Prophecy warfare

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Blade

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Forgive me I didn't read 13 pages lol and still don't understand "prophecy warfare". It seems it has got of track.

I....try..... to make sure when I talk to others I am really talking to Christ. Well one day (not to us) He will say "if you have done it to the least of these my brethren you have done it unto me". No way to twist that its you and me how we treat each other. We hmm lol "I won't be nice until they are". Yet to be like Christ hello GOD look what He did He left heaven became His creation and as He said could have called a legend of angels...yet this is not HIs kingdom. God allowed that to happen to Himself.

Point is.. its ok to bend... times to become wrong when your not. Its someone in need they see something you have.. you notice so you say .. you need that? its yours you ask do you need anything else take it. What is man that You are mindful of him, And the son of [earthborn] man that You care for him? The angels still ask this they do not understand.

Like it or not the one we talk to treat like.. is really Christ. We forget this nature of the flesh and not dropping it off and walking in the spirit
 

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1 kings 18;21-22
21Then Elijah approached all the people and said, “How long will you waver between two opinions? If the LORD is God, follow Him. But if Baal is God, follow him.”
But the people did not answer a word.
22Then Elijah said to the people, “I am the only remaining prophet of the LORD, but Baal has four
hundred and fifty prophets.

This is Jesus speaking through Elijah.
This is also prohecy of things to come where Jesus will speak through all Christians to prohesize against The Jezebels.
This is also prohecy of things to come where Jesus will speak through all Christians to prohesize against The Jezebels


These folk here are part of all Christians maybe you would do well to head their prophetic words.
 

Dino246

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I have spent 256 posts debating the last claim of the op which I never even thought for 1 minute it would become so important, or overwhelm the The first 15 claims of the op. I have repeatedly ask nicely to a forget it
How convenient for you that would be, as it would absolve you of admitting that you are dead wrong and have no biblical support for your claims. It ain’t gonna happen. Own your error and then we can discuss the rest.

Why is this my friend, well can't you see the spirit of prochecy has been assassinated by the spirit of the unclean spirits and turned into let's immediately assainate the prophets,
More self-righteous, unteachable hogwash.
You have been called out on your unbiblical claims.

Isaiah 8:20
“Consult God’s instruction and the testimony of warning. If anyone does not speak according to this word, they have no light of dawn.”

You don’t ‘speak’ according to the word of God, so we are right to call you on it and conclude that you are not a prophet.
 

Fundaamental

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How convenient for you that would be, as it would absolve you of admitting that you are dead wrong and have no biblical support for your claims. It ain’t gonna happen. Own your error and then we can discuss the rest.


More self-righteous, unteachable hogwash.
You have been called out on your unbiblical claims.

Isaiah 8:20
“Consult God’s instruction and the testimony of warning. If anyone does not speak according to this word, they have no light of dawn.”

You don’t ‘speak’ according to the word of God, so we are right to call you on it and conclude that you are not a prophet.
Dino 😊.

The wind blows where the lord chooses it to blow,
The lord controls the weather not me.
I can't say tomorrow there will be a change in the weather to suit you, or that weather may effect your mood, but God could prevent you from going somewhere by changing the weather for you personally.
But what I can say is nature plays it's part in effecting your mood,
So it's fair to say if your left out in the rain all day or the cold you become miserable.

You may then even react without putting the lord first.

In Ireland Dino if people act like Lucifer they get call a Luciferian.
If they act like Jezebel they get called a Jezebel.

If this effects you please forgive me.
 

Fundaamental

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NO, Elijah thought he was the only Prophet left. God said he Protected 7000 who did not bow to Baal. 1 Kings 19:18

It is the unbiblical comments that are being made or the idea of a Jezabel spirit, yet we can't find that comment or statement in scripture. To suggest they are fallen angels is opinionated. Allergorizing the word of God. This is an error. Pride is the only reason why one can not see it.
ok I didn't know this brother thanks,
Wow 7000, why where so many needed brother.
But you do see that some had bowed down to baal.

That's what I was trying to tell Dino.
I thought Dino was saying no prophets had defected to baal.
 

Fundaamental

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I want you to know that my issue is not personal nor am I trying to be so if You think I have offended you, Please forgive me I have not nor is that my intention.

Maybe you can help me understand why you Say "Jesus is my Prophet."

I am not trying to be personal, and if I offended you, please forgive me that is not my intention.

I agree with your comment here: "But a prayer relationship which I have is more important than prophecy."


Prophecy today must be kept in line with what the word of God says, not what we think. All prophecies of men must be judged, as 1cor chapter 14 says. Also, discernment is a sign of maturity, and Prophesying on a Web site/chat forum is not wise or discerning.

would you not agree if the Lord led you to speak prophecies where are the witnesses of Good report? Please explain that to me.
I may have been offended briefly but I've moved on you should too.
I'm actually concerned for your wellbeing, your a minister wasting far to much time debating.


The spirit of prophecy is the true witness (Jesus).

Jesus was the true witness to Gods kingdom, in both the old and the new, and in every single true prophet that's ever lived in my opinion.
We are called to testify to This.
We are all true witnesses,
You should know this.
The fruits you have been blessed with are also the attributes of Jesus.
Surely your going to prohesize like Jesus did.
Surely your going to see things happen befor they do,
Surely you have the gift to think ahead to stop a person going of track.
I suppose many people look up to you here and appreciate they have a minister.
What you say will have an influence.
So if you start calling me names everyone else is.
But I'm not offended My shoulders are mighty.
 

Dino246

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Dino 😊.

The wind blows where the lord chooses it to blow,
The lord controls the weather not me.
I can't say tomorrow there will be a change in the weather to suit you, or that weather may effect your mood, but God could prevent you from going somewhere by changing the weather for you personally.
But what I can say is nature plays it's part in effecting your mood,
So it's fair to say if your left out in the rain all day or the cold you become miserable.

You may then even react without putting the lord first.

In Ireland Dino if people act like Lucifer they get call a Luciferian.
If they act like Jezebel they get called a Jezebel.

If this effects you please forgive me.
Irrelevant to your unbiblical claims.
 

Dino246

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ok I didn't know this brother thanks,
Wow 7000, why where so many needed brother.
But you do see that some had bowed down to baal.

That's what I was trying to tell Dino.
I thought Dino was saying no prophets had defected to baal.
The text says nothing about prophets of YHVH defecting to Baal, so your claims that many did are again unbiblical. Stop doubling down on your unbiblical claims and we might have a pleasant conversation.
 

Fundaamental

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Forgive me I didn't read 13 pages lol and still don't understand "prophecy warfare". It seems it has got of track.

I....try..... to make sure when I talk to others I am really talking to Christ. Well one day (not to us) He will say "if you have done it to the least of these my brethren you have done it unto me". No way to twist that its you and me how we treat each other. We hmm lol "I won't be nice until they are". Yet to be like Christ hello GOD look what He did He left heaven became His creation and as He said could have called a legend of angels...yet this is not HIs kingdom. God allowed that to happen to Himself.

Point is.. its ok to bend... times to become wrong when your not. Its someone in need they see something you have.. you notice so you say .. you need that? its yours you ask do you need anything else take it. What is man that You are mindful of him, And the son of [earthborn] man that You care for him? The angels still ask this they do not understand.

Like it or not the one we talk to treat like.. is really Christ. We forget this nature of the flesh and not dropping it off and walking in the spirit
prophecy warfare,
Ok this is the lords field I'll explain.
Firstly i hate arguing with women.
I really can't stand it,
It's something I will try to avoid at all costs.

But as you can see prochecy warfare is evident right through out this thread,
That's why the Good lord told me to title this thread Prophecy warfare.

Prophecy warfare is a spiritual battle that goes on between Good and evil every day.



The spirit of temptation.
The spirit of doubt.
The spirit of anger
The spirit of hate
The spirit of lust
The spirit of Greed.

I'm not going to go on I will be harping there is more.

As you can see there all called a spirit because this is how we can act in spirit as well as unclean spirits.
When we talk about the Acting in the Good spirit of the lord we understand that imeaditely.

But yet if we talk about acting with a spirit of Jezabel. Somehow it isn't thought as as acting in a spirit of lust.
Or a spirit of Lucifer.
This puzzles me.

Where does prophecy warfare come into all theese spirits a person can display,
Well a spirit of lust could make you visualize anything.
As could a spirit of Greed.
In the form of a future event,
Through desires of unclean spirits in the form of temptation.

This is where the spirit of prophecy from the good lord could imeaditely counter act that false vision of a future event with a different one, which would and in my opinion come from the fruits of the spirit you where blessed with by the holy spirit. Which are also the attributes of our lord Jesus Christ.

One of those attributes is the spirit of prophecy which immediately calls you to be a true witness for Gods kingdom, it sort of speaks to your mind everyday without you needing to understand how it's works.
The spirit of prophecy is a major tool right through out the whole Bible, so much so it accounts for over 8000 verses out of 31000 verses, in the whole Bible.

So I would say the spirit of prochecy is a major factor to a Christians walk.

However sister the spirit of prochecy has somewhat been assassinated in the form of let's automatically assume everybody is a false prophet.
In my oppinion this happens through the desires of unclean spirits to once again kill the spirit of prochecy from the Good lord and also Christians if they can.
As they have killed a lot of prophets over the years.


Now I don't like to applaud insults but as you can you can see many insults have been applauded in this thread and people are gaining confidence in the wrong type of discernment,
This is where there likely to become taken over by the wrong type of spirit of prochecy.

I hope this clears things up for you.😊
 

Fundaamental

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Oops please forgive my spelling mistake 🙏 the spirit of prochecy lol sorry the spirit of prophecy.

I think my phone has been infected😂
 

Dino246

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But as you can see prochecy warfare is evident right through out this thread,
That's why the Good lord told me to title this thread Prophecy warfare.
The only things consistent throughout this thread are your unbiblical claims and the attempts of others to correct you. Calling it ’warfare’ is your way of avoiding accountability.
 

Fundaamental

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The only things consistent throughout this thread are your unbiblical claims and the attempts of others to correct you. Calling it ’warfare’ is your way of avoiding accountability.
This could progress further, it may do some good, 😊.

Is prochecy warfare not evident in the bible ?.
You keep talking about me deflecting, when you have hardly given any account to where my account is coming from, which is the wisdom of our lord Jesus Christ the king of my heart, my waymaker, who renews my mind and strengthens my heart, who wills my steps, who answer my prayers, who gives me the words to say, who sharpens my double edge sword, who brings me befor the sounding boards, the counsels of the heavens, who is victorious in my life, who prophesies against the unclean spirits every day in my life, who lays me down in pastures new, who speaks on my behalf,
Who has told me the bible is full of prophecy warfare.
Who told me he had thousands of prophets in the old t prophesying for him. Which I didn't know was backed up with scripture until our good friend and minister cs1 told me it's actually true, theres an account where 7000 prophets where kept safe.

Wow do you realise the significance of this,

The holy spirit filling 7000 people in the old t temporarily.
Just how many Christians are actually filled with the holy spirit permanently.

We could have ove a billion prophets, they could all wake up soon.

Oh what a glorious day.
 

Fundaamental

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Your track record speaks for itself. You're trying to lead people away from God's word and into a world of imagination. When anyone calls you on it you dismiss them as critical, religious or Jezebels. Sorry if I'm not humble enough for you pal. Deal with it.
How are you today with your imagination 😊.
As your imagination seems to have developed a will to lead people to Christ.
This is a blessing, imagination is a wonderful creation could you imagine the fruits of the spirit which are the attributes of Jesus also, could grow your imagination.😊
 

Dino246

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This could progress further, it may do some good, 😊.

Is prochecy warfare not evident in the bible ?.
You keep talking about me deflecting, when you have hardly given any account to where my account is coming from, which is the wisdom of our lord Jesus Christ the king of my heart, my waymaker, who renews my mind and strengthens my heart, who wills my steps, who answer my prayers, who gives me the words to say, who sharpens my double edge sword, who brings me befor the sounding boards, the counsels of the heavens, who is victorious in my life, who prophesies against the unclean spirits every day in my life, who lays me down in pastures new, who speaks on my behalf,
Who has told me the bible is full of prophecy warfare.
Who told me he had thousands of prophets in the old t prophesying for him. Which I didn't know was backed up with scripture until our good friend and minister cs1 told me it's actually true, theres an account where 7000 prophets where kept safe.

Wow do you realise the significance of this,

The holy spirit filling 7000 people in the old t temporarily.
Just how many Christians are actually filled with the holy spirit permanently.

We could have ove a billion prophets, they could all wake up soon.

Oh what a glorious day.
Your claim of 7,000 prophets is highly questionable; the text doesn’t say that. The word ‘prophets’ is not in that verse. It is far more likely that the Lord was meaning 7,000 regular people. At any given time in Israel’s history, there were probably no more than a few dozen genuine prophets.
 

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How are you today with your imagination .
As your imagination seems to have developed a will to lead people to Christ.
This is a blessing, imagination is a wonderful creation could you imagine the fruits of the spirit which are the attributes of Jesus also, could grow your imagination.
Thank you for confirming I'm right.
 

Fundaamental

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Your claim of 7,000 prophets is highly questionable; the text doesn’t say that. The word ‘prophets’ is not in that verse. It is far more likely that the Lord was meaning 7,000 regular people. At any given time in Israel’s history, there were probably no more than a few dozen genuine prophets.
My claim comes from CS1 our minister friend, (his quote) NO, Elijah thought he was the only Prophet left. God said he Protected 7000 who did not bow to Baal. 1 Kings 19:18.

Whats your understanding of this.

And you still haven't confirmed if any prophets of the lord had defected to baal.


Further more since your all stuck on the spirit of Jezebel Issue thing which I'm not.

There seems to be evidence of her not only Jezebel being an old testament profit but a new testament prophet too.

‘Nevertheless, I have this against you: You tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophet. By her teaching she misleads my servants into sexual immorality and the eating of food sacrificed to idols. I have given her time to repent of her immorality, but she is unwilling. So I will cast her on a bed of suffering, and I will make those who commit adultery with her suffer intensely, unless they repent of her ways. I will strike her children dead’.
Revelation 2:20-23.

Who are her Children. ? And don't children also have a spirit ?.
 

Fundaamental

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Signs that Christians do indeed have the spirit prophecy.

Starting with the first 4 claims of the op.


You desire deep intimacy with God. You have a deep prayer life.

(Hebrews 13)
6 So we say with confidence, “The Lord is my helper; I will not be afraid. What can mere mortals do to me?”
7 Remember your leaders, who spoke the word of God to you. Consider the outcome of their way of life and imitate their faith.
8 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.
9 Do not be carried away by all kinds of strange teachings. It is good for our hearts to be strengthened by grace, not by eating ceremonial foods, which is of no benefit to those who do so.
10 We have an altar from which those who minister at the tabernacle have no right to eat.


You hear God speak to you in many of the ways in which He speaks to the prophets.

4. GOD SPEAKS THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT
“But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you” (John 14:26).

Always seeking to hear the Lord on situations. Prophets always looks for what God has to say

Is not my word like fire, declares the LORD, and like a hammer that breaks the rock in pieces? (Jer. 23:29)
For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart. (Heb. 4:12)

You have premonitions or received information from the Lord on future events that you’ve seen come to pass.

Warnings (such as Pharoah’s dreams in Genesis 41 warning him to store up food to prepare for a coming famine)
Helping people who in need (such as Paul’s dream in Acts 16 urging him to go to Macedonia, where people needed to hear the gospel)
Both the Old Testament and New Testament describe a variety of prophetic dreams. Those dreams sometimes provide information about individual people (like Abimelech’s dream about Sarah in Genesis 20 and Pontius Pilate’s wife’s dream about Jesus in Matthew 27) and sometimes give information about future historical events (such as Nebuchadnezzar’s dream in Daniel 2 and Daniel’s dream in Daniel 7).
 

Dino246

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My claim comes from CS1 our minister friend, (his quote) NO, Elijah thought he was the only Prophet left. God said he Protected 7000 who did not bow to Baal. 1 Kings 19:18.

Whats your understanding of this.
I have shared my understanding: this refers to regular people, not to prophets.

And you still haven't confirmed if any prophets of the lord had defected to baal.
The text doesn't support that idea at all, which is why I reject it.

Further more since your all stuck on the spirit of Jezebel Issue thing which I'm not.

There seems to be evidence of her not only Jezebel being an old testament profit but a new testament prophet too.

‘Nevertheless, I have this against you: You tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophet. By her teaching she misleads my servants into sexual immorality and the eating of food sacrificed to idols. I have given her time to repent of her immorality, but she is unwilling. So I will cast her on a bed of suffering, and I will make those who commit adultery with her suffer intensely, unless they repent of her ways. I will strike her children dead’.
Revelation 2:20-23.
The text tells us that she was not a prophet. That she shared the name is irrelevant.

Who are her Children. ? And don't children also have a spirit ?.
Children: 1. biological progeny; 2. inheritors of traits, habits, characteristics from an influencer. The term can mean literal biological children or people who copied her ways; the text could be interpreted both ways, or mean both together.