WHY ARE PEOPLE RUNNING FROM HIS WORD?

[loveschild]

Loveschild, I won't even discuss with you scripture, because I have read your stuff, and you're the picture of tickling the ear. So you I have nothing to say.

1. John 5:16
   For this reason the Jews began to persecute (annoy, torment) Jesus and sought to kill Him, because He was doing these things on the Sabbath.
   John 5:15-17 (in Context) John 5 (Whole Chapter)
2. John 5:18
   This made the Jews more determined than ever to kill Him [to do away with Him]; because He not only was breaking (weakening, violating) the Sabbath, but He actually was speaking of God as being [in a special sense] His own Father, making Himself equal [putting Himself on a level] with God.
   John 5:17-19 (in Context) John 5 (Whole Chapter)

You are telling us to be like these Jews. Every few months one of you lost souls come in here telling us to go back to the curse of the law.

1. Galatians 2:19
   For I through the Law [under the operation of the curse of the Law] have [in Christ's death for me] myself died to the Law and all the Law's demands upon me, so that I may [henceforth] live to and for God.
   Galatians 2:18-20 (in Context) Galatians 2 (Whole Chapter)
2. Galatians 3:10
   And all who depend on the Law [who are seeking to be justified by obedience to the Law of rituals] are under a curse and doomed to disappointment and destruction, for it is written in the Scriptures, Cursed (accursed, devoted to destruction, doomed to eternal punishment) be everyone who does not continue to abide (live and remain) by all the precepts and commands written in the Book of the Law and to practice them.
   Galatians 3:9-11 (in Context) Galatians 3 (Whole Chapter)
3. Galatians 3:13
   Christ purchased our freedom [redeeming us] from the curse (doom) of the Law [and its condemnation] by [Himself] becoming a curse for us, for it is written [in the Scriptures], Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree (is crucified);
   Galatians 3:12-14 (in Context) Galatians 3 (Whole Chapter)

I had the perfect word of God to say and I'm saying it again.

 

[loveschild]

avinu...i dont know id you have noticed this or not, but no one cares about your opinion on this. you have everyone is this thread against you. perhaps you should take it as a hint to stop beating a dead horse.

I love that avatar. Made me laugh! Thanks!

 

[zone]

I see you are still spitting venom I see, but will not answer a question. Maybe someone else will have the courage.

Its not a trick question I promise.

you answer it. it's not a trick question at all.
keep the whole Law do you?
never offend in one point?

of course you do.
you're sinless.

 

[Avinu]

Why did God send His Son Jesus to die for us, Avinu?? I love God's word. If I thought for a second that I was going against His word I would immediately repent. After you answer that most important question could you tell me how you think I am running from His Word?

God Bless You

In Torah, God said if someone is unfaithful to there spouse, to restore them unto there spouse, the punishment is death. When my ancestors(because we were called the bride of God) commited spiritual adultery to God by following other false God's the only way to be restored unto Him was death, therefore that is why Israel has suffered so much in history and so many have died. Yeshua stepped up and said He would take our place (meaning all children of God past and present and future) for punishment. By doing so, we all became the bride of Messiah. So it just wasn't for sin that Yeshua died for us, it was to restore us as the bride. So therefore by grace through faith we are saved. Does that answer your question? Now will you answer mine?

1John 2:34 says, Now by this we know that we know Him, IF we keep His commandments. He who says, "I know Him", and does not keep His Commandments, is a LIAR, and the truth is not in him.

Shalom, Avinu

 

[zone]

In Torah, God said if someone is unfaithful to there spouse, to restore them unto there spouse, the punishment is death. When my ancestors(because we were called the bride of God) commited spiritual adultery to God by following other false God's the only way to be restored unto Him was death, therefore that is why Israel has suffered so much in history and so many have died. Yeshua stepped up and said He would take our place (meaning all children of God past and present and future) for punishment. By doing so, we all became the bride of Messiah. So it just wasn't for sin that Yeshua died for us, it was to restore us as the bride. So therefore by grace through faith we are saved. Does that answer your question? Now will you answer mine?

1John 2:34 says, Now by this we know that we know Him, IF we keep His commandments. He who says, "I know Him", and does not keep His Commandments, is a LIAR, and the truth is not in him.

Shalom, Avinu

Avinu:
could you go to the Sermon on the Mount and find the sabbath commandment please?

 

[4runner]

Question to believers in Christ: Are we following the God of the bible or blindly following the fables of men.

Mathew 15:14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.

You cant blame your Pastor, mamma, or Sunday school teacher when you face God on judgment day. He has given us His Word, as well as prophets/watchmen declaring the truth. But you choose to believe a lie.

2 Timothy 4
1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

 

[loveschild]

In Torah, God said if someone is unfaithful to there spouse, to restore them unto there spouse, the punishment is death. When my ancestors(because we were called the bride of God) commited spiritual adultery to God by following other false God's the only way to be restored unto Him was death, therefore that is why Israel has suffered so much in history and so many have died. Yeshua stepped up and said He would take our place (meaning all children of God past and present and future) for punishment. By doing so, we all became the bride of Messiah. So it just wasn't for sin that Yeshua died for us, it was to restore us as the bride. So therefore by grace through faith we are saved. Does that answer your question? Now will you answer mine?

1John 2:34 says, Now by this we know that we know Him, IF we keep His commandments. He who says, "I know Him", and does not keep His Commandments, is a LIAR, and the truth is not in him.

Shalom, Avinu

Where is 1 John 2:34 ??????????????????????????????????????

 

[Avinu]

Avinu:
could you go to the Sermon on the Mount and find the sabbath commandment please?

Okay, I'll ask you this Zone, is the Ten Commandments done away with yes or no? Would you please give me a yes or no answer on this?
Shalom

 

[Avinu]

Where is 1 John 2:34 ??????????????????????????????????????

Sorry loveschild, but 1 John chapter 2 doesn't go pass verse 29. Did you mean 24?

1 John 2:24 Therfore let that abide in you which you heard from the BEGINNING. If what you heard from the BEGINNING abides in you, you also will ABIDE IN THE SON AND IN THE FATHER.

 

[loveschild]

Sorry loveschild, but 1 John chapter 2 doesn't go pass verse 29. Did you mean 24?

1 John 2:24 Therfore let that abide in you which you heard from the BEGINNING. If what you heard from the BEGINNING abides in you, you also will ABIDE IN THE SON AND IN THE FATHER.

Originally Posted by Avinu

In Torah, God said if someone is unfaithful to there spouse, to restore them unto there spouse, the punishment is death. When my ancestors(because we were called the bride of God) commited spiritual adultery to God by following other false God's the only way to be restored unto Him was death, therefore that is why Israel has suffered so much in history and so many have died. Yeshua stepped up and said He would take our place (meaning all children of God past and present and future) for punishment. By doing so, we all became the bride of Messiah. So it just wasn't for sin that Yeshua died for us, it was to restore us as the bride. So therefore by grace through faith we are saved. Does that answer your question? Now will you answer mine?

1John 2:34 says, Now by this we know that we know Him, IF we keep His commandments. He who says, "I know Him", and does not keep His Commandments, is a LIAR, and the truth is not in him.

Shalom, Avinu



I was asking you since it was in your post.

 

[Avinu]

I was asking you since it was in your post.

Oh, got ya, my bad I'm sorry, I meant 3-4. Thank you for pointing that out. Shalom

 

[loveschild]

Oh, got ya, my bad I'm sorry, I meant 3-4. Thank you for pointing that out. Shalom

Your welcome!!!

 

[Grandpa]

In Torah, God said if someone is unfaithful to there spouse, to restore them unto there spouse, the punishment is death. When my ancestors(because we were called the bride of God) commited spiritual adultery to God by following other false God's the only way to be restored unto Him was death, therefore that is why Israel has suffered so much in history and so many have died. Yeshua stepped up and said He would take our place (meaning all children of God past and present and future) for punishment. By doing so, we all became the bride of Messiah. So it just wasn't for sin that Yeshua died for us, it was to restore us as the bride. So therefore by grace through faith we are saved. Does that answer your question? Now will you answer mine?

1John 2:34 says, Now by this we know that we know Him, IF we keep His commandments. He who says, "I know Him", and does not keep His Commandments, is a LIAR, and the truth is not in him.

Shalom, Avinu

I didn't see anywhere where you had asked me a question. But if you mean is the 10 commandments done away with of course not. Jesus said He didn't come to destroy the Law but to Fullfil it. Where you get confused is how to keep the law. The Jewish people have shown all of humanity that we can't keep God's Law, without help. We need a saviour. And We have One. Jesus Christ.

We follow the law by Loving God and Loving our neighbor. We can only do this by the Spirit. The Lord Jesus gives us His Holy Spirit so we can Love God and Love our neighbor. Its all about Jesus. We can't love God or our neighbor without His Help.

Our following of the law in our flesh is as dirty rags to the Lord. The 10 commandments is like a giant mirror that magnify your sins back to you. But if you turn from your sins (the mirror, self) and focus on Jesus, He will teach you Love.

God Bless You

 

[AnandaHya]

AMEN, I love those scriptures, I can't wait till that is fufilled. Because the house of Israel and the house of Judah being brought back together has not happened yet, therefore the new covenant has not happened yet.

Brit Hadeshah is the hebrew name for the NT, well it actually means renewed covenant not NT like it's been taught. I don't mean to burst your bubble on those verses, but it hasn't happened yet. Shalom

what do you mean by these words?

what do you mean the new covenant has not happened yet?

if the old covenant was still in place then there would be no salvation for gentiles at all only jews because that is what the old covenant says.

where are you going with this?

Jesus on the sermon of the mount explained to us more fully the spirit of the ten commandments so that we might obey it according to the will of God in SPIRIT and in Truth and not as the Pharisees did in letter only.

Our righteousness is to exceed the Pharisees, not to make excuse to cover up sin. However, before we address that we must first address your statement that the new covenant does not exist yet.

does that mean you say salvation for the Gentiles does not exist? for it is not there in the old covenant. how then do you explain it?

 

[Avinu]

I didn't see anywhere where you had asked me a question. But if you mean is the 10 commandments done away with of course not. Jesus said He didn't come to destroy the Law but to Fullfil it. Where you get confused is how to keep the law. The Jewish people have shown all of humanity that we can't keep God's Law, without help. We need a saviour. And We have One. Jesus Christ.

We follow the law by Loving God and Loving our neighbor. We can only do this by the Spirit. The Lord Jesus gives us His Holy Spirit so we can Love God and Love our neighbor. Its all about Jesus. We can't love God or our neighbor without His Help.

Our following of the law in our flesh is as dirty rags to the Lord. The 10 commandments is like a giant mirror that magnify your sins back to you. But if you turn from your sins (the mirror, self) and focus on Jesus, He will teach you Love.

God Bless You

So are you saying that you keep the Ten Commandments? Is that what your saying?

 

[loveschild]

So are you saying that you keep the Ten Commandments? Is that what your saying?

His Commandments to teach the difference between right and wrong. The 7 Feasts to show us how to celebrate Him and Yeshua.



It didn't start out as a post about the 10 commandments at all it started out as about the law. The 7 feast thing. Then it got switched around to 10 law thing. It still comes down to the grace and blood of our Jesus.

 

[Avinu]

His Commandments to teach the difference between right and wrong. The 7 Feasts to show us how to celebrate Him and Yeshua.



It didn't start out as a post about the 10 commandments at all it started out as about the law. The 7 feast thing. Then it got switched around to 10 law thing. It still comes down to the grace and blood of our Jesus.

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Loveschild, you're right about the grace and blood of Yeshua. So I will ask you also, are the Ten Commandments done away with or are we to keep them?

 

[Grandpa]

So are you saying that you keep the Ten Commandments? Is that what your saying?

I don't keep them. I am protected from breaking them by the blood of the lamb. When you try to keep them is when you fall. When you follow Jesus you are protected. Do you see?

 

[Avinu]

I don't keep them. I am protected from breaking them by the blood of the lamb. When you try to keep them is when you fall. When you follow Jesus you are protected. Do you see?

So you murder, steal, covet, commit adultery, dishonor your father and mother, you have other gods before God, and you have graven images, you also take God's name in vain, you've made obvious you break Sabbath, and you bear false witness against your neighbor.

Wow, I'm impressed, you're the first one on here who claims to be a christian and still commits all these sins. How do you do it? I wish I had a get out of hell free card like you apparently do.
Oh yes, I remember, Jesus said, "They honor me with there lips, but there heart is far from me."
whoa, I thought for a minute, I had been trying to be obedient to God for nothing.

 

[dmdave17]

Zone, show me where it doesn't.

I have not read everybody's posts, but I would like to point out the fallacy in this statement. The absence of evidence is not evidence. However, I would like to point to a couple of verses of Scripture which appear to answer this question. (I hope I'm not twisting the meaning too much.)

Jesus, Himself, placed spiritual concerns above rituals. In Luke 6, the Story is told that, "One Sabbath Jesus was going through the grainfields, and his disciples began to pick some heads of grain, rub them in their hands and eat the kernels. Some of the Pharisees asked, 'Why are you doing what is unlawful on the Sabbath?' Jesus answered them, 'Have you never read what David did when he and his companions were hungry? He entered the house of God, and taking the consecrated bread, he ate what is lawful only for priests to eat. And he also gave some to his companions.' Then Jesus said to them, “'The Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath.'”

Second, in his speech to the Council at Jerusalem (Acts 15), which had been convened to consider whether Gentile believers should follow Jewish law, the Apostle, Peter said, “Brothers, you know that some time ago God made a choice among you that the Gentiles might hear from my lips the message of the gospel and believe. God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us. He did not discriminate between us and them, for he purified their hearts by faith. Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear? No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are.” (v. 6-11)

Finally, the Apostle, Paul tells us, "There is no difference between Jew and Gentile, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus." And, "Where, then, is boasting? It is excluded. Because of what law? The law that requires works? No, because of the law that requires faith. For we maintain that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the law." (Romans 3:22-24 & 26-28)

These would seem to present a pretty tight case that believers are not required to observe the feasts. If anyone chooses to do so out of reverence for God, God bless them, but I don't see how we can arrive at the conclusion that we have to.