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They are enemies of the gospel for your sake but as touching ELECTION they are beloved for the father's sake for the gifts and call of God are irrevocable.
You see that it is the enemies of the gospel who are the beloved.
You are the boys who preach predestination and election, don't you know that Paul gets his doctrine from God's dealing with the Jews?
Jacob was chosen before he did right or wrong, before he accepted or rejected Christ. Election is not based upon righteousness or obedience but upon God's foreknowledge and choice only and cannot be revoked.
Moreover their rejection of Christ was predetermined and YOU could not have been saved with it.
It is prophesied by ALL the prophets that in the latter days Israel will be the greatest nation and Jerusalem the greatest city.
They are enemies of the gospel for your sake but as touching ELECTION they are beloved for the father's sake for the gifts and call of God are irrevocable.
You see that it is the enemies of the gospel who are the beloved.
You are the boys who preach predestination and election, don't you know that Paul gets his doctrine from God's dealing with the Jews?
Jacob was chosen before he did right or wrong, before he accepted or rejected Christ. Election is not based upon righteousness or obedience but upon God's foreknowledge and choice only and cannot be revoked.
Moreover their rejection of Christ was predetermined and YOU could not have been saved with it.
It is prophesied by ALL the prophets that in the latter days Israel will be the greatest nation and Jerusalem the greatest city.
They were church, the promise made to the church is heaven ... the promise made to the Jews is the earth.
If God reneges on His promise to the Jews that they shall possess the ends of the earth [where-so-ever their feet have trod] then might He also renege on the promise He has made to us.
God forbid that He should ever renege.
If God reneges on His promise to the Jews that they shall possess the ends of the earth [where-so-ever their feet have trod] then might He also renege on the promise He has made to us.
God forbid that He should ever renege.
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No, it does not say "the Day of the Lord", it says "the Lord's Day" and it is the only occurrence in all of Scripture of that phrase. The similar phrase "the Lord's supper" also occurs only once in the entire Bible. It is where the death of Christ is honored. In like manner it makes more sense to see "the Lord's day" to honor His resurrection. It is the first day of the week, which in our calendar happens to be Sunday.
Don't talk to me about Israel being prophesied in the OT. The prophecies were about Jesus Christ, not Israel (LK 24:25-27, 44-45, Jn 5:39-40). God fulfilled His promises to them in the OT by giving them the land filled with milk and honey. They tore His promises to pieces, broke His law, and tore His covenant right in the middle of God's grace who gave them His Son for them to be saved first. They rejected the Lord for the most (except the remnant). Don't tell me that God made them do it.
God knows the past, present, and future but that does not mean He forces people to do His will even if it goes against His holy character. People make choices regardless of God's desire for them to be saved (1Pe. 3:8) 's will for their lives. The nation of Israel set themselves against God from the very beginning of their inception to the point that Christ called them out in Mat. 23:34-39 and prophesied their judgment because they refused to believe in Him because they had hardened their hearts against Him. That was their choice.
The rejection of Christ was made from their own black hearts because they hated Him. Don't tell me that God made them hate Him and made them reject Christ. Calvinists think the same way.
Have you read Romans 3:9-20 and 9:6-8? Do you understand that Israel stopped being a nation once the wrath of God fell upon them AS PROPHESIED by Jesus and by Paul? A.D. 70 was the end of the nation because once the temple was destroyed, Israel's umbilical cord that connected them to God was broken through the rejection of His grace in Christ, and through a broken law that they thought was the way of salvation
Once you learn to put Christ first, you will discover that Israel was chosen to be the means whereby the incarnation would take place to reverse Adam's sin and bring salvation to the world.
Christin Zionists put Israel before Christ because they fail to see that once Christ came, the clock began to tick for Israel to be judged for all her sins against God.
Luke 19:40–44 (NASB95)
40 "But Jesus answered, “I tell you, if these become silent, the stones will cry out!”
41 When He approached Jerusalem, He saw the city and wept over it,
42 saying, “If you had known in this day, even you, the things which make for peace! But now they have been hidden from your eyes.
43 “For the days will come upon you when your enemies will throw up a barricade against you, and surround you and hem you in on every side,
44 and they will level you to the ground and your children within you, and they will not leave in you one stone upon another, because you did not recognize the time of your visitation.”
1 Thessalonians 2:14–16 (NASB95)
14 "For you, brethren, became imitators of the churches of God in Christ Jesus that are in Judea, for you also endured the same sufferings at the hands of your own countrymen, even as they did from the Jews,
15 who both killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets, and drove us out. They are not pleasing to God, but hostile to all men,
16 hindering us from speaking to the Gentiles so that they may be saved; with the result that they always fill up the measure of their sins. But wrath has come upon them to the utmost."
Matthew 23:34–38 (NASB95)
34 “Therefore, behold, I am sending you prophets and wise men and scribes; some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues, and persecute from city to city,
35 so that upon you may fall the guilt of all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, the son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar.
36 “Truly I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation.
37 “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, the way a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were unwilling.
38 “Behold, your house is being left to you desolate!"
The scriptures are clear. You need to repent from being a Zionist Christian instead of being a disciple of the Lord and a son of God through faith in Christ.
God knows the past, present, and future but that does not mean He forces people to do His will even if it goes against His holy character. People make choices regardless of God's desire for them to be saved (1Pe. 3:8) 's will for their lives. The nation of Israel set themselves against God from the very beginning of their inception to the point that Christ called them out in Mat. 23:34-39 and prophesied their judgment because they refused to believe in Him because they had hardened their hearts against Him. That was their choice.
The rejection of Christ was made from their own black hearts because they hated Him. Don't tell me that God made them hate Him and made them reject Christ. Calvinists think the same way.
Have you read Romans 3:9-20 and 9:6-8? Do you understand that Israel stopped being a nation once the wrath of God fell upon them AS PROPHESIED by Jesus and by Paul? A.D. 70 was the end of the nation because once the temple was destroyed, Israel's umbilical cord that connected them to God was broken through the rejection of His grace in Christ, and through a broken law that they thought was the way of salvation
Once you learn to put Christ first, you will discover that Israel was chosen to be the means whereby the incarnation would take place to reverse Adam's sin and bring salvation to the world.
Christin Zionists put Israel before Christ because they fail to see that once Christ came, the clock began to tick for Israel to be judged for all her sins against God.
Luke 19:40–44 (NASB95)
40 "But Jesus answered, “I tell you, if these become silent, the stones will cry out!”
41 When He approached Jerusalem, He saw the city and wept over it,
42 saying, “If you had known in this day, even you, the things which make for peace! But now they have been hidden from your eyes.
43 “For the days will come upon you when your enemies will throw up a barricade against you, and surround you and hem you in on every side,
44 and they will level you to the ground and your children within you, and they will not leave in you one stone upon another, because you did not recognize the time of your visitation.”
1 Thessalonians 2:14–16 (NASB95)
14 "For you, brethren, became imitators of the churches of God in Christ Jesus that are in Judea, for you also endured the same sufferings at the hands of your own countrymen, even as they did from the Jews,
15 who both killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets, and drove us out. They are not pleasing to God, but hostile to all men,
16 hindering us from speaking to the Gentiles so that they may be saved; with the result that they always fill up the measure of their sins. But wrath has come upon them to the utmost."
Matthew 23:34–38 (NASB95)
34 “Therefore, behold, I am sending you prophets and wise men and scribes; some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues, and persecute from city to city,
35 so that upon you may fall the guilt of all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, the son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar.
36 “Truly I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation.
37 “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, the way a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were unwilling.
38 “Behold, your house is being left to you desolate!"
The scriptures are clear. You need to repent from being a Zionist Christian instead of being a disciple of the Lord and a son of God through faith in Christ.
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"There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise." (Gal 3:28-29, KJV)
Israel lost the promise of land by disobedience.
Israel lost the promise of land by disobedience.
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"Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled." (Matt 24:34,
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"Truly I tell you: the present generation will live to see it all." (Matt 24:34, REB)
"I tell you in solemn truth that the present generation will certainly not pass away without all these things having first taken place." (Matt 24:34, Weymouth)
"Remember that all these things will happen before the people now living have all died." (Matt 24:34, GNB92)
It is real twisting of Scripture to see the things prior to Matt. 24:34 referring to some tribulation in our future! The grammar is quite clear in the KJV, and other translations saw the need to spell it out! This section is clearly about 70 AD!
Go to the OT symbolism to see what God coming on clouds can mean: Isa. 19:1; Nah 1:3; Psa.104:3
KJV)
"Truly I tell you: the present generation will live to see it all." (Matt 24:34, REB)
"I tell you in solemn truth that the present generation will certainly not pass away without all these things having first taken place." (Matt 24:34, Weymouth)
"Remember that all these things will happen before the people now living have all died." (Matt 24:34, GNB92)
It is real twisting of Scripture to see the things prior to Matt. 24:34 referring to some tribulation in our future! The grammar is quite clear in the KJV, and other translations saw the need to spell it out! This section is clearly about 70 AD!
Go to the OT symbolism to see what God coming on clouds can mean: Isa. 19:1; Nah 1:3; Psa.104:3
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When it comes to the seriousness of God's word, I do not "assume", or at least I strive not to "assume". I stick to:
"Now these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and Apollos for your sakes; that in us ye might learn not to go beyond the things which are written; that no one of you be puffed up for the one against the other." (1Cor 4:6, ASV)
The dispensational system is built upon assuming, reading into, and flat out rejection of the plain statements of Holy Scripture!
"Now these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and Apollos for your sakes; that in us ye might learn not to go beyond the things which are written; that no one of you be puffed up for the one against the other." (1Cor 4:6, ASV)
The dispensational system is built upon assuming, reading into, and flat out rejection of the plain statements of Holy Scripture!
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