Is The Earth Flat Or Round?

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Is The Earth Flat Or Round?


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GaryA

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Actually the Sun never sets on a flat earth because instead of going around the Earth like a hula hoop, instead it circles the perimeter of the flat Earth like a halo. This is somewhat problematic because when you think about it, that arrangement would never allow for darkness because the Sun would be shinning everywhere all the time-- brighter in some spots while dimmer in others but none would be dark.
It does not circle "the perimeter of the flat Earth" - it circles above the earth between the 'tropic' lines.

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If you suggest that the light of the sun would be "brighter in some spots while dimmer in others"...

1) What exactly is it that would cause this to be - as opposed to the same amount of light everywhere?

2) Why do you not believe that there could be enough of [#1 answer] to cause complete darkness if the sun was far enough away?

Why would you believe that the light of the sun was "continually more dim" with distance yet could always be seen at an 'infinite' distance?

The answer to the first question is [the] 'atmosphere'. More particularly - the moisture, dust, smoke, etc. that is in the 'atmosphere'.

If you get far enough away from a flashlight - it will no longer be seen. Same thing. No difference.

The sun does not have 'infinite' brightness. The light of the sun is diminished by the 'atmosphere'.

With a sufficient amount of 'atmosphere' between you and the sun - you will not be able to see its light.

You should also keep in mind that, in the Flat Earth model, the sun is not "a thousand times larger" than the earth - it is "a thousand times smaller" than the earth. (It might help you to "visualize" it better.)
 

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You should also keep in mind that, in the Flat Earth model, the sun is not "a thousand times larger" than the earth - it is "a thousand times smaller" than the earth. (It might help you to "visualize" it better.)
Based on the diameter I don't believe there would be enough fuel / pressure to enable fusion and to sustain it as there would be insufficient mass.
 

GaryA

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Based on the diameter I don't believe there would be enough fuel / pressure to enable fusion and to sustain it as there would be insufficient mass.
There you go again - trying to define/describe Flat Earth from a Ball Earth POV... :eek:

What if the modern-science explanation is not actually the way God set it up...? ;)

(whether or not you are correct in your suggestion)
 

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I’m leaning towards flat, I don’t see any conclusive evidence in scripture to disprove a flat, stationary earth or prove a space-ball.
Also, I was a land surveyor for 20+ years, curvature observation and calculation are completely absent in this field.
In my opinion, either the globe is tremendously larger than stated (which is unlikely for obvious reasons) or it’s flat.
As Christian’s we must remember scripture is the only thing we can be absolutely sure of. Since scripture does not state either way, we should resort to observation. By my observation there’s no curve. 🤷‍♂️
For those of you without survey knowledge who like to argue for the sake of arguing there are some flat earth surveying and line of sight videos online. Suggest you check them out before letting your thumbs fly on this post.
 

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Here is a video to start with.

SUNSET ON FLAT EARTH EXPLAINED
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Osy6upj03gtz/
It did address my questions. Obviously, you don't have an answer. I did not ask about sunsets, I asked about the diameter of the sun, the distance from the earth and the average length in miles per day traveling around the earth. OK, just forget it.
 

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At places of comparable latitude North and South, dawn and dusk happen very differently than they would on a spinning ball, but precisely how they should on a flat Earth. In the North dawn and dusk come slowly and last far longer than in the South where they come and go very quickly. Certain places in the North twilight can last for over an hour while at comparable Southern latitudes within a few minutes the sunlight completely disappears. This is inexplicable on a uniformly spinning, wobbling ball Earth but is exactly what is expected on a flat Earth with the Sun traveling faster, wider circles over the South and slower, narrower circles over the North.
 

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If the Sun circles over and around the Earth every 24 hours, steadily travelling from Tropic to Tropic every 6 months, it follows that the Northern, central region would annually receive far more heat and sunlight than the Southern circumferential region. Since the Sun must sweep over the larger Southern region in the same 24 hours it has to pass over the smaller Northern region, its passage must necessarily be proportionally faster as well. This perfectly explains the differences in Arctic/Antarctic temperatures, seasons, length of daylight, plant and animal life; this is why the Antarctic morning dawn and evening twilight are very abrupt compared with the North; and this explains why many midsummer Arctic nights the Sun does not set at all!
 

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The “Midnight Sun” is an Arctic phenomenon occurring annually during the summer solstice where for several days straight an observer significantly far enough north can watch the Sun traveling circles over-head, rising and falling in the sky throughout the day, but never fully setting for upwards of 72+ hours! If the Earth were actually a spinning globe revolving around the Sun, the only place such a phenomenon as the Midnight Sun could be observed would be at the poles. Any other vantage point from 89 degrees latitude downwards could never, regardless of any tilt or inclination, see the Sun for 24 hours straight. To see the Sun for an entire revolution on a spinning globe at a point other than the poles, you would have to be looking through miles and miles of land and sea for part of the revolution!
 

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The establishment claims the Midnight Sun IS experienced in Antarctica but they conveniently do not have any uncut videos showing this, nor do they allow independent explorers to travel to Antarctica during the winter solstice to verify or refute these claims. Conversely, there are dozens of uncut videos publicly available showing the Arctic Midnight Sun and it has been verified beyond any shadow of a doubt.
 

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The Royal Belgian Geographical Society in their “Expedition Antarctique Belge,” recorded that during the most severe part of the Antarctic winter, from 71 degrees South latitude onwards, the sun sets on May 17th and is not seen above the horizon again until July 21st! This is completely at odds with the ball-Earth theory, but easily explained by the flat-Earth model. The Midnight Sun is seen from high altitudes in extreme Northern latitudes during Arctic summer because the Sun, at its inner-most cycle, is circling tightly enough around the polar center that it remains visible above the horizon for someone at such a vantage point. Likewise, in extreme Southern latitudes during Arctic summer, the Sun completely disappears from view for over 2 months because there at the Northern Tropic, at the inner-most arc of its boomerang journey, the Sun is circling the Northern center too tightly to be seen from the Southern circumference.
 

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Quoting Gabrielle Henriet, “The theory of the rotation of the earth may once and for all be definitely disposed of as impracticable by pointing out the following inadvertence. It is said that the rotation takes twenty-four hours and that its speed is uniform, in which case, necessarily, days and nights should have an identical duration of twelve hours each all the year round. The sun should invariably rise in the morning and set in the evening at the same hours, with the result that it would be the equinox every day from the 1st of January to the 31st of December. One should stop and reflect on this before saying that the earth has a movement of rotation. How does the system of gravitation account for the seasonal variations in the lengths of days and nights if the earth rotates at a uniform speed in twenty-four hours!?”
 

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Probably the folks with the weakest legs to stand on are the conspiracy
theorists who insist that the USA, Russia, China, SpaceX, Google Earth, and
the European Space Agency, plus all the imaging teams, all the astronauts,
and all the folks involved in designing satellite communications systems and
the GPS system, have colluded to fool the world into believing the Earth is a
sphere.

Now, as a Christian, I'm supposed to be a compassionate kind of guy. Well;
the truth is: I am unable to pity flatters; I think they're just plane evil; and
willfully so rather than innocently.
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RaceRunner

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Probably the folks with the weakest legs to stand on are the conspiracy
theorists who insist that the USA, Russia, China, SpaceX, Google Earth, and
the European Space Agency, plus all the imaging teams, all the astronauts,
and all the folks involved in designing satellite communications systems and
the GPS system, have colluded to fool the world into believing the Earth is a
sphere.


Now, as a Christian, I'm supposed to be a compassionate kind of guy. Well;
the truth is: I am unable to pity flatters; I think they're just plane evil; and
willfully so rather than innocently.
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Please post a picture of a group of satellites in space; please do not post a computer-generated image. YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO POST A PICTURE OF A GROUP OF SATELLITES IN SPACE. :eek::ROFL:
 

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Anyone can prove the sea-horizon perfectly straight and the entire Earth perfectly flat using nothing more than a level, tripods and a wooden plank. At any altitude above sea-level, simply fix a 6-12 foot long, smooth, leveled board edgewise upon tripods and observe the skyline from eye-level behind it. The distant horizon will always align perfectly parallel with the upper edge of the board. Furthermore, if you move in a half-circle from one end of the board to the other whilst observing the skyline over the upper edge, you will be able to trace a clear, flat 10-20 miles depending on your altitude. This would be impossible if the Earth were a globe 25,000 miles in circumference; the horizon would align over the center of the board but then gradually, noticeably decline towards the extremities. Just ten miles on each side would necessitate an easily visible curvature of 66.6 feet from each end to the center.

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