Technological Signs relating to Christ’s Coming are being fulfilled.
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Didn't think it did... 
What is wrong?
Is it a "just can't stand to be in the same thread with [a certain person]" kind of thing?
Is it a "just can't get anyone to agree with my view" kind of thing?
What is it?
Did I miss something?
What is wrong?
Is it a "just can't stand to be in the same thread with [a certain person]" kind of thing?
Is it a "just can't get anyone to agree with my view" kind of thing?
What is it?
Did I miss something?
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Okay, I think I grasp your meaning / understanding of this text.
What do you do with the following verses (I'm always referencing vv.12-14 and 20-23 in my posts, when I make the point I did / do):
20When the sticks on which you write are in your hand and in full view of the people, 21you are to tell them that this is what the Lord GOD says: ‘I will take the Israelites out of the nations to which they have gone, and I will gather them from all around and bring them into their own land. 22I will make them one nation in the land, on the mountains of Israel, and one king will rule over all of them. Then they will no longer be two nations and will never again be divided into two kingdoms.
23They will no longer defile themselves with their idols or detestable images, or with any of their transgressions. I will save them from all their apostasies by which they sinned,c [most Hebrew manuscripts all their dwelling places where they sinned ] and I will cleanse them. Then they will be My people, and I will be their God.
[I see this ^ connected with the time-prophecy in Dan9:24 connected with Isaiah 27:12-13,9 [/Rom11:[15,25,]26-27 and Matt24:29-31] re: Israel's future... "still-living" persons at that time (not that I don't believe OT saved of Israel will be resurrected, I DO! Dan12:13 for example!]
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I had another question (some time back... but I got distracted away from the discussion and now can no longer FIND it)... where you'd put (something like) you see the "break" being between Dan11:39 and 11:40 (I think you said--I see a "break" also, btwn two different verses), but I was WONDERING, approx what kind of spans of time are you thinking that "break-between-verses" consists of, like, does it resume in the 70ad events, or much later, like in the yet-future (to us) lead-up-yrs (we call the Trib), leading up to Christ's RETURN to the earth? (Or other?) I wasn't clear on how you view that "break" (based on the convo we were engaged in at the time, I couldn't tell... but had wanted to ask you).
Would you mind briefly commenting?
What do you do with the following verses (I'm always referencing vv.12-14 and 20-23 in my posts, when I make the point I did / do):
20When the sticks on which you write are in your hand and in full view of the people, 21you are to tell them that this is what the Lord GOD says: ‘I will take the Israelites out of the nations to which they have gone, and I will gather them from all around and bring them into their own land. 22I will make them one nation in the land, on the mountains of Israel, and one king will rule over all of them. Then they will no longer be two nations and will never again be divided into two kingdoms.
23They will no longer defile themselves with their idols or detestable images, or with any of their transgressions. I will save them from all their apostasies by which they sinned,c [most Hebrew manuscripts all their dwelling places where they sinned ] and I will cleanse them. Then they will be My people, and I will be their God.
[I see this ^ connected with the time-prophecy in Dan9:24 connected with Isaiah 27:12-13,9 [/Rom11:[15,25,]26-27 and Matt24:29-31] re: Israel's future... "still-living" persons at that time (not that I don't believe OT saved of Israel will be resurrected, I DO! Dan12:13 for example!]
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I had another question (some time back... but I got distracted away from the discussion and now can no longer FIND it)... where you'd put (something like) you see the "break" being between Dan11:39 and 11:40 (I think you said--I see a "break" also, btwn two different verses), but I was WONDERING, approx what kind of spans of time are you thinking that "break-between-verses" consists of, like, does it resume in the 70ad events, or much later, like in the yet-future (to us) lead-up-yrs (we call the Trib), leading up to Christ's RETURN to the earth? (Or other?) I wasn't clear on how you view that "break" (based on the convo we were engaged in at the time, I couldn't tell... but had wanted to ask you).
Would you mind briefly commenting?
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No way man. The obviously correct interpretation is found in Rev 6. Revelation is chock full to overflowing with OT types and prophetic fulfillments. Exactly what you would expect from end time OT prophecies being fulfilled yet future right?
End times bro. And future. No doubt about it.
Rev 6:12
And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
Joe 2:31
The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.
End times bro. And future. No doubt about it.
Rev 6:12
And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
Joe 2:31
The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.
I believe quantum technology is essential for a centralized headquarters when the Beast is in control. Of course, other related technical oddities can and most likely will be used for tracking and monitoring a variety of activities.
I have seen first hand satellites, government issued defense models, capable of being 10 orbits from Earth and while traveling around the Planet be able to focus on a specific location and literally from thousands and thousands of miles away read the face of a Dime laying on a sidewalk.
They are in competition with China who claims they can find any one single human being off grid within 15 minutes.
So I believe from the technical standpoint it is in place.
I know most of the world claims they will be cashless using electronic currency in next 5 years.
Even Biden sent a proposal to the Senate in his first month's in Office looking into our own currency becoming electronic.
There is always going to be glitches even during the Tribulation Period, probably more due to it.
But technology is definitely in place waiting to be the instrument most likely used from a centralized headquarters.
I have seen first hand satellites, government issued defense models, capable of being 10 orbits from Earth and while traveling around the Planet be able to focus on a specific location and literally from thousands and thousands of miles away read the face of a Dime laying on a sidewalk.
They are in competition with China who claims they can find any one single human being off grid within 15 minutes.
So I believe from the technical standpoint it is in place.
I know most of the world claims they will be cashless using electronic currency in next 5 years.
Even Biden sent a proposal to the Senate in his first month's in Office looking into our own currency becoming electronic.
There is always going to be glitches even during the Tribulation Period, probably more due to it.
But technology is definitely in place waiting to be the instrument most likely used from a centralized headquarters.
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I am not a futurist. I am a/an historicist. I am convinced that the futurist view is replete with error that originates from the severe misinterpretation of scripture. I have no problem telling you outright that scripture is most certainly not revealing it.
If this is not the type of thing you are talking about - then - what exactly are you talking about?
And, perhaps more importantly, how did this come out of our "conversation" in posts 371 - 373 - 378 - 385 - 399...???
If this is not the type of thing you are talking about - then - what exactly are you talking about?
And, perhaps more importantly, how did this come out of our "conversation" in posts 371 - 373 - 378 - 385 - 399...???
After a satellite is blasted into the Earth's Atmosphere and leaves the orbital sphere It's programmed to its rotational path and spends its lifetime taking pictures.
But to answer your question:
The distance from ground level to the point where the satellite is traveling around the Earth is the orbital pattern. So, that distance times ten is how I understood it to mean.
But to answer your question:
The distance from ground level to the point where the satellite is traveling around the Earth is the orbital pattern. So, that distance times ten is how I understood it to mean.
I have been pondering about these verses too. Could someone address these @cv5 Do you have any input on these verses and how they relate to the state of Israel?
My mind is not made up on the subject but I see the foundation of Israel as a miracle. They beat 5 countries that attacked them simultaneously in 1967, completely outnumbered. I know they are an antichrist state meaning they deny Christ both jews and muslims, BUT ive been thinking about it like this:
In Zechariah 14 the nations are gathered against Israel, correct? Who is doing the gathering of these nations? its GOD and it seems like its about PUNISHMENT to Israel. Now think about this: WHY would God punish an obedient Israel like the one mentioned in Deuteronomy? It wouldn't make much sense, but if Israel was gathered in unbelief, and then punished for it and THEN a 3rd is refined and saved when Jesus returns as we see in Zechariah 14, and then the nations are punished. Wouldn't this timeline fit? What do you guys think?
My mind is not made up on the subject but I see the foundation of Israel as a miracle. They beat 5 countries that attacked them simultaneously in 1967, completely outnumbered. I know they are an antichrist state meaning they deny Christ both jews and muslims, BUT ive been thinking about it like this:
In Zechariah 14 the nations are gathered against Israel, correct? Who is doing the gathering of these nations? its GOD and it seems like its about PUNISHMENT to Israel. Now think about this: WHY would God punish an obedient Israel like the one mentioned in Deuteronomy? It wouldn't make much sense, but if Israel was gathered in unbelief, and then punished for it and THEN a 3rd is refined and saved when Jesus returns as we see in Zechariah 14, and then the nations are punished. Wouldn't this timeline fit? What do you guys think?
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Also concider what is written in the book of the Revelation of John.
‘I know your tribulation and your poverty (but you are rich), and the blasphemy by those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan.
Revelation 2:9 NASB1995
Behold, I will cause those of the synagogue of Satan, who say that they are Jews and are not, but lie—I will make them come and bow down at your feet, and make them know that I have loved you.
Revelation 3:9 NASB1995
Here God calls them a synagog of satan.
My personal view on their "victory" in 67 is part of a great deception designed to mislead christians into a satanic backward version of zionism. The same with rebuilding the temple and attempting to breed the "red heifer"
If you read the description of the temple in Ezekiel, this is not a thing that can be done by any human. Its not a man made temple. This is God's temple. What ever they build in the nation state of Israel will be a counterfeit.
‘I know your tribulation and your poverty (but you are rich), and the blasphemy by those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan.
Revelation 2:9 NASB1995
Behold, I will cause those of the synagogue of Satan, who say that they are Jews and are not, but lie—I will make them come and bow down at your feet, and make them know that I have loved you.
Revelation 3:9 NASB1995
Here God calls them a synagog of satan.
My personal view on their "victory" in 67 is part of a great deception designed to mislead christians into a satanic backward version of zionism. The same with rebuilding the temple and attempting to breed the "red heifer"
If you read the description of the temple in Ezekiel, this is not a thing that can be done by any human. Its not a man made temple. This is God's temple. What ever they build in the nation state of Israel will be a counterfeit.
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But what about Zechariah 14 that clearly mentions nations going to war against Israel, and in Jerusalem the geographical location, and then Jesus returns and restores. Isn't that what its all about?
I dont deny there are fake jews, there definitely is, but according to Bible prophecy there are real jews in Jerusalem today as well
I dont deny there are fake jews, there definitely is, but according to Bible prophecy there are real jews in Jerusalem today as well
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