THE FIRST BLAST TO AWAKE WOMEN DEGENERATE

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ZNP

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Confirmation bias much. You're starting with a preconceived conclusion and working your Way backwards backwards. Pick any prophecy, pick a current event that might vaguely resemble it and say aha the prophecy is true.
Also I'm going to need to see some evidence that these YouTubers are demon possessed. Can you show me demonstrable evidence?
Vaccines are sorcery?... The Dark ages called. The Dark ages called, they want their superstitions back
Hmmm, looks like it is about to rain.
 

Dude653

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Hmmm, looks like it is about to rain.
Yeah exactly my point. It's about to rain.
It's a pretty safe bet that it is raining somewhere in the world right now. I'm a prophet now
 

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"To promote a woman to bear rule, superiority, dominion, or empire above any realm, nation, or city, is repugnant to nature; contumely to God, a thing most contrarious to his revealed will and approved ordinance; and finally, it is the subversion of good order, of all equity and justice.

In proof of this proposition, I will not be so curious as to gather whatsoever may amplify, set forth, or embellish the same; but I am purposed, even as I have spoken my conscience in most plain and few words, so to stand content with a simple proof of every member, bringing in for my witness God's ordinance in nature, his plain will revealed in his word, and by the minds of such as be most ancient amongst godly writers." page 6, TheFirstBlastOfTheTrumpetAgainstTheMonstrousRegimentOfWomen
https://archive.org/details/TheFirs...tTheMonstrousRegimentOfWomen/page/n5/mode/2up

Those are the words of: "John Knox, (born c. 1514, near Haddington, East Lothian, Scot.—died Nov. 24, 1572, Edinburgh), Scottish clergyman, leader of the Scottish Reformation and founder of Scottish Presbyterianism. Probably trained for the priesthood at the University of St. Andrews, he was ordained in 1540. He joined a group of Protestants who fortified St. Andrews Castle, but they were captured by French Catholics and carried away into slavery in 1547. Released through English intervention in 1549, he spent four years preaching in England, where he influenced developments in the Church of England. With the accession of the Catholic Mary I, he fled to the Continent. He served as pastor at Frankfurt am Main and Geneva until his return to Scotland in 1559. In England, Elizabeth I made common cause with the Scottish Presbyterians, lest the French gain control of Scotland to support its Catholic monarch, Mary, Queen of Scots. Knox survived conflicts with Mary and spent the rest of his life in setting up the Presbyterian church." Encyclopedia Britannica

I watched the ceremony in honor of Queen Elizabeth in St. Giles Cathedral yesterday and it brought to mind it was the church where John Knox was minister. I imagine Knox was rolling over in his tomb about the church, which now ordains woman to the pulpit, marries same-sex couples, and ordains openly professed homosexuals to the pulpit as well. The 41-page booklet by John Knox about women in the rule should be read by every Bible-believing Christian. It is amazing how those in the MAGA movement claim to be strict constructionist about the US Constitution, but feel at liberty to deny and disobey the commands of God in his word as they treat it as changeable by cultures. The arguments against Knox in the 16th century are similar to the religious feminist's arguments of today.

Lest I be misunderstood, I will be voting for Donald Trump or Ron DeSantis for president in 2024 and a straight Republican ticket in the coming midterm election as well, excepting any woman even if endorsed by Donald Trump.

"TheFirstBlastOfTheTrumpetAgainstTheMonstrousRegimentOfWomen" by Knox convinces me that is where we are heading. Watching Steve Bannon's War Room it seems half of his guests are women and it will become worse for sure unless God revives us, his people, and brings us back to his word.
Biblical doctrine to which you refer is limited to the Church alone. Secular leaders do what they will fpr the most part. Not God's will particularly.
 

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Also Paul said "I do not permit a woman to speak in church or to teach men and blah blah blah"
Notice he said I cannot God meaning that was his personal opinion
 

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Also Paul said "I do not permit a woman to speak in church or to teach men and blah blah blah"
Notice he said I cannot God meaning that was his personal opinion
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1Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

7 Whereunto I am ordained a preacher, and an apostle, (I speak the truth in Christ, and lie not) ; a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and verity.

8 I will therefore that men pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting.

9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;

10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.

11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.

12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.

I'm sure others have pointed this out. The man and The woman is referring to a specific man and woman.

The Man refers to Christ Jesus in verse 5 and then Adam in verse 13. The woman therefore refers to Eve.

Since this very clearly does refer to Christ Jesus as the man and the church, His bride as the woman, it is referring to apostasy of the church. When the church becomes apostate they say "this is my church, I make the rules" and they usurp authority from the man, Christ Jesus. The man is the incarnated word of God, if you say we don't listen to this word or that word, then you are usurping authority. When you ignore verses in the Bible, explain away others, and diminish others the church is usurping authority from Jesus Christ. That is the apostasy.

1. Does the Bible discriminate against women? Does it say for example that women cannot prophesy? No, on the contrary it says they can. Does it say they can't pray, or heal or evangelize or shepherd? Nope, women can do all the gifts. How about teach, surely Paul just said that women can't teach. Nope, there are other verses where Paul says the elder women should teach the younger. So there is only one kind of teaching Paul does not allow and that is usurping authority from The man.

2. So then is "teaching in a way that usurps authority from a man" sexist? No, not anymore than a man teaching in a way that usurps authority from a woman. Every church I have ever attended and I have visited a great number of churches, in every one the majority of the members were women. Not only so but these women had authority. They would be in charge of this, that or the other thing and you don't mess with them. They would give you directions to do this, that or whatever and everyone including the pastors followed those directions. In other words the women have their roles and the men have theirs. I have never once seen a child care of babies and toddlers where a man was in charge. It is always a woman, she tells you what to do and you had better not disobey. She rules the nursery with complete authority.
 
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Throughout both Biblical Times and for many ages after Christ, both Kings and Queens, in the Name of Christ, have ruled and exercised authority. Didn't you all see Queen Elizabeth's service recently? She was a Queen who often spoke of her faith in Jesus Christ and Her Majesty explained that faith in Him led her to do works of service for her people. Liberal misogynism has nothing to do with Biblical and traditional Christian doctrine. A Pro-Life Woman is far, far better than a Pro-Abort Man.
 
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Here's the Pro-Life Christian Woman, whose appointment by President Trump, led to the glorious downfall of Roe v Wade! Hallelujah!!! A battle Christians had been fighting for 50 years, and finally now, by God's Grace, we had a victory on June 24 earlier this year. The most important thing of all now is to pray and perservere and ensure it is a lasting Victory, by electing more Pro-Life Conservatives, whether Man or Woman is irrelevant, as God died for both Man and Woman on the Cross.

 

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Oh c'mon man, I was looking for a good laugh. The democrats need to stop hiding in the basement and get out and vote and debate, the country needs a good laugh.
If Sleepy Joe runs again in 2024 he will probably run his campaign from his basement, per usual.
 

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The point I take away from this is that if you have a brother who has been in the Lord, found faithful, a minister of the word, that we can seek out their opinion in matters.

Otherwise, who cares what anyone's opinion is.
I would consider the brother's opinion but would use or pray for discernment as to whether it was good spiritual counsel.
 

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The Man

1Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

7 Whereunto I am ordained a preacher, and an apostle, (I speak the truth in Christ, and lie not) ; a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and verity.

8 I will therefore that men pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting.

9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;

10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.

11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.

12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.

I'm sure others have pointed this out. The man and The woman is referring to a specific man and woman.

The Man refers to Christ Jesus in verse 5 and then Adam in verse 13. The woman therefore refers to Eve.

Since this very clearly does refer to Christ Jesus as the man and the church, His bride as the woman, it is referring to apostasy of the church. When the church becomes apostate they say "this is my church, I make the rules" and they usurp authority from the man, Christ Jesus. The man is the incarnated word of God, if you say we don't listen to this word or that word, then you are usurping authority. When you ignore verses in the Bible, explain away others, and diminish others the church is usurping authority from Jesus Christ. That is the apostasy.

1. Does the Bible discriminate against women? Does it say for example that women cannot prophesy? No, on the contrary it says they can. Does it say they can't pray, or heal or evangelize or shepherd? Nope, women can do all the gifts. How about teach, surely Paul just said that women can't teach. Nope, there are other verses where Paul says the elder women should teach the younger. So there is only one kind of teaching Paul does not allow and that is usurping authority from The man.

2. So then is "teaching in a way that usurps authority from a man" sexist? No, not anymore than a man teaching in a way that usurps authority from a woman. Every church I have ever attended and I have visited a great number of churches, in every one the majority of the members were women. Not only so but these women had authority. They would be in charge of this, that or the other thing and you don't mess with them. They would give you directions to do this, that or whatever and everyone including the pastors followed those directions. In other words the women have their roles and the men have theirs. I have never once seen a child care of babies and toddlers where a man was in charge. It is always a woman, she tells you what to do and you had better not disobey. She rules the nursery with complete authority.
The early stages of christianity, they met in people's homes and multiple people would speak. So the idea of one preacher having authority over an entire church is not biblical either. Like when the preacher says God said we're going on a corporate fast. Well have fun with that because God didn't tell me to fast
I remember one time this non-denominational church I used to attend, we were having a pastor's appreciation service and some preacher from another church got up and said "nobody asked me to get up here"... So I'm sitting in my state thinking okay then sit down somewhere you're out of order so anyway he goes into this long spiel bragging about how much is church pays him and trying to get trip everyone into coming out of their pockets for a "love offering" for the pastor
Anyway my point is nowhere in the Bible does it say that one man has the authority to dictate what God is saying someone else.
"Let each man work out his OWN salvation"
 

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Yeah exactly my point. It's about to rain.
It's a pretty safe bet that it is raining somewhere in the world right now. I'm a prophet now
I prophesy that there will be a flood somewhere this year in the world.
 

ZNP

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The early stages of christianity, they met in people's homes and multiple people would speak. So the idea of one preacher having authority over an entire church is not biblical either. Like when the preacher says God said we're going on a corporate fast. Well have fun with that because God didn't tell me to fast
I remember one time this non-denominational church I used to attend, we were having a pastor's appreciation service and some preacher from another church got up and said "nobody asked me to get up here"... So I'm sitting in my state thinking okay then sit down somewhere you're out of order so anyway he goes into this long spiel bragging about how much is church pays him and trying to get trip everyone into coming out of their pockets for a "love offering" for the pastor
Anyway my point is nowhere in the Bible does it say that one man has the authority to dictate what God is saying someone else.
"Let each man work out his OWN salvation"
That is a good point, if you are going to choose an overseer it is like choosing the house where you are going to meet. Obviously you would want a husband and wife, that way anyone, brother or sister could come to the meeting and not worry that they were the first one there or that you would have some awkward situation.
 

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I prophesy that there will be a flood somewhere this year in the world.
Perhaps you haven't been paying attention to the news, instead of this year try this week.
 

ZNP

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Not when Paul says he is specifically stating his own personal opinion
That is your opinion, I will choose to listen to Peter's opinion on this.