Disney

[NodMyHeadLikeYeah]

lol I didn't make the graphic! I just found it online and thought it was interesting

Just wanted to clarify so you guys don't think I'm one of those crazy people that watches Disney movies frame by frame to find subliminal boners or something

ooooh but i am

 

[VikkiKate89]

lol I didn't make the graphic! I just found it online and thought it was interesting

Just wanted to clarify so you guys don't think I'm one of those crazy people that watches Disney movies frame by frame to find subliminal boners or something

lol hence me clarifying.

I review cartoons for Web of Cinema and Phantom Hat Media, so I over analyze a lot of Disney movies, but even I don't draw any of these insane conclusions like the makers of the graphic did. Also should point out that a lot of the creator's biggest complaints revolved around things the villains did... and I think they totally missed the point of a villain entirely, they're supposed to be despicable.

 

[rainacorn]

By the way, I just decided 'subliminal boners' is the new name for my imaginary band.

 

[zeroturbulence]

By the way, I just decided 'subliminal boners' is the new name for my imaginary band.

Nice!! lol.

 

[USNCorpsman76]

I like Disney Corp. They have been good since the begining. I own stock in Disney Corp, and it has done good since the begining...all in all I am very happy with the Walt Disney Corp.

 

[Dude653]

Kingdom Hearts...I love that game..it's one of my favorites

 

[VikkiKate89]

Kingdom Hearts...I love that game..it's one of my favorites

Both 1 and 2 were awesome. Haven't played the others yet. Just wish 2 had left out that awful Tron level *shudders* That took me forever to beat!

 

[Ritter]

Walt Disney was brilliant. A cross between Shakespeare and Thomas Edison. I enjoy watching the films and visiting the parks, because they stem from the mind of a true dreamer.

I have my qualms with how the Disney company is run, particularly the content on the Disney Channel. Something tells me he would have similar qualms though.

 

[amstrick]

I grew up watching Disney movies and the Disney channel when it played cartoons like Doug and Goof Troop I loved it. The last time I watched Disney Channel was when I was in Costa Rica with a 5 year old so it was in spanish and they have some different shows. I did notice they have music videos now. This girl (named something Justice) was singing a song the said something like "I am gonna freak the freak out" and dancing very sexy. This did not seem appropriate to me for a 5 year old, but I do not know if she noticed it or not.

 

[Dude653]

Both 1 and 2 were awesome. Haven't played the others yet. Just wish 2 had left out that awful Tron level *shudders* That took me forever to beat!

The end of Kingdom Hearts made me cry.. I know,, im just a big ole softy

 

[Phia]

I agree with Vikkikate..when I was a kid and I watched those movies..I never thought about any of that. All I was concerned about was the Prince and the girl falling in love..animals that could talk and do tricks..good winning against evil etc etc.. My oldest brother has 3 kids (ages 6, 8 and 10)..they're allowed to watch the Disney Channel. But there are certain shows that they're not allowed to watch eg. Wizards of Waverly Place..and they know it. Like they're so well trained now that if their parents aren't around..they'll tell you themselves that the show that's currently on is evil and that they need to change the channel..I think that there's already a lot of bad influence out there as it is when it comes to children. You can't prevent kids from being exposed to it all..because parents aren't around ALL the time..but you can teach them and train them. You can explain from a biblical perspective as to why that certain show is not good..and you can teach them what to do when they do get exposed..like my nieces and nephew do..change the channel etc.

 

[wwjd_kilden]

you can read a lot of bad morale into any story, depending on how you view it.
- Several guys in the bible have many wives... in the OT God sometimes commands people to kill, babies are murdered... that don't mean you teach your kids to do those things....

I grew up with the old disney and old fairy tales (that disney in some cases remade) : Lion King, rapunsel, sleeping beauty, the ugly duckling, and a lot of Norwegian folklore(/fairy tales about trolls - where the good guy would always win of course. I see no harm in it as long as you

1: adapt the story to the age and maturity of the kid
2: make sure they know what is fact and what is fiction
3: don't make them obsessed with the fiction creatures

Kids are kids, they have been told stories, both real and made up ones a loooooooooong time, it's just the format that has changed.

 

[Elizabeth619]

I would say that graphic is probably designed by some hardcore feminist who hates the idea of disney princess movies...i mean they are really stretching for any of those descriptions like vikkikate already explained. The disney channel is another beast entirely but those movies are not nearly as bad as the graphic states.

I dont know many small children that would look at a Disney Princess in such a negative way.
I mean, seriously. Disney did not create these fairytales. They have been around longer than Disney...

I grew up on Cinderella, SLeeping Beauty and so on. I did not once think that it was such a horrible thing. As a child you dont have that mentality, only a perverted adult would exploit something like that. Maybe an angy feminist with an inferiority complex. MY guess is she was jelaous of a cartoon chracters beauty and could not get past the looks of drawings to see the real moral of these stories, BUT if someone REALLY wants to discuss the immoral chracter of Disney....Lets talk about Walts sexual orientation....

 

[Ritter]

BUT if someone REALLY wants to discuss the immoral chracter of Disney....Lets talk about Walts sexual orientation....

Yep, because falling in love with a woman and being traditionally married are such evil actionsl(?)

 

[Elizabeth619]

Yep, because falling in love with a woman and being traditionally married are such evil actionsl(?)

What are oyu talking about?

 

[UsugimiBilly]

Disney began to go downhill when they started showing live-action shows. The only good thing involving Disney now is in fact Kingdom Hearts. I just beat Birth By Sleep and I enjoyed the plot. The Disney characters are now less essential to the plot but I'm not complaining.

 

[Elizabeth619]

Yep, because falling in love with a woman and being traditionally married are such evil actionsl(?)

IF you are referring to Walt Disney falling in love and getting married, then I guess you havent heard about him actuallly being a homosexual and how Disney supports that lifestyle.

 

[Jullianna]

...I'm your Cartoon Critic because you are never too old for cartoons (and this is for whoever made that ridiculous picture, not the person who started this thread unless they're the same person who made it).

Snow White:
It wasn't her "burgeoning sexuality" that threatened the Queen, it was the fact that she was prettier and it made the Queen jealous... a normal part of life that some girls will face growing up though usually from other girls, not their evil step-parents. And her looks weren't what saved her, it was her friendliness and helpful behavior that won over the dwarves loyalty and made them want to protect her just like any good friend would. And her ability to sing was what attracted the prince in her direction in the first place, not her looks, and after being charmed by her personality it inspired him to search for her until he found her.

Sleeping Beauty:
Betrothal was not that uncommon back in the day, and arranged marriages have a higher success rate than regular marriages. And anyone who has a mind dirty enough to think a simple kiss is sex probably shouldn't be allowed to have any physical contact with any living creature (and if they thought the Disney version was perverted they should steer clear of the Anne Rice version).

Jasmine:
I don't understand the first complaint. Whoever made this picture clearly has a problem with women who can't seem to think for themselves and rely on their looks to save them, but then when they're faced with a princess who can think for herself and actually respects herself to not marry just anyone because it's expected of her, they hate that too? Whoever made this just wants any reason to hate Disney and is being completely unreasonable here and contradicting themselves. And way to sound like the villain and continue to call the poor boy who saves her in the end, "a street rat." Also, this was one of the few Disney princesses that was able to do more than just play "damsel in distress." The only reason she was actually in danger at the end was it took an evil sorcerer with "phenomenal cosmic powers" to finally overpower her. I'm sorry she didn't pack her own superhuman powers to fight back, but I bet if she did she'd get yelled at next for witchcraft.

Ariel:
She changes her appearance because from the beginning of the movie she wanted to see what life was like as a human. Like when kids pretend they can fly or they're movie stars or whatever, it was like that. She wanted to be human well before she met Prince Eric, and when she does meet him it only makes him the cherry on top if she becomes a human, and you can't really blame her for that, I mean he was one of the more cute Disney Princes. Also he is attracted to her when he first sees her in her mermaid form and still loves her even after he's seen it, so it makes the argument that "she did it for him" completely invalid. Also (I know bringing up a video game doesn't count but since it was also made by Disney) in Kingdom Hearts 2, Eric finds out that she's a mermaid and before she even thinks of trying to find a way to become human again he offers to learn how to swim just so he can spend the rest of his life with her. I don't know about you, but that's the kind of man I'd like to marry.

Belle:
Belle does not save the Beast with her sexuality but by pure love. The spell clearly stated that only true love would break the spell, not a random sexy seductress. She falls in love with him in spite of what he is, learns to see the good in him, and learns that the outward appearance isn't what matters, it's the heart (sound familiar?). Also this was another princess who stood out because she was willing to fend for herself, she had a mind of her own, and just because she was pretty she wasn't willing to just take the easy road, marry the handsome man in town who could give her a stable life, and spend the rest of her days as a baby producing homemaker. And even when locked in a cellar, knowing that the towns people are on the way to brutally murder the beast, she breaks out and runs out to save him, caring more about him than herself.

Cinderella:
She isn't saved by the prince, did you even watch this movie? She saves herself. After being locked in the tower by her evil step mother (a woman who I would have punched in the face every chance I got but wasn't because her step daughter was obedient and respectful even in the most hateful of conditions... ''Children obey your parents,'' anyone?) she is saved by her friends the mice, creatures she had always treated with the utmost compassion and kindness when most people would have driven them out of the house or had them killed, and even has the nerve to finally at the end stand up for herself, march down the stairs, past her step mother, and put the slipper on to prove she was the person who won over the heart of the prince, who by the way fell in love with her after spending time with her, not because he thought she was just pretty (the dance scene outside of the palace ring a bell?).

If you really really really want to find a reason to hate and see the bad in something, you'll see it. But maybe if you took notes from some of these movies that taught compassion, forgiveness, and above all trying to find the good in others, you probably would have walked away with some valuable lessons from these films rather than finding (or in most cases) making up excuses to hate them and trying to convince people they're evil. Nothing like taking something purely innocent and twisting it to make it into a cesspool of immorality.

great post..........................

 

[Ritter]

IF you are referring to Walt Disney falling in love and getting married, then I guess you havent heard about him actuallly being a homosexual and how Disney supports that lifestyle.

Nope, I have never heard such a thing, but unless you make an out of this world case I'll assume it is another unsubstantiated rumor right up there with him being anti-Semitic, cryogenically frozen, a communist, a fascist, a bastard son, etc, etc, etc.

 

[Elizabeth619]

Nope, I have never heard such a thing, but unless you make an out of this world case I'll assume it is another unsubstantiated rumor right up there with him being anti-Semitic, cryogenically frozen, a communist, a fascist, a bastard son, etc, etc, etc.

Well, one that is substantiated is how they DO support homosexuality and even have Gay Week, but this thread isnt about Walr Disney and who he had crushes on, anyway...moving on....