Technological Signs relating to Christ’s Coming are being fulfilled.
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Good morning. Yes, I DO in fact believe that the renewal of the Nation Israel is miraculous and prophetic.
See the contents of this post. BTW.....the number 2520 (360 X 7) itself is SUPER PROPHETIC by its very nature!
"2520 (360 day) years from both 606BC (1948 nation) and 586BC (1967 Jerusalem). Not a coincidence, not by a longshot.
The precise day for setting the start of prophetic clock is known for the 1967 retaking of Jerusalem."
Basically "430 years (Eze 4) minus 70 years time served times 7 more times for your sins (Lev 26) = 2520 years"
https://christianchat.com/threads/matthew-24-34-fig-tree-generation.209931/post-5032570
Furthermore, the so-called "temple mount" is NOT the location of the True Temple. The western wall and 36 acre platform is UNDOUBTEDLY Antonia Fortress complex! The Temple is ACTUALLY located to the south and lower in elevation, in the City of David......Israeli territory. They can rebuild the temple RIGHT NOW with no interference from the Muslims.
Take the time to read the content of what @VCO has compiled on his thread on the matter. GREAT research. He has done his homework!
https://christianchat.com/threads/t...oming-are-being-fulfilled.209446/post-5021500
https://christianchat.com/threads/third-temple-news.155526/post-5021275
https://christianchat.com/threads/third-temple-news.155526/post-5023983
It's just a "temp" buddy. It exists solely for the purpose of fulfilling prophecy. And this "temp temple" will be NOTHING like the scale and glorious grandeur of the massive MILLENNIAL TEMPLE of Ezekiel.
https://christianchat.com/threads/5...ure-by-dr-john-f-walvoord.198357/post-4541935
https://christianchat.com/threads/how-many-people-think-the-jews-could-be-wrong.208379/post-4970678
Which is fitting of the circumstances. The AC get a crummy temple that will be destroyed anyways in 3-1/2 years. Jesus gets a glorious Temple that will exist unchallenged for the millennium.
Correct, because The Gospel Of Grace (and Mercy) Is For "both Jew and Gentile"
Today:
Rom_3:9 What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we
have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;
Rom_9:24 Even us, whom He hath called, not of the
Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?
1Co_10:32 Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles,
nor to the church of God:
1Ti_2:1 I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers,
intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;
Praise God, we can do this, and when both Jew and Gentile believe, God Can Do This?:
1Co_12:13 For By One Spirit are we all Baptized into One Body,
whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and
have been all made to drink into One Spirit.
Resulting In?: Gal_3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free,
there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
+Col_3:11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision
nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but
Christ is all, and in all.
Amen.--------------------------
Grace, Peace, And JOY In Christ, And In His Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided (+ I and II)! + RICH Blessings
Just because there are real jews in Jerusalem today does not mean that the nation is the real-and-true nation of Israel from a biblical historical perspective.
Indeed, the nation of Israel today is a form of counterfeit.
When are you going to realize that these things were caused to come about - exactly when they did - exactly the way they did - by people who understood the prophecy well and wanted to use it for their agenda...???
When are you going to realize that the absolute majority of things that happen today are very calculated, planned to every detail, and executed "right on schedule" according to an agenda for world domination?
For what it is worth, I have known about this for years. I believe that the extreme lack of knowledge concerning it is also being 'utilized' by those same people for their agenda.
There is no "third temple being rebuilt in Israel during a 7-year 'tribulation' period" in biblical prophecy.
A proper understanding of Daniel 9:24-27 alone "completely does away with" 95% to 100% of the biblical End Times Scenario deception of modern-day Christians. The entire world view of many Christians today is being misleadingly shaped by the severe misinterpretation of these four verses - which are always taken out of the context of the chapter and book where they are found.
There is no 7-year 'prophetic' End Times period. Nor will there be a 7-year treaty between any antichrist and Israel (needless to say) - which will be "broken" half-way through the '7-year tribulation period'. These ideas are not biblical. They are not found anywhere in scripture - most-certainly-and-definitely not in Daniel 9:24-27. Yet, the entire eschatological "world view" of Christians everywhere seem to be irrevocably "tainted" by this severe misinterpretation of Daniel 9:24-27.
If this is you - you will never understand the End Times Scenario properly until you get past this - almost everything you believe about the End Times Scenario is in error just because of this one ["little"] thing...
Correct.
I agree with you concerning 'Antonia' and the 'temple mount'; however, it does not mean that the "third temple rebuilt" idea that pervades modern Christiandom is biblical.
They are - just not quite exactly in the way you think with regard to biblical truth.
You are a futurist because you have fallen for the modern-day deception concerning the End Times Scenario. (I did too - because, it was what I was taught growing up - until I separated myself from it and studied the Word for myself - and discovered that it was a false teaching.)
You have "figured out a few things" in prophecy. Keep going. Learn how to "forget everything you know" and pay close attention to what the Bible is really actually saying - stop leaning on what you have learned (from other people) - look for what is really there...
I believe that "true Israel" will be "raised up" by Jesus when He comes - and, at that time, the 'dry bones' prophecy will have been fulfilled.
The nation of Israel will exist and "have its place" during the 1000-year reign of Christ.
Armageddon will be the last attempt to exterminate the Jewish people. It will fail.
If I am reading all of this correctly - I agree with you that the nation of Israel "will be again" - but, agree with @Locoponydirtman that it has not yet become a reality. He is correct in his final statement in the post that you quoted.
Amen!
However, I think you have missed the point(s) that @Locoponydirtman was trying to make in post #22 and post #27.
In fact, I am thinking that I am not even sure that he disagrees with what you have been telling him about the 'temple mount'. Only, in doing so, you have overlooked what he was trying to say. Because, I have gotten something out of his posts that I believe you have missed entirely - because, you are so caught up in what you are trying to say to him that you completely missed what he was trying to say to you.
Technically, the actual SALVATION of the nation only comes about after they repent and ask for Jesus to return, which occurs only at the time slot of the SC.
These present events are more or less a "pre-gathering" in effect. But nevertheless an absolute necessity in terms of fulfilling prophecy IMO.
I said this with the understanding of the assumption concerning "true" Israel according to what the Bible says - which I considered Locoponydirtman to be making in his post. The modern-day nation of Israel may be considered to be 'sovereign' based on different criteria; however, in this context it should be considered from a biblical perspective. And, this is the perspective I believe Locoponydirtman was indicating in his post.