The Heresy of Perfectionism
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4runner i dont want to sound condescending, please believe that, but just continue to grow and
learn. We all have alot to learn. And try to cut down on you false teacher stuff. Your actually a little out to lunch
in a few places. and it is causing alot of division. But im not saying you should back off. Just careful. There was no false teaching there, you just havnt a clue what Hebrews is saying. I know how it says things and most of the bible should be taken literally. But sometimes if you dont see the bigger context, you just cant be right with
just reading it.
wait a minute....what did EG say that made him a false teacher. I should have let you explain 
God said exactly what He meant if you continue in sin after receiving Christ you will indeed feel His wrath
Hebrews 10
26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
Nothing either of you can say or do can cancel, or detract from what God has said here in His word on this subject. All you can do is reject the truth spoken in His word.
Hebrews 10
26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
Nothing either of you can say or do can cancel, or detract from what God has said here in His word on this subject. All you can do is reject the truth spoken in His word.
Some have a very small capacity for the grace of God and how to conduct their lives through that grace, in their speech and manner of living. Grace is far from their heart and lips. Paul taught Timothy to be strong in grace as a young preacher and pastor. Having one soul and all things common gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ and great grace was upon them all (Acts 4:33).
In (Gal 2:9), Peter, James and John perceived the grace of God that was given to Paul and they extended the right hand of fellowship. There is no fellowship outside the grace of God. We need to put away our silly notions and false doctrine and get to know the God of all grace. God gives grace to the humble and to those that submit themselves under the mighty hand of God (the right teaching). Those that grow in grace and knowledge of Christ are confident in the power of God to lead them in the way they should go, trusting in Him and not the arm of the flesh.
If we want to be perfect, we must be perfect and mature in receiving grace, growing in grace, ministering grace and letting grace be sufficient in our weakness and also in assisting us in laying aside that sin that so easily besets us. We all have those besetting sins in our life but we are not so easy to admit to them because they do not conform to our concept of sinless perfection.
In (Gal 2:9), Peter, James and John perceived the grace of God that was given to Paul and they extended the right hand of fellowship. There is no fellowship outside the grace of God. We need to put away our silly notions and false doctrine and get to know the God of all grace. God gives grace to the humble and to those that submit themselves under the mighty hand of God (the right teaching). Those that grow in grace and knowledge of Christ are confident in the power of God to lead them in the way they should go, trusting in Him and not the arm of the flesh.
If we want to be perfect, we must be perfect and mature in receiving grace, growing in grace, ministering grace and letting grace be sufficient in our weakness and also in assisting us in laying aside that sin that so easily besets us. We all have those besetting sins in our life but we are not so easy to admit to them because they do not conform to our concept of sinless perfection.
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nope ask eg first day here he and i duked it out all day or two or three, he called me names
we have no reason to be friends, cept we choose to be
And we havnt talked that i remember since but just a couple times
And that means u and i can be friends too if we chose
to not let this divide us. To me its fun and we can all learn
we have no reason to be friends, cept we choose to be
And we havnt talked that i remember since but just a couple times
And that means u and i can be friends too if we chose
to not let this divide us. To me its fun and we can all learn
nope ask eg first day here he and i duked it out all day or two or three, he called me names
we have no reason to be friends, cept we choose to be
And we havnt talked that i remember since but just a couple times
And that means u and i can be friends too if we chose
to not let this divide us. To me its fun and we can all learn
we have no reason to be friends, cept we choose to be
And we havnt talked that i remember since but just a couple times
And that means u and i can be friends too if we chose
to not let this divide us. To me its fun and we can all learn
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Isnt there a proverb that says when two disagree how can they walk together(paraphrased) so we walking with Jesus or just the theology of Jesus? At times I wonder, That's the place He has, by His grace shown me after years of lettting what I perceived above what others saved and unsaved. If we claim we have reached perfection no use running the race, game over, I think will all the dilly dallying back and forth justifying ourselves shows we are still running the race, seek God and HIS righteousness and ALL things will be added. What's there to seek if we have already attained??
If something bites it's ourselves being bitten by what still needs addressing, that part not being dead but kicking - flesh is still alive.
One thing we can't deny Jesus said offence will come, yes but it's how we respond that shows His character in us.
If something bites it's ourselves being bitten by what still needs addressing, that part not being dead but kicking - flesh is still alive.
One thing we can't deny Jesus said offence will come, yes but it's how we respond that shows His character in us.
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