I am not ok

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MaggieMye

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TeaRose, check your IN box.
 
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You know, I just don't know. I have been actively involved in fellowship and ministry for years. I can look at everyone else and say "God loves that person", but I just can't accept it for myself. I read my bible and I believe it is true for everyone but me. I just can't get past the thought that he must not like me, he could never love me. Yet I see him as a loving God who loves everyone else!

I absolutly DO believe in Christ. I AM born again. I have been for years. I just can't get that he loves me. I know he loves everyone else. I have taught that to so many. Jesus LOVES YOU. And then I think "how nice that he loves them. I wish he loved me." I have taught Sunday school, women's ministries, VBS, deacon's wife, youth group, Missionettes, Young at Heart, you name it. And I always have told everyone how much Jesus loves them. But I just can't get it for myself. Does that make any sense? I have felt this way since the 6th grade.


What happened to hurt you in 6th grade?
 
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Tearose84

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the question is what happened to hurt me from the moment I was born. My mother hated me and always told me how much she hated me, that she would leave me if she could, called me every name in the book them made them up. In the 6th grade my mother continually sent me to an old man's house to clean so I would get away from the house. There I was molested. At age 15 I was raped. Then went into a marraige in which my husband had affairs. You know, this really is not about forgiveness. I have forgiven every one of them. I did that years ago. My relationship with my mom is very good and healthy now. The old man is dead. The rapist is in prison. yes, I forgave them. Life sucks. People get hurt. I have moved on. Sort of. My problem is no longer with those people, but more the shame and unworthiness I feel about myself. The dirtiness. Never feeling good enough.
 
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The problem lies within yourself for it seems like you do not love yourself enough,or you have to forgive yourself,and if you had a rough life leave it behind,and Jesus makes all things new and all old things pass away,and God said cast all your cares upon Him for He cares for you.
Start fresh today,and did you truly forgive them.Your mom and people could of caused low self esteem in you,but you are not worthless,they are the bad guys not you.
 
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Abiding

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I felt this way as well at one time, I just could not see God's love for me.
Untill Jesus showed me that it is in giving His love to others, that we come to know the love He has for us.
It took a bit of time, but I was filled and overflowing with His love.
I would say what and why, but this is for Jesus to bring through healing in you. :)
Tearose, Jesus does love you with a love so perfect, that it would take an eternity to fully know.
I see His love for you.
You will know His love, trust and rest in Jesus in this.
Sometimes we need to wait on God, so all that is His perfect love in Jesus will be given, it will be rivers of living water flowing from you. :)
Trust all in Jesus to God Our Father, everything, no matter what . :)
Jesus will bring all in God Our Father's timing. :)

In Jesus, God bless.
pickles
amen...me too...He filled my heart with His love for others that was like a super power even if I was hated back....I know He loves me I just dont know why...but thats ok with me:) But there are the down times where i refuse to not trust. Even if He scourges me I know its His Love. Your a sweetpickle arnt you? :)
 
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the question is what happened to hurt me from the moment I was born. My mother hated me and always told me how much she hated me, that she would leave me if she could, called me every name in the book them made them up. In the 6th grade my mother continually sent me to an old man's house to clean so I would get away from the house. There I was molested. At age 15 I was raped. Then went into a marraige in which my husband had affairs. You know, this really is not about forgiveness. I have forgiven every one of them. I did that years ago. My relationship with my mom is very good and healthy now. The old man is dead. The rapist is in prison. yes, I forgave them. Life sucks. People get hurt. I have moved on. Sort of. My problem is no longer with those people, but more the shame and unworthiness I feel about myself. The dirtiness. Never feeling good enough.
Not a wonder Tearose. Your mother, the very person to whom you required validation of being love worthy rejected you in your most formative years. To feel anything other than what you have felt all your life would be abnormal. How could you not have a low opinion of yourself and low self-esteem ? Quit accepting responsibility for things that were not your fault. You were a mere child for goodness sake. You deserved to be loved then......and you deserve every bit as much to be loved now. Whether we know it or not, much or all of what we seek and find in our adult years is a reflection of what we see ourselves as being worth because of our experiences as children .......and those things which we were taught by those closest to us, that being our parents. You didn't stand a chance. But that was then and this is now. There is tons of material out there that will and has helped people like yourself. Avail yourself. Understanding is freedom.....and is a great aid in healing. Both in forgiving your perpetrators and most importantly, in learning that you are indeed worthy and loved. Especially by our heavenly Father. God bless and Godspeed on your journey :)
 

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Dear sister,

I am pressed for time right now, but I wanted to share with you my testimony, if I could. Many of the same experiences and feelings. I got mad at God one day for allowing my life to be ruined. He had an unexpected answer for me. Drop me a pm if you would like to hear it.

In Christ and in His love,
Vic
 
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Tearose84

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We should have "like" buttons or "You are wonderful" buttons. Thank you all for the encouragement. I have realized that I have become "comfortable" wit hthe thought that I was worthless, not good enough, etc. I just accepted it as truth. But having all these scriptures condensed in such a small post, it has helped me to say "You know what! I was wrong in all my thinking!" I just have to practice it every day. Thank you all for taking the time to help.
 
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Abiding

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We should have "like" buttons or "You are wonderful" buttons. Thank you all for the encouragement. I have realized that I have become "comfortable" wit hthe thought that I was worthless, not good enough, etc. I just accepted it as truth. But having all these scriptures condensed in such a small post, it has helped me to say "You know what! I was wrong in all my thinking!" I just have to practice it every day. Thank you all for taking the time to help.
Dear Tearose, I pray at this time in your life you will recieve(by faith) from God His love for you. He would be glorified in your glory the glory he wants to and will give all who are His. It would be Love towards Him to recieve His love towards you.. And it would honor the cross Christ bore for you. Im so sorry youve been throught it. And itll take time to peel off the thoughts in your head that have accumulated through life but if you do, you will honor your Father very much.
 

VW

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We should have "like" buttons or "You are wonderful" buttons. Thank you all for the encouragement. I have realized that I have become "comfortable" wit hthe thought that I was worthless, not good enough, etc. I just accepted it as truth. But having all these scriptures condensed in such a small post, it has helped me to say "You know what! I was wrong in all my thinking!" I just have to practice it every day. Thank you all for taking the time to help.
We cannot heal ourselves. We cannot change our self image. We are not able to feel better about ourselves and be truthful. It might work for a time, but the hurts and feelings of being spoiled will return, with more force than before.

I was an extremely happy baby, according to all accounts. I started walking at 7 seven months, and talking before I was a year and a half old. From there things went south fast. My mother was physically abusive, but worse, she was verbally abusive. No child should ever hear their mother say that she wished he had never been born, and say it with absolute conviction.

But the misery that can enter a life, one just on the cusp of adulthood, knows no bounds. No preteen should ever be subjected to sexual abuse. Well, I was for years. The damage done from this is beyond words to express. A normal relationship for one so abused is very difficult, if not impossible. The effects last a lifetime.

I blamed God for letting that happy child be spoiled in such a way. I was angry and confused. I said to Him that I would have been so much a better person if He had not let those things happen to me. I got an answer, but not what I expected.

God said that even that happy child is not what He wanted in His children. That if I had had a perfect life, it would not be pleasing to Him, would not be what He wanted. And worse, I would not have needs His love and mercy and healing.

The cross is the only answer, the cross of Jesus Christ, where we die with Him to the old life, to be raised with Him to what is truly a perfect life, in His resurrection.

I still at times feel worthless, but that is in and of myself. But I know the love of God that passes all my understanding. He gave His Son for me, even as messed up and spoiled as I was. My sense of self worth is based upon this, and not upon any supposed worth I might have had as a good person.

In Christ
 

kentappel

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I have spent months trying to figure out why I have all my life felt like God hated me. I have begged and begged him to love me. Someone was telling me about Calvinism and it finally dawned on me. I am not one of the elected. I am running into a brick wall because I was not predestined, not chosen. No matter how hard I try, God simply does not want me. It all makes so much sense now. What a crappy feeling. Good luck to the rest of you. Must be nice.

Notice how the passages below says whoever believes in Him should have everlasting life and whoever calls on the name of the Lord will be saved so I have every reason to believe you are one of those who is saved. It is the enemy, the devil who is the father of all lies, who wants you to think otherwise.

John 3:16
16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
Romans 10:13
13 For “whoever calls on the name of the LORD shall be saved.”
 
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the question is what happened to hurt me from the moment I was born. My mother hated me and always told me how much she hated me, that she would leave me if she could, called me every name in the book them made them up. In the 6th grade my mother continually sent me to an old man's house to clean so I would get away from the house. There I was molested. At age 15 I was raped. Then went into a marraige in which my husband had affairs. You know, this really is not about forgiveness. I have forgiven every one of them. I did that years ago. My relationship with my mom is very good and healthy now. The old man is dead. The rapist is in prison. yes, I forgave them. Life sucks. People get hurt. I have moved on. Sort of. My problem is no longer with those people, but more the shame and unworthiness I feel about myself. The dirtiness. Never feeling good enough.

I'm wondering about your mothers parents. Was she raised in hate? There are some families that the

from one generation to the next have a evil hate thing going. If this is so you need to break it. Speak

out loud to God using the authority he gave you in his name and tell Satan you break this curse on all
your family, past and present.

I know you have a lot going on already but being raped, things happen. For one thing rape....is still two

people being made one by sex. For this person to of done this terrible action to you he could have

passed evil things onto you. You need to command all these things way. Then the plain fact of it made

you a open doorway for things to come in you. Depression, low self worth an all.

You mentioned you forgave. That's good but you are still a open wound that hasn't healed. You know I

don't your case, but there are times that one can forgive someone with all their heart to the best of their

ability. But the ugly that hurt them is still in there.

Like lets say, yes you did forgive the best you could. And any time the thought of this ugly thing done to

you came to your mind you told yourself I forgave that. And you smashed the thoughts away in your
head.

The thought of hate came to your mind and you told yourself no I can't have hate in me....but hate was

there. For a very good reason and you didn't admit to yourself I hate them. To be fully released you

have to tell yourself and God out loud that you hate those people and then you have to ask God to help

you truly forgive and ask him to heal you. To be healed from this doesn't happen quickly. It takes time.

You have to think of it as a giant festered wound that for years and years it was getting infected worse

and worse. After time of God helping you after you admit the hate then you start getting better.


Times we some how put the blame on our own selves when bad things happen to us.

Then there's witch craft for if your mom, or you ever did any there is a hate thing that happens through

that. And that would need to be dealt with.

If none of this applies I'm sorry I bothered you. I'll keep praying for you.
 

pickles

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the question is what happened to hurt me from the moment I was born. My mother hated me and always told me how much she hated me, that she would leave me if she could, called me every name in the book them made them up. In the 6th grade my mother continually sent me to an old man's house to clean so I would get away from the house. There I was molested. At age 15 I was raped. Then went into a marraige in which my husband had affairs. You know, this really is not about forgiveness. I have forgiven every one of them. I did that years ago. My relationship with my mom is very good and healthy now. The old man is dead. The rapist is in prison. yes, I forgave them. Life sucks. People get hurt. I have moved on. Sort of. My problem is no longer with those people, but more the shame and unworthiness I feel about myself. The dirtiness. Never feeling good enough.
Tearose, I understand as I knew the same feeling of unworthyness, broken,no love.
It was when I called out to God, asking why these things happened, why did you allow this, why can I not know perfect love?
I was part angry at God, and in forgiving Him I recieved healing.
But still, there was a place in me so damaged, that it was beyond repair.
I asked Jesus how can you heal that which is so broken, that there is nothing left?
Jesus sad I do not heal it, I remove it.
Then replace it with my perfect presance, filling and bring that which is new.
Jesus will replace the broken, and replace it for you.
Then , the love you thought would never be, will fill you, overflowing!
You will be dazzled, and see all sorrow turn to dancing, joy!
Keep looking to Jesus, He is closer than you know. :)

In Jesus, God bless.
pickles
 
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the question is what happened to hurt me from the moment I was born. My mother hated me and always told me how much she hated me, that she would leave me if she could, called me every name in the book them made them up. In the 6th grade my mother continually sent me to an old man's house to clean so I would get away from the house. There I was molested. At age 15 I was raped. Then went into a marraige in which my husband had affairs. You know, this really is not about forgiveness. I have forgiven every one of them. I did that years ago. My relationship with my mom is very good and healthy now. The old man is dead. The rapist is in prison. yes, I forgave them. Life sucks. People get hurt. I have moved on. Sort of. My problem is no longer with those people, but more the shame and unworthiness I feel about myself. The dirtiness. Never feeling good enough.
None of us are good enough. Most people who go around feeling good about themselves have probably never had to pick up the pieces of their broken spirit off the floor after living through the stuff you had to endure. The fact that you still believe in God is truly AMAZING!! You must have an incredibly strong love for God or you would have abandoned Him long ago.

Now, don't think that God doesn't love you. Wanna know what God thinks of you? God put the color in your eyes. He made the shape of your face. He gave you your very own voice that no one else has. When you cry He hears you and knows that it is YOU who is crying. When you laugh He knows it is YOU too. When He sees you He sees the beauty in the face that He gave you. The shape of your eyes, the curve of your nose, the delicate contour of your lips. It may not seem so beautiful to you, but to God you are a one-of-a-kind masterpiece.

Why did He allow you to go through that horrible time? I like to think that He was preparing you to be a source of help and hope for other girls who are suffering, but thats just my opinion. We may never know in this life, but the bible says that we should not lean on our own understanding. That He will not only rescue us, but also bring us justice and reward us double for our trouble.

I pray that God somehow shows you His love for you so that you will know for sure that He loves you. God bless.

Gabriel
 

pickles

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amen...me too...He filled my heart with His love for others that was like a super power even if I was hated back....I know He loves me I just dont know why...but thats ok with me:) But there are the down times where i refuse to not trust. Even if He scourges me I know its His Love. Your a sweetpickle arnt you? :)
Welll, I do love the sour pickles, but thats because it fills and brings all the waters. :)
Often, it is those things we think are sour, that bring the healing of Jesus! :)

God bless.
pickles
 
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AnandaHya

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Tearose, I understand as I knew the same feeling of unworthyness, broken,no love.
It was when I called out to God, asking why these things happened, why did you allow this, why can I not know perfect love?
I was part angry at God, and in forgiving Him I recieved healing.
But still, there was a place in me so damaged, that it was beyond repair.
I asked Jesus how can you heal that which is so broken, that there is nothing left?
Jesus sad I do not heal it, I remove it.
Then replace it with my perfect presance, filling and bring that which is new.
Jesus will replace the broken, and replace it for you.
Then , the love you thought would never be, will fill you, overflowing!
You will be dazzled, and see all sorrow turn to dancing, joy!
Keep looking to Jesus, He is closer than you know. :)

In Jesus, God bless.
pickles
:) yeah what she said :) Don't forget its not about how YOU feel about yourself but that GOD loves you and God doesn't make junk. YOU are precious and beloved. Believe it because its TRUE :)

lol I think pickles is the sweetest too Abiding:) you can see the light of Jesus shining forth from all her words and post :) maybe one day I'll grow up to be as mature in Christ :)
 
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But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Rom 5:8

For if, while we were God’s enemies, we were reconciled to him through the death of his Son, how much more, having been reconciled, shall we be saved through his life! Rom 5:10

The bible declares that God loved us while we were enemies with Him, so if your feeling like your His enemy all the more reason to put your trust and hope in the reality of His love! The first crime ever mentioned about the devil was that he put doubt into the minds of adam and eve that God didn't love them to the fullest!
 
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But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Rom 5:8

For if, while we were God’s enemies, we were reconciled to him through the death of his Son, how much more, having been reconciled, shall we be saved through his life! Rom 5:10

The bible declares that God loved us while we were enemies with Him, so if your feeling like your His enemy all the more reason to put your trust and hope in the reality of His love! The first crime ever mentioned about the devil was that he put doubt into the minds of adam and eve that God didn't love them to the fullest!
God loves you friend and sent an objective proof of it in His Son! God's love isn't predicated on a subjective feeling or thought, It is absolute and immutable/unchanging! Again, God DEMONSTRATES His own love toward us in that Christ died for us! Don't let nothing tell you different!
 
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Brookeagle

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Dear Tearose84" I am a brand new member as of today. However, I may have something that may help. It is called "Healing of the broken hearted." It surely seems that your heat has been broken. I and my friend , who has the real background in this will be happy to lead you through this, either through an email chat or over the phone. This is very powerful stuff. You don't have to know where you'd like to be you just need to take the first step. The first step is to be willing to take the first step. My email s jmbrookeagle@gmail .com. Drop me a line when you are ready. It's wonderful stuff.
 
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Wow oh Wow! Been there, done that! That is what Mom told me, my aunts told me, and I told me. Wasn’t the truth at all, I found.

They had different talents than I had, their sense of priorities were different. The truth was that God made us all and gave us all talents. We each have a right to them,neither I or anyone else has a right to judge God as making inferior people. You have a right to be who God created you to be.

Please don’t go to Calvin, or Luther, or anyone else for information about God. Go to God. It is through God you know Him, that cancels out the not one of the elect theory. God let you know Him, you are elected.

If you are going through some trying times, God will use it for His good. Just sit quietly and listen. I use a tallit to help me know I am completely under the covering of God and just listen. God is omnipresent, His spirit is always near.