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Why did God create such a big universe?
 

Cameron143

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So that we can better understand how awesome He is.
I'll give you an example. In our universe there are some 2.5 billion stars. We couldn't make 1. And God made these by merely speaking.
Compare that to the greatest minds on earth or our greatest inventors.
He is simply beyond Compare. It is little wonder the psalmist said...what is man that Thou shouldest considered him...
In many ways we have lost our awe of God. It would do us all some good to sit outside on a cloudless night and wonder anew at the Almighty.
 
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I'll give you an example. In our universe there are some 2.5 billion stars. We couldn't make 1. And God made these by merely speaking.
Compare that to the greatest minds on earth or our greatest inventors.
He is simply beyond Compare. It is little wonder the psalmist said...what is man that Thou shouldest considered him...
In many ways we have lost our awe of God. It would do us all some good to sit outside on a cloudless night and wonder anew at the Almighty.
You probably never heard of Carl Sagan and even he would say of the number of stars, billions and billions and his estimates were probably low. Cloudless nights in the cities do not give any sense of the sky any more with so much light pollution. This is also a possible contributing factor to mankind's loss of touch with reality in general and God in specific. But now the James Webb telescope provides a 'synthetic' or 'technical' or 'sense enhanced' view of the universe.
 

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You probably never heard of Carl Sagan and even he would say of the number of stars, billions and billions and his estimates were probably low. Cloudless nights in the cities do not give any sense of the sky any more with so much light pollution. This is also a possible contributing factor to mankind's loss of touch with reality in general and God in specific. But now the James Webb telescope provides a 'synthetic' or 'technical' or 'sense enhanced' view of the universe.
Try not to miss the forest for the trees. The heavens declare the glory of the Lord.
 
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Try not to miss the forest for the trees. The heavens declare the glory of the Lord.
How can I see the heavens if now your directing me to look for the forest? Make up your mind.
 

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How can I see the heavens if now your directing me to look for the forest? Make up your mind.
I hope you are jesting and if so it is very funny. If not, the point is that all God does is done for His glory. The innumerable stars are meant to reveal the majesty and creativity and the infinity of God. This is meant to produce in us a sense of awe at His magnificence. Even as I attempt to describe this to you I find my choice of words too small to even begin to describe how great God is. My mind is too small to fully express God. Likewise, the universe is too small to give expression to all that He is.
 
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I hope you are jesting and if so it is very funny. If not, the point is that all God does is done for His glory. The innumerable stars are meant to reveal the majesty and creativity and the infinity of God. This is meant to produce in us a sense of awe at His magnificence. Even as I attempt to describe this to you I find my choice of words too small to even begin to describe how great God is. My mind is too small to fully express God. Likewise, the universe is too small to give expression to all that He is.
Apparently you didn't understand my post read it again. Here it is....................
You probably never heard of Carl Sagan and even he would say of the number of stars, billions and billions and his estimates were probably low. Cloudless nights in the cities do not give any sense of the sky any more with so much light pollution. This is also a possible contributing factor to mankind's loss of touch with reality in general and God in specific. But now the James Webb telescope provides a 'synthetic' or 'technical' or 'sense enhanced' view of the universe.
 

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Apparently you didn't understand my post read it again. Here it is....................
You probably never heard of Carl Sagan and even he would say of the number of stars, billions and billions and his estimates were probably low. Cloudless nights in the cities do not give any sense of the sky any more with so much light pollution. This is also a possible contributing factor to mankind's loss of touch with reality in general and God in specific. But now the James Webb telescope provides a 'synthetic' or 'technical' or 'sense enhanced' view of the universe.
I know who Carl Sagan is and I understood your post. But your original post asks about it in relation to God. Looking at creation from a scientific perspective will never lead you, at least in my opinion, to anything more than a cognitive understanding. I thought you were looking for a greater understanding of God, not His handiwork.
 
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I know who Carl Sagan is and I understood your post. But your original post asks about it in relation to God. Looking at creation from a scientific perspective will never lead you, at least in my opinion, to anything more than a cognitive understanding. I thought you were looking for a greater understanding of God, not His handiwork.
Secularists have unknowingly disclosed and discovered many truths throughout history and God when necessary uses them in His work. This is well documented in the Bible. I am not that familiar with all the details but some people on this chat are.
 
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I'll give you an example. In our universe there are some 2.5 billion stars. We couldn't make 1. And God made these by merely speaking.
Compare that to the greatest minds on earth or our greatest inventors.
He is simply beyond Compare. It is little wonder the psalmist said...what is man that Thou shouldest considered him...
In many ways we have lost our awe of God. It would do us all some good to sit outside on a cloudless night and wonder anew at the Almighty.
The number you used is miniscule. God's handiwork is no longer available for viewing due to mans' pride in his own 'technology'.
There are approximately 200 billion trillion stars in the universe. Or, to put it another way, 200 sextillion. That's 200,000,000,000,000,000,000,000! The number is so big, it's hard to imagine.Oct 4, 2021
 

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Secularists have unknowingly disclosed and discovered many truths throughout history and God when necessary uses them in His work. This is well documented in the Bible. I am not that familiar with all the details but some people on this chat are.
I don't dismiss advances in culture through secular people. I believe Nimrod was a descendant of Cain and he built cities. Cyrus was a Persian king who delivered the children of Israel out of captivity. There are a multitude more. And while one can draw some satisfaction from discovery in God's handiwork, true satisfaction can only be found in Him.
But I obviously missed your original intention so I appreciate your forbearance and please forgive my intrusion on your topic.
 
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I don't dismiss advances in culture through secular people. I believe Nimrod was a descendant of Cain and he built cities. Cyrus was a Persian king who delivered the children of Israel out of captivity. There are a multitude more. And while one can draw some satisfaction from discovery in God's handiwork, true satisfaction can only be found in Him.
But I obviously missed your original intention so I appreciate your forbearance and please forgive my intrusion on your topic.
No intrusion. Seems all posts are susceptible to being understood according to a different viewpoint.
 

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I'll give you an example. In our universe there are some 2.5 billion stars. We couldn't make 1. And God made these by merely speaking.
Compare that to the greatest minds on earth or our greatest inventors.
He is simply beyond Compare. It is little wonder the psalmist said...what is man that Thou shouldest considered him...
In many ways we have lost our awe of God. It would do us all some good to sit outside on a cloudless night and wonder anew at the Almighty.
Sometimes I wonder , what if all the universe and planets are but cells in God's body. :unsure:Because we humans are made up of trillions of cells.
 
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Sometimes I wonder , what if all the universe and planets are but cells in God's body. :unsure:Because we humans are made up of trillions of cells.
Scarlett are you studying biology or a similar type book?
 

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Sometimes I wonder , what if all the universe and planets are but cells in God's body. :unsure:Because we humans are made up of trillions of cells.
It's a fine thought but God is a Spirit so not actually possible.
 
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It is so in one instace in order to allow us to search for Him until He finds us.
Sometimes I wonder , what if all the universe and planets are but cells in God's body. :unsure:Because we humans are made up of trillions of cells.
Hi Scarlett7297 I see that your question here is still a bit like the questions about souls coming down from heaven. There are some people here in the United States that believe souls were created before our bodies were born. There is a preacher in Arkansas, USA that teaches that souls pre exist. His name is Arnold Murray and this link is his ((((https://shepherdschapel.com/livestream)))))) My way of seeing things is not the way he sees them but you might see things the way he sees them. You may need to study this more but mostly focus on whole Bible is about Jesus as our Savior and how Jesus and His Father made a way for us to be adopted children with Jesus as our older brother.
 

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I'll give you an example. In our universe there are some 2.5 billion stars. We couldn't make 1. And God made these by merely speaking.
Compare that to the greatest minds on earth or our greatest inventors.
He is simply beyond Compare. It is little wonder the psalmist said...what is man that Thou shouldest considered him...
In many ways we have lost our awe of God. It would do us all some good to sit outside on a cloudless night and wonder anew at the Almighty.
Psalm 8:3-5 When I behold Your heavens, the work of Your fingers, the moon and the stars, which
You have set in place— what is man that You are mindful of him, or the son of man that You care
for him? You made him a little lower than the angels; You crowned him with glory and honor.…



Psalm 8:1-4

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Also Psalm 144:2-4 He is my steadfast love and my fortress, my stronghold and my deliverer. He is my
shield, in whom I take refuge, who subdues peoples under me. O LORD, what is man, that You regard
him, the son of man that You think of him? Man is like a breath; his days are like a passing shadow.…


And Job 7:16-18 I loathe my life! I would not live forever. Leave me alone, for my days are but a breath.
What is man that You should exalt him, that You should set Your heart upon him, that You attend to
him every morning, and test him every moment?