Does the Bible support the idea of a spinning ball earth flying through space, or is that a Satanic, Masonic lie?

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
Status
Not open for further replies.
Sep 15, 2019
9,991
5,546
113
A horizon (to the visual eye ,looks like the water is meeting the sky or the water is dropping off.

No matter which ocean you visit or sea which has more than so many miles of straight ahead view of water, you'll always notice the horizon or ( the end of the world as they use to put it in the old days, where you don't see no more water, but yet it is there) always appears to look the exact same distance where the water looks as if it drops off or meets the sky.

This is because your starting to see the earths curvature.
añd this is how it is in every ocean around the world.

Which means the earths shape is pretty much round all the way round. It's why the tide on seas drifts in and out. Because the earth is spinning.

The weight load of the body of water falls one way then the other as the globe spins.

Pretty basic to explain really
The sky appearing to meet the ocean has to do with perspective, not with curvature. The human eye can only detail a limited resolution, which is why boats will appear to "disappear over the horizon". That they can be brought back into view with a telescope demonstrates that this is everything to do with perspective and the limited resolution of the eye, rather than imaginary curvature that cannot be detected.

The event was recorded by a human using a human perspective.
Either you believe scripture is divinely inspired (God-breathed) or not. I believe the former. If you believe the latter, it is likely fruitless to argue based on scripture, as you may argue anything you disagree with is tainted by human error.

Says you... with no supporting explanation.
As stated previously, the burden of proof is on heliocentrists to demonstrate valid evidence for their theory, not for Flat Earthers to disprove it. If you can't accept the authority of scripture on this subject and won't understand the basic principles of science and logic, we have an unreconcilable mismatch in worldview and philosophy, and therefore will never come to an agreement on the subject.

The sun revolves around our galactic centre.
Only according to Heliocentric theory. Even if Heliocentric theory were true, God stopping the sun revolving around the galactic centre would have absolutely nothing to do with the sun appearing to remain in place in the sky in Joshua 10. Which makes me question your motive for even bringing it up. Obfuscation, perhaps?
 

Fundaamental

Well-known member
Mar 17, 2023
3,289
421
83
The sky appearing to meet the ocean has to do with perspective, not with curvature. The human eye can only detail a limited resolution, which is why boats will appear to "disappear over the horizon". That they can be brought back into view with a telescope demonstrates that this is everything to do with perspective and the limited resolution of the eye, rather than imaginary curvature that cannot be detected.

Either you believe scripture is divinely inspired (God-breathed) or not. I believe the former. If you believe the latter, it is likely fruitless to argue based on scripture, as you may argue anything you disagree with is tainted by human error.

As stated previously, the burden of proof is on heliocentrists to demonstrate valid evidence for their theory, not for Flat Earthers to disprove it. If you can't accept the authority of scripture on this subject and won't understand the basic principles of science and logic, we have an unreconcilable mismatch in worldview and philosophy, and therefore will never come to an agreement on the subject.

Only according to Heliocentric theory. Even if Heliocentric theory were true, God stopping the sun revolving around the galactic centre would have absolutely nothing to do with the sun appearing to remain in place in the sky in Joshua 10. Which makes me question your motive for even bringing it up. Obfuscation, perhaps?
nope I have long distance telescopes and the ships can not be brought back into view when they go past the horizon, I go sailing once to twice a week.

Plus the naked eye can see beyond the sun.

So your explanation is disagreeable.

Plus scripture tell us Jesus is the living water,

This water also moves as the earth is moved in his presence 😊
 
Sep 15, 2019
9,991
5,546
113
nope I have long distance telescopes and the ships can not be brought back into view when they go past the horizon, I go sailing once to twice a week.

Plus the naked eye can see beyond the sun.

So you explanation is disagreeable.
This is a pretty easy one, but if you can't do the basic science and can't even be bothered to do a simple internet search where someone else has done the experiment for you, I'm not sure you really want to learn anything on the subject.

Below is a link to evidence of the experiment that someone else has already performed. I'm not really interested in arguing with those who have a political agenda to push, while they feign interest in learning the truth.

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=64690.0

(Note to others: Flat Earth Society is a shill organisation, and while it might have bits and pieces of useful information, there are a lot of dishonest shills on the site who are pushing nonsense to give those who believe the Earth is flat a reputation for being unscientific).
 

Fundaamental

Well-known member
Mar 17, 2023
3,289
421
83
This is a pretty easy one, but if you can't do the basic science and can't even be bothered to do a simple internet search where someone else has done the experiment for you, I'm not sure you really want to learn anything on the subject.

Below is a link to evidence of the experiment that someone else has already performed. I'm not really interested in arguing with those who have a political agenda to push, while they feign interest in learning the truth.

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=64690.0

(Note to others: Flat Earth Society is a shill organisation, and while it might have bits and pieces of useful information, there are a lot of dishonest shills on the site who are pushing nonsense to give those who believe the Earth is flat a reputation for being unscientific).
my science is better than you know,

I study and practice deep sea exploration plus i use echo sounding equipment plus I use chart plotting equipment, plus I study and practice archeology.

Plus I also practice and design 3d boat designs in mathematics I had to get a degree at a university of boat designs for 2 years.
 
Sep 15, 2019
9,991
5,546
113
my science is better than you know,

I study and practice deep sea exploration plus i use echo sounding equipment plus I use chart plotting equipment, plus I study and practice archeology.

Plus I also practice and design 3d boat designs in mathematics I had to get a degree at a university of boat designs for 2 years.
And so you were just lying about having long distance telescopes and them not bringing the ships back into view? Either way you tell the story, it doesn't look good on you.
 

RaceRunner

Well-known member
Oct 13, 2022
1,576
289
83
What do the thousands of other pilots confirm?
This is what all pilots confirm. :love:

If the Earth were truly a sphere 25,000 miles in circumference, airplane pilots would have to constantly correct their altitudes downwards so as to not fly straight off into “outer space;” a pilot wishing to simply maintain their altitude at a typical cruising speed of 500 mph, would have to constantly dip their nose downwards and descend 2,777 feet (over half a mile) every minute! Otherwise, without compensation, in one hour’s time the pilot would find themselves 31.5 miles higher than expected. (y)
 

Ted01

Well-known member
May 14, 2022
1,055
447
83
This is what all pilots confirm. :love:

If the Earth were truly a sphere 25,000 miles in circumference, airplane pilots would have to constantly correct their altitudes downwards so as to not fly straight off into “outer space;” a pilot wishing to simply maintain their altitude at a typical cruising speed of 500 mph, would have to constantly dip their nose downwards and descend 2,777 feet (over half a mile) every minute! Otherwise, without compensation, in one hour’s time the pilot would find themselves 31.5 miles higher than expected. (y)
When you're driving a car and come to a curve in the road, do you make thousands of corrections in order to navigate the bend in the road?
 
Sep 15, 2019
9,991
5,546
113
When you're driving a car and come to a curve in the road, do you make thousands of corrections in order to navigate the bend in the road?
You actually do hold the steering wheel in place so the car continues to turn. Unlike what pilots report - they do not have to continue dipping the nose of the aircraft so as not to shoot off at a tangent into the stratosphere.
 

Ted01

Well-known member
May 14, 2022
1,055
447
83
You actually do hold the steering wheel in place so the car continues to turn. Unlike what pilots report - they do not have to continue dipping the nose of the aircraft so as not to shoot off at a tangent into the stratosphere.
You make it sound as if pilots are sleeping all through their flight..?
 
Sep 15, 2019
9,991
5,546
113
You make it sound as if pilots are sleeping all through their flight..?
So why don't they continually hold down the nose of the plane if they are continually turning downward, given we continually hold the steering wheel in place whilst our cars are turning? Or you trying to change the subject now that your own argument is actually supporting Flat Earth?
 

RaceRunner

Well-known member
Oct 13, 2022
1,576
289
83
This is what all pilots confirm. :love:

If the Earth were truly a sphere 25,000 miles in circumference, airplane pilots would have to constantly correct their altitudes downwards so as to not fly straight off into “outer space;” a pilot wishing to simply maintain their altitude at a typical cruising speed of 500 mph, would have to constantly dip their nose downwards and descend 2,777 feet (over half a mile) every minute! Otherwise, without compensation, in one hour’s time the pilot would find themselves 31.5 miles higher than expected. (y)
19 Pilots Confirm earth is LEVEL.
https://www.tiktok.com/@nosystemnocry/video/7210396439887809797?lang=en
 

Dino246

Senior Member
Jun 30, 2015
25,489
13,797
113
So why don't they continually hold down the nose of the plane if they are continually turning downward, given we continually hold the steering wheel in place whilst our cars are turning? Or you trying to change the subject now that your own argument is actually supporting Flat Earth?
They hold altitude, which is the same thing rotated 90 degrees. ;)
 

Fundaamental

Well-known member
Mar 17, 2023
3,289
421
83
And so you were just lying about having long distance telescopes and them not bringing the ships back into view? Either way you tell the story, it doesn't look good on you.
This my telescope, it also has thermal imaging for my exploration purposes, it's also makes my life safer and easier.
Unless you've used one on the open waters you wouldn't know if ships disappeared out of sight after a horizon, other than your naked eye


https://www.tester.co.uk/pulsar-lex...6EOIDqunnenD7qPG2FjJHTOg7KOiHy8YaAlrIEALw_wcB

1685017934447.png
 

RaceRunner

Well-known member
Oct 13, 2022
1,576
289
83
This my telescope, it also has thermal imaging for my exploration purposes, it's also makes my life safer and easier.
Unless you've used one on the pen waters you woul know if ships disappear out of sight after a horizon,


https://www.tester.co.uk/pulsar-lex...6EOIDqunnenD7qPG2FjJHTOg7KOiHy8YaAlrIEALw_wcB

View attachment 251640
I use a zoom camera or binoculars to bring a ship back in to view that the uneducated thought all of a sudden disappeared; It works very well. ;)
 

Fundaamental

Well-known member
Mar 17, 2023
3,289
421
83
I use a zoom camera or binoculars to bring a ship back in to view that the uneducated thought all of a sudden disappeared; It works very well. ;)
Sorry friend but you must be short sighted because any tall ship that disappears out of view with my naked eye I can not bring back into view even with my telescope and that's saying something
 

RaceRunner

Well-known member
Oct 13, 2022
1,576
289
83
Sorry friend but you must be short sighted because any tall ship that disappears out of view with my naked eye can not bring back into view even with my telescope and that's saying something
Then you need to use a zoom camera or binoculars like I do and you will see the ship in view again; it is very simple. (y)
 
Status
Not open for further replies.