A closer look at the rights of public platforms to censor posts
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The thing that is concerning about the Jones case is that Alex Jones lied.
He lied when he said the whole thing was a hoax. He lied about dead kids, grieving parents,etc....
He's a liar.
An apologetic ad nauseam liar.
Meanwhile, other people who heard his lies felt compelled to act out violently against grieving parents.
Supposedly.
These violent people terrorized the parents. How did they get their address, btw?
No news of their being sued.
No reports of arrests.
Those supposed offenders caused grave distress to the grieving parents. Vandalism,terroristic threats, stalking, etc.... All illegal offensive acts.
Yet, not a peep about their being arrested, sued, for offenses far beyond lies.
Instead Alex Jones is held accountable for hurting the feelings of grieving parents.
While those who caused physical,emotional , harm to them, and violated their private property with acts of vandalism are ghosts.
Jones is a liar who lied.
And he's being threatened with the loss of all he's worked for.
Unknown terrorists,those who supposedly according to those grieving parents terrorized them,threatened,stalked, them, are scot-free.
Thought policing.
Jones is a scapegoat.
Free speech under threat. While domestic terrorism remains unaddressed.
''HE HURT OUR FEELINGS!PAY US!Learn your lesson.''
Certain ones in Jones audience threatened us,harassed us,vandalized our property, stalked us.
But that's OK?
He lied when he said the whole thing was a hoax. He lied about dead kids, grieving parents,etc....
He's a liar.
An apologetic ad nauseam liar.
Meanwhile, other people who heard his lies felt compelled to act out violently against grieving parents.
Supposedly.
These violent people terrorized the parents. How did they get their address, btw?
No news of their being sued.
No reports of arrests.
Those supposed offenders caused grave distress to the grieving parents. Vandalism,terroristic threats, stalking, etc.... All illegal offensive acts.
Yet, not a peep about their being arrested, sued, for offenses far beyond lies.
Instead Alex Jones is held accountable for hurting the feelings of grieving parents.
While those who caused physical,emotional , harm to them, and violated their private property with acts of vandalism are ghosts.
Jones is a liar who lied.
And he's being threatened with the loss of all he's worked for.
Unknown terrorists,those who supposedly according to those grieving parents terrorized them,threatened,stalked, them, are scot-free.
Thought policing.
Jones is a scapegoat.
Free speech under threat. While domestic terrorism remains unaddressed.
''HE HURT OUR FEELINGS!PAY US!Learn your lesson.''
Certain ones in Jones audience threatened us,harassed us,vandalized our property, stalked us.
But that's OK?
Eh, a ban won't kill ya. My uncle gets banned all the time. He refers to it as being "in facebook jail."
Going by some of the racist jokes he shares in our family group text... Gee, I can't imagine WHY he would be banned.
Going by some of the racist jokes he shares in our family group text... Gee, I can't imagine WHY he would be banned.
Sorry, you don't have to tell me twice that I'm not welcome on your platform. I shook off the dust as a testimony against them and was gone.
Dr. Fauci lied, that is no longer up for debate. He lied to Rand Paul, I'm tired of enumerating his lies, many already have so if you are not aware then we have other threads where you can educate yourself. His lies led to thousands of people being killed by the treatment he mandated for Covid. That also is provable, again, if you don't know that talk to PennEd, he'll get you up to speed. That is only in the US, if you look worldwide it will be hundreds of thousands died because of the treatment he mandated (in the US) and prescribed which others followed in other countries. He influenced the prohibition of using effective treatments which also caused people to die and get very sick.
He played an influential role in the shutdown which damaged small businesses across this country and which harmed every single kid who had their school shut down or who had to wear a mask at school.
Meanwhile Dr. Fauci doubled his net worth during the pandemic. A public servant profiting greatly off the very, very bad advice he was ramming down everyone's throat.
Much of the "fact checking" done on these platforms concerning the pandemic, treatment and vaccine were lies. Everything that Alex Jones did that was bad, what they did was orders of magnitude worse.
He played an influential role in the shutdown which damaged small businesses across this country and which harmed every single kid who had their school shut down or who had to wear a mask at school.
Meanwhile Dr. Fauci doubled his net worth during the pandemic. A public servant profiting greatly off the very, very bad advice he was ramming down everyone's throat.
Much of the "fact checking" done on these platforms concerning the pandemic, treatment and vaccine were lies. Everything that Alex Jones did that was bad, what they did was orders of magnitude worse.
Ah, it's a conspiracy thing.
Did you know we have a whole conspiracy forum here? This thread really should have been there.
Of course this IS the misc. forum, which leaves the door wide open to even threads which already have their proper forums. So... Yeah, it's probably okay here too.
Did you know we have a whole conspiracy forum here? This thread really should have been there.
Of course this IS the misc. forum, which leaves the door wide open to even threads which already have their proper forums. So... Yeah, it's probably okay here too.
I have no idea what you are talking about.
If you tell me you are a Christian and you want to start a bakery but that you will be sticking to your principles and morals. That is fine, that is transparent. If you want me to invest in your business then that is fine. I will not be surprised when you refuse to decorate a cake for a gay couple's wedding.
But if you tell me that your goal is to make money and maximize my profit and you show me all the incredible tools that Walmart has to maximize profit over every inch of the store and I invest in that then I expect you to stick to that. If Walmart said in their annual report that they have decided to focus on being anti MAGA, then that is fine.
But there is no morals and no principles when you tell me one thing and do something contrary to it. If it turns out the Mike Lindell was some of the most profitable square footage in the entire store then you bet, shareholders can sue.
Shareholders are the owners of the store. The store does not belong to the CEO to do according to his personal desires.
If you tell me you are a Christian and you want to start a bakery but that you will be sticking to your principles and morals. That is fine, that is transparent. If you want me to invest in your business then that is fine. I will not be surprised when you refuse to decorate a cake for a gay couple's wedding.
But if you tell me that your goal is to make money and maximize my profit and you show me all the incredible tools that Walmart has to maximize profit over every inch of the store and I invest in that then I expect you to stick to that. If Walmart said in their annual report that they have decided to focus on being anti MAGA, then that is fine.
But there is no morals and no principles when you tell me one thing and do something contrary to it. If it turns out the Mike Lindell was some of the most profitable square footage in the entire store then you bet, shareholders can sue.
Shareholders are the owners of the store. The store does not belong to the CEO to do according to his personal desires.
The bakery guy was in business to make money, also, but that gay couple wanted to force him to sell
them something that was not even on his "menu." So, big difference in the hypotheticals you are giving.
Also, Walmart is controlled by the Walton family. Sam Walton's heirs own over 50 percent of
Walmart through both their holding company Walton Enterprises and their individual holdings.
Sounds like if you disagree with someone's principles, you wish to say they have none.
them something that was not even on his "menu." So, big difference in the hypotheticals you are giving.
Also, Walmart is controlled by the Walton family. Sam Walton's heirs own over 50 percent of
Walmart through both their holding company Walton Enterprises and their individual holdings.
Sounds like if you disagree with someone's principles, you wish to say they have none.
It doesn't matter who "controls" the company. The fact is they sold shares to people and unless they were informed about Walmarts goals they have every right to say they were deceived.
The Baker's menu included decorating wedding cakes, in fact they had a reputation as one of the best. The issue is can the gay couple force him to make something he doesn't want to and which violates his principles. The answer is no, and if this person had someone who had invested in the business and they understood that these are his principles then it would be fine. The point you are missing is that if it is your business, 100% yours, then of course you don't have to disclose to others what your principles are. No one can sue you for breach of fiduciary responsibility. That however, is not the case with a publicly trade company and Walmart is a publicly traded company. There are a lot of requirements in order to get listed on the NYSE and Walmart met those requirements because they wanted access to the capital that can be raised. Now, everyone who bought shares did so with an understanding based on what Walmart revealed and if that was deceitful they can sue.
Let's use another example. You lease a car. That is a legal contract. They show you the car, you test drive it, everything is find. But when you get the car it has a pro choice message painted on the side of the car. That was not part of the deal. Can you complain? Of course.
The Baker's menu included decorating wedding cakes, in fact they had a reputation as one of the best. The issue is can the gay couple force him to make something he doesn't want to and which violates his principles. The answer is no, and if this person had someone who had invested in the business and they understood that these are his principles then it would be fine. The point you are missing is that if it is your business, 100% yours, then of course you don't have to disclose to others what your principles are. No one can sue you for breach of fiduciary responsibility. That however, is not the case with a publicly trade company and Walmart is a publicly traded company. There are a lot of requirements in order to get listed on the NYSE and Walmart met those requirements because they wanted access to the capital that can be raised. Now, everyone who bought shares did so with an understanding based on what Walmart revealed and if that was deceitful they can sue.
Let's use another example. You lease a car. That is a legal contract. They show you the car, you test drive it, everything is find. But when you get the car it has a pro choice message painted on the side of the car. That was not part of the deal. Can you complain? Of course.
There are multiple holes in your logic here. I would spend some time explaining them... But no. You have obviously spent much time gathering your arguments, though perhaps not enough time collating and curating them. There is no point explaining the holes because you would not listen. You would just throw out more rhetoric.
Basically: You are determined to be mad and will not be dissuaded by mere facts and logic.
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Oh shoot, I can't pass up one logic flaw. I know it'll be a waste of time, but it's just too easy.
The analogy about the car lease would only be accurate if Youtube and Facebook slapped their messages all over your posts and videos.
OR
The analogy about the car lease would only be accurate if instead of putting their own pro-choice bumper sticker, the car company said you could not put your own bumper sticker on the car.
Basically: You are determined to be mad and will not be dissuaded by mere facts and logic.
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Oh shoot, I can't pass up one logic flaw. I know it'll be a waste of time, but it's just too easy.
The analogy about the car lease would only be accurate if Youtube and Facebook slapped their messages all over your posts and videos.
OR
The analogy about the car lease would only be accurate if instead of putting their own pro-choice bumper sticker, the car company said you could not put your own bumper sticker on the car.
Amen!
I believe that I have had personal experience with this as well. When people have "done me wrong" in the past - and, I decided to [just] "let God handle it" - (Oh, man!) - God delivered better "revenge" than I could ever hope to achieve.
So - "a word to the wise" - if you are a born-again Christian - do not seek revenge against those who have done wrong to you - instead, "let God handle it" - in His time, He will accomplish that which your teeny-tiny human mind could never come up with on its own...
And, if/when you see what He has accomplished, it just may have you laughing, crying, and praising Him for His great Power and Wisdom.
Whether you realize it or not...
"God takes care of His own."
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If you are not a born-again Christian - "you might want to rethink that whole thing" - and put your belief, faith, and trust in Almighty God the Creator and His only-begotten Son, the Lord Jesus Christ.
I believe that I have had personal experience with this as well. When people have "done me wrong" in the past - and, I decided to [just] "let God handle it" - (Oh, man!) - God delivered better "revenge" than I could ever hope to achieve.
So - "a word to the wise" - if you are a born-again Christian - do not seek revenge against those who have done wrong to you - instead, "let God handle it" - in His time, He will accomplish that which your teeny-tiny human mind could never come up with on its own...
And, if/when you see what He has accomplished, it just may have you laughing, crying, and praising Him for His great Power and Wisdom.
Whether you realize it or not...
"God takes care of His own."
~
If you are not a born-again Christian - "you might want to rethink that whole thing" - and put your belief, faith, and trust in Almighty God the Creator and His only-begotten Son, the Lord Jesus Christ.
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