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Accusing someone of lying is accusing them of knowingly presenting a false statement as true (or a true statement as false). That word "knowingly" is critical. Where someone presents a false statement as true but does not know their statement is actually false is not lying, but merely deceived.
Back off your rhetoric and stop being so ****** judgmental, for the measure with which you judge others WILL be used to judge you.
Back off your rhetoric and stop being so ****** judgmental, for the measure with which you judge others WILL be used to judge you.
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Dear Brother,
Key to understanding is to follow exactly = word for word = meaning by meaning = what our LORD says to us.
Jesus answered and said to them, “The sons of this age marry and are given in marriage.
But those who are counted worthy to attain that age, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry nor are given in marriage; nor can they die anymore,
for they are equal/like to the angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection.
In this current age/earth/flesh = men and women can reproduce but not in the spiritual realm and the age to come for those who are Resurrected.
Sons of God is given male gender designation in BOTH realms = the Scriptures do not specify if they are asexual but that may be true.
Therefore, according to God's word, the fallen angels that departed their spiritual domain came down to earth they entered into this age/realm their God given designation, "sons of God", in male gender.
As such the "sons of God" were able to procreate with the "daughters(female gender) of men".
That is clear from the Witness of Scripture given to us = Genesis, Luke, 2 Peter, Jude
There is not one single scripture to that argues against this or speaks of the "sons of God" as sons of Adam going into the "daughters of men".
God never lies and HE is not the author of confusion AND we are commanded to believe every word and not add or take away from His words.
In Post #299 a brother violated God's words and changed the meaning to satisfy unbelief which is sin.
Post #300 brings forth the actual words of God in Genesis 6:4 without "adding to or taking away".
Dear Brother,
Key to understanding is to follow exactly = word for word = meaning by meaning = what our LORD says to us.
Jesus answered and said to them, “The sons of this age marry and are given in marriage.
But those who are counted worthy to attain that age, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry nor are given in marriage; nor can they die anymore,
for they are equal/like to the angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection.
In this current age/earth/flesh = men and women can reproduce but not in the spiritual realm and the age to come for those who are Resurrected.
Sons of God is given male gender designation in BOTH realms = the Scriptures do not specify if they are asexual but that may be true.
Therefore, according to God's word, the fallen angels that departed their spiritual domain came down to earth they entered into this age/realm their God given designation, "sons of God", in male gender.
As such the "sons of God" were able to procreate with the "daughters(female gender) of men".
That is clear from the Witness of Scripture given to us = Genesis, Luke, 2 Peter, Jude
There is not one single scripture to that argues against this or speaks of the "sons of God" as sons of Adam going into the "daughters of men".
God never lies and HE is not the author of confusion AND we are commanded to believe every word and not add or take away from His words.
In Post #299 a brother violated God's words and changed the meaning to satisfy unbelief which is sin.
Post #300 brings forth the actual words of God in Genesis 6:4 without "adding to or taking away".
I'm about to post something which may help you, I mean, it CAN help you if you read it.....
1 John 3:1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
1 John 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God,
Hebrews 1:5, KJV: For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?
Those first two verses DEFINE what a "son of God" is and there are several more which do the same. They say that WE are sons of God. That means WE who are believers in Jesus Christ. Please show me ONE(1), UNO, a single verse which says "Angels are sons of God" or anything close to that. Just ONE. But twisting the Word of God, adding to it, and taking away from it IS a sin. I will agree with you there.
1 John 3:1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
1 John 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God,
Hebrews 1:5, KJV: For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?
Those first two verses DEFINE what a "son of God" is and there are several more which do the same. They say that WE are sons of God. That means WE who are believers in Jesus Christ. Please show me ONE(1), UNO, a single verse which says "Angels are sons of God" or anything close to that. Just ONE. But twisting the Word of God, adding to it, and taking away from it IS a sin. I will agree with you there.
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Please don't say I lied if you don't know what you talking about.
First off, you don't know how to use the Strongs clearly. I will provide for you without name-calling like a child as you are doing.
What do the text and verses say> In Genesis 6?
6 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
6 And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
I know it is hard for some to understand the Context and the systemic range of meaning of words in the Bible.
son of God can mean angels, which I said in a post earlier. I guess you did not see that. In the context of Genesis 6, the whole Chapter speaks of men. Evil men have done, men of flesh verse 3. First, if angels caused this issue, why is God Punishing men if ANGELS WERE THE ONES SLEEPING WITH EARTHLY WOMEN? I did not know a flood could kill an angelic being. Wow!
The meaning of " son of God" has more than one depending on how it is used, and I provided biblical examples. You may disagree but saying Sir, you lied is ridiculous and reflects on your lack to refute what was said in context to Genesis chapter 6.
to finish with your little Strongs post :
of God
הָֽאֱלֹהִים֙ (hā·’ĕ·lō·hîm)
Article | Noun - masculine plural
Strong's Hebrew 430: 1) (plural) 1a) rulers, judges 1b) divine ones 1c) angels 1d) gods 2) (plural intensive-singular meaning) 2a) god, goddess 2b) godlike one 2c) works or special possessions of God 2d) the (true) God 2e) God
'ĕlōhîm has many meanings, which were listed: I will show you your error.
The word "son", is it speaking of angels or men?
Chapter 6 says it speaks of men, which God himself said over 5 times. Never once used them in the context of a spiritual being.
The word"God" is that used to mean angels of the Being who created man, and Genesis 6 I speaks of the evil they did?
The text says that Elohim, the Creator of man, called the man a son. Why? Because of the context of man from the Biblical time frame, the man was still pretty new to the fall that happened a few chapters earlier. it was not until Abraham really that we Knew more names of the Lord God which were not mentioned other than Elohim until chapter 2, where "Lord" is said = Yᵊhōvâ
I guess you think "son of God" means angels in chapter 6 of Genesis yet you remove the context of what man did not an angel. Doesn't fit.
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All you did here was try to validate your error(which is a lie) = which was changing the words of God "Sons of God" to "sons of men".
This is a horrific sin and you did it willfully.
Fear God and OBEY God's commandments of which is "Do not lie" and "Do not add to or take away from HIS words".
Can you SEE this as my Love in Christ for you???
Do you not realize that God will hold you accountable for changing HIS words for your carnal natures desire?
You should rejoice that your brother loves you enough to reveal to you your error that you may escape judgment for it.
For we all must give an account for every word spoken.
Take this in earnest prayer to the LORD and seek His Truth.
Reject every word of man that speaks against every word of God.
the LORD says man shall not live by bread alone but by every word that comes from the mouth of God.
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Not a single attack against you but against the sin of what you are committing = changing God's word into a lie.
Every word of God is flawless;
He is a shield to those who take refuge in Him.
Do not add to His words,
lest He rebuke you and prove you a liar.
Proverbs 30:5-6
i prayed last night for you and will continue to pray that God opens your closed heart, that you may gain repentance unto the Truth.
Every word of God is flawless;
He is a shield to those who take refuge in Him.
Do not add to His words,
lest He rebuke you and prove you a liar.
Proverbs 30:5-6
i prayed last night for you and will continue to pray that God opens your closed heart, that you may gain repentance unto the Truth.
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Dear Brother, before i respond to your excellent Post i want to bring to your attention, that you may benefit, how a lie is born by willingly rejecting God's words and even worse, by changing God's words for the sake of willful ignorance/unbelief and man centered religion.
Please examine Posts 299, 300 and 305
Please examine Posts 299, 300 and 305
Why harden your heart???
Why name call???
Why not accept the Truth as Jesus said for you to do = "It is written, man shall not live by bread alone but by every word of God."
What brings glory to God? To deny His words and change them or to obey them?
i only pray for your blessing and not for harm.
Why name call???
Why not accept the Truth as Jesus said for you to do = "It is written, man shall not live by bread alone but by every word of God."
What brings glory to God? To deny His words and change them or to obey them?
i only pray for your blessing and not for harm.
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Hello Brother,
Did Christ love the Pharisees and Saduccees?
YES, HE did.
Did HE say to them, "it's OK to change God's words"
NO, HE did not.
Did any of the Apostles say "let's just love one another, who cares what the Scripture says, let's just agree to disagree"
NO, they did not.
If you examine his Post #299 and again in Post #307, he willfully determined to change "sons of God" to "sons of men"
That is a really, really bad thing to do.
Did Christ love the Pharisees and Saduccees?
YES, HE did.
Did HE say to them, "it's OK to change God's words"
NO, HE did not.
Did any of the Apostles say "let's just love one another, who cares what the Scripture says, let's just agree to disagree"
NO, they did not.
If you examine his Post #299 and again in Post #307, he willfully determined to change "sons of God" to "sons of men"
That is a really, really bad thing to do.
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Brothers CS1 , oyster67 , Shepherd and all others
Because of the Great Love that God has for us, and the great danger of changing God's words to conform to man's understanding, i am requesting that we all obey God and make a strong commitment not to alter or change His words.
Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.
Matthew 5:17-20
Every word of God is flawless;
He is a shield to those who take refuge in Him.
Do not add to His words,
lest He rebuke you and prove you a liar.
Proverbs 30:5-6
The words of the LORD are flawless, like silver refined in a furnace, like gold purified sevenfold.
Because of the Great Love that God has for us, and the great danger of changing God's words to conform to man's understanding, i am requesting that we all obey God and make a strong commitment not to alter or change His words.
Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.
Matthew 5:17-20
Every word of God is flawless;
He is a shield to those who take refuge in Him.
Do not add to His words,
lest He rebuke you and prove you a liar.
Proverbs 30:5-6
The words of the LORD are flawless, like silver refined in a furnace, like gold purified sevenfold.
