically based.
and ummm zone, vw and others if you guys are going to fight can you move it to a thread where the OP is not having issues about whether God loves her or not? Please?
A
here is a link. if you don't have much time just listen to the "our position in Christ" one by Phil Johnson. Will keep you in my prayers and ask you to do the same for me Remember the battle is already won. we just have to stand firm in the faith that Jesus is Lord and Savior!
Spiritual Warfare
GOD LOVES YOU!
and yes I'm talking to YOU!
Remember the battle is already won. we just have to stand firm in the faith that Jesus is Lord and Savior! Spiritual Warfare
GOD LOVES YOU!
and yes I'm talking to YOU!
My feeling are not hurt. Having compassion is actually something that the Spirit leads us to. When you quote scripture, you should at least quote the entire sentence. In the case above, the sentence reads as this?
For it was the Father's good pleasure for all the fullness to dwell in Him, and through Him to reconcile all things to Himself, having made peace through the blood of His cross; through Him, I say, whether things on earth or things in heaven. And although you were formerly alienated and hostile in mind, engaged in evil deeds, yet He has reconciled you in His fleshly body through death, in order to present you before Him holy and blameless and beyond reproach- if indeed you continue in the faith firmly established and steadfast, and not moved away from the hope of the gospel that you have heard, which was proclaimed in all creation under heaven, and of which I, Paul have been made a minister.
Col 1:19-23
Actually, I don't see that Col 1:20 says what you quoted above.
Hmmmmmmm.
A
ok the sermon is not what I wanted
I listened to it and he is giving me a headache. not a good sign. so let me give you a short song instead.
YouTube - ‪Who Am I - Casting Crowns‬‏
here are the lyrics... Remember you are not alone. I didn't think I was worthy either but God told me that was a form of questioning HIM and He got mad and asked me "do you think I would lie when I say I love you? Stop insulting what I have made. You are my child now go and love your brothers and sisters and remind them of My love" or something along those lines.........
Who am I?
That the Lord of all the earth,
Would care to know my name,
Would care to feel my hurt.
Who am I?
That the bright and morning star,
Would choose to light the way,
For my ever wandering heart.
Bridge:
Not because of who I am,
But because of what you've done.
Not because of what I've done,
But because of who you are.
Chorus:
I am a flower quickly fading,
Here today and gone tomorrow,
A wave tossed in the ocean,
A vapor in the wind.
Still you hear me when I'm calling,
Lord, you catch me when I'm falling,
And you've told me who I am.
I am yours.
I am yours.
Who am I?
That the eyes that see my sin
Would look on me with love
And watch me rise again.
Who am I?
That the voice that calmed the sea,
Would call out through the rain,
And calm the storm in me.
Not because of who I am,
But because of what you've done.
Not because of what I've done,
But because of who you are.
I am a flower quickly fading,
Here today and gone tomorrow,
A wave tossed in the ocean,
A vapor in the wind.
Still you hear me when I'm calling,
Lord, you catch me when I'm falling,
And you've told me who I am.
I am yours.
Not because of who I am,
But because of what you've done.
Not because of what I've done,
But because of who you are.
I am a flower quickly fading,
Here today and gone tomorrow,
A wave tossed in the ocean,
A vapor in the wind.
Still you hear me when I'm calling,
Lord, you catch me when I'm falling,
And you've told me who I am.
I am yours.
I am yours.
I am yours.
Whom shall I fear
Whom shall I fear
Cause I am yours..
I am yours..
I listened to it and he is giving me a headache. not a good sign. so let me give you a short song instead.
YouTube - ‪Who Am I - Casting Crowns‬‏
here are the lyrics... Remember you are not alone. I didn't think I was worthy either but God told me that was a form of questioning HIM and He got mad and asked me "do you think I would lie when I say I love you? Stop insulting what I have made. You are my child now go and love your brothers and sisters and remind them of My love" or something along those lines.........
Who am I?
That the Lord of all the earth,
Would care to know my name,
Would care to feel my hurt.
Who am I?
That the bright and morning star,
Would choose to light the way,
For my ever wandering heart.
Bridge:
Not because of who I am,
But because of what you've done.
Not because of what I've done,
But because of who you are.
Chorus:
I am a flower quickly fading,
Here today and gone tomorrow,
A wave tossed in the ocean,
A vapor in the wind.
Still you hear me when I'm calling,
Lord, you catch me when I'm falling,
And you've told me who I am.
I am yours.
I am yours.
Who am I?
That the eyes that see my sin
Would look on me with love
And watch me rise again.
Who am I?
That the voice that calmed the sea,
Would call out through the rain,
And calm the storm in me.
Not because of who I am,
But because of what you've done.
Not because of what I've done,
But because of who you are.
I am a flower quickly fading,
Here today and gone tomorrow,
A wave tossed in the ocean,
A vapor in the wind.
Still you hear me when I'm calling,
Lord, you catch me when I'm falling,
And you've told me who I am.
I am yours.
Not because of who I am,
But because of what you've done.
Not because of what I've done,
But because of who you are.
I am a flower quickly fading,
Here today and gone tomorrow,
A wave tossed in the ocean,
A vapor in the wind.
Still you hear me when I'm calling,
Lord, you catch me when I'm falling,
And you've told me who I am.
I am yours.
I am yours.
I am yours.
Whom shall I fear
Whom shall I fear
Cause I am yours..
I am yours..
J
I read you post but I am not understanding what you are saying,do you believe the word of God or is your trust in man?According to John 3:16 God so loved the world,the Father has no favorates and we all are given a freedon of choice.Nothing is predestined,God loves you so much He sent His only begotten Son to die for you,me and everyone else,He does not want any to perish as some man made religion would have you believe.My advice,follow Jesus and Gods word and let those man made beliefs alone,trust God not calvin or anyone else.Alot of religions will perish but the body of Christ will be saved.Jesus did not tell us to follow Calvinism or any other denomination,we are told by our Saviour to follow Him.God loves you,rebuke the devil,repent of any open or hidden sins and ask God to open your eyes to the truth of Him.Jesus tells us to ask and you shall recieve,knock and it shall be opened,seek and you shall find,so ask.Anyway,I pray this helps and may God the Father bless you,AMEN