Seeing all of this talk about the shape of the earth on this forum is getting me to want to test/measure for earth curvature. What is the best method I can use to get repeatable undeniable results proving/showing earth curvature?
Don't know about best, but it's one of many.Seeing all of this talk about the shape of the earth on this forum is getting me to want to test/measure for earth curvature. What is the best method I can use to get repeatable undeniable results proving/showing earth curvature?
In your secario above, how can we be sure it is not the sun which is moving?Don't know about best, but it's one of many.
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Scientific observation. Do they teach nothing in schools these days?In your secario above, how can we be sure it is not the sun which is moving?
How can we observe the sun not moving across the sky?Scientific observation. Do they teach nothing in schools these days?
Dear Lord, help me.......... It does move across the sky. Of course, you could stick your head in a bucket and you won't be able to see it. The earth rotates, it takes 24 hours from point to point. It's called a day. From the observer's point of view, it is the sun that moves. In reality, it is the earth that rotates. If you look at sunset from a plane at 30,000 ft, it gets dark on the ground before the air. This is because the sun is not in fact setting. The earth is rotating relative to the sun. You are welcome.How can we observe the sun not moving across the sky?
You have just admitted to seeing the sun moving but not the earth; I am going to have to find another scenario to test for earth curvature.Dear Lord, help me.......... It does move across the sky. Of course, you could stick your head in a bucket and you won't be able to see it. The earth rotates, it takes 24 hours from point to point. It's called a day. From the observer's point of view, it is the sun that moves. In reality, it is the earth that rotates. If you look at sunset from a plane at 30,000 ft, it gets dark on the ground before the air. This is because the sun is not in fact setting. The earth is rotating relative to the sun. You are welcome.
Measure the sun from above.Dear Lord, help me.......... It does move across the sky. Of course, you could stick your head in a bucket and you won't be able to see it. The earth rotates, it takes 24 hours from point to point. It's called a day. From the observer's point of view, it is the sun that moves. In reality, it is the earth that rotates. If you look at sunset from a plane at 30,000 ft, it gets dark on the ground before the air. This is because the sun is not in fact setting. The earth is rotating relative to the sun. You are welcome.
My guess is that the heliocentrists will need to invoke magic gravity, or obfuscation (as we see in Gideon's example - lol - where he admitted that he observed the sun moving, not the Earth, but that "you can't be sure it isn't the sun moving because they teach nothing in school these days". Lol! Gideon probably was speaking from his own experience of school days.)Seeing all of this talk about the shape of the earth on this forum is getting me to want to test/measure for earth curvature. What is the best method I can use to get repeatable undeniable results proving/showing earth curvature?
As opposed to magic nothing that somehow causes objects to fall to earth? Give your head a shake, then tell us what you think the cause is.My guess is that the heliocentrists will need to invoke magic gravity
I've nothing against the observable phenomena of "gravity" pulling things downward. Where Flat Earthers deviate from heliocentrists is that heliocentrists invoke the unprovable idea that gravity can also act sideways or upward, and somehow has the same grip on the atmosphere as it does on the Earth. Hence the term "magic gravity", because it can never be proven, only trusted in with the blind faith of the heliocentrists.As opposed to magic nothing that somehow causes objects to fall to earth? Give your head a shake, then tell us what you think the cause is.
Gravity does indeed act in all directions, but the predominant effect is’ downward’ because the earth is the largest and closest mass by a significant margin, so we don’t notice the others. This has been demonstrated.I've nothing against the observable phenomena of "gravity" pulling things downward. Where Flat Earthers deviate from heliocentrists is that heliocentrists invoke the unprovable idea that gravity can also act sideways or upward, and somehow has the same grip on the atmosphere as it does on the Earth. Hence the term "magic gravity", because it can never be proven, only trusted in with the blind faith of the heliocentrists.
Do heliocentrists use magic gravity to measure the curvature of the Earth, or is there a more scientific-sounding methodology they invoke?
I'm fairly sure there are photographs of it... You haven't seen them?Is this anything like that magic ice wall that y'all never will take a jet out to visit? With modern air travel it should be easy to prove exactly how far out and exactly how far around it is.
We don't notice the others, or they don't exist? I suggest the former.Gravity does indeed act in all directions, but the predominant effect is’ downward’ because the earth is the largest and closest mass by a significant margin, so we don’t notice the others.
Oh really? Lol. Are you going to quote an experiment from NASA on the moon? I'm talking about real science - testable and repeatable.This has been demonstrated.
I think it is you who has little understanding of physics, as the atmosphere in proximity of Earth has significantly less mass than the Earth does, yet "magic gravity" (and yes, it must be magic despite your protestations to the contrary, because it doesn't follow the very rules you Heliocentrists say is should) manages to keep the atmosphere and the Earth together and traveling at the same speed, so the purported incredible rate of spinning by the Earth is unobserved at the surface, as the atmosphere is magically glued in place by magic gravity.Gravity operates the same way on atmosphere as on solids or liquids, but because the mass is much less dense, the effect is different. Nevertheless, the atmosphere is held to the earth’s surface by gravity just as water is. It’s not magic, though to someone with little to no understanding of physics, it might seem to be. The refusal to accept the plain explanation and to continue calling it ‘magic’ suggests a preference for fantasy over reality.
Yeah I've seen those. Those are ice caps - spots, not a contiguous wall that goes all the way around.I'm fairly sure there are photographs of it... You haven't seen them?
Gravity does indeed act in all directions, but the predominant effect is’ downward’ because the earth is the largest and closest mass by a significant margin, so we don’t notice the others. This has been demonstrated.
We don't notice the others, or they don't exist? I suggest the former.
What do you believe is the best method to use to measure earth curvature?Yeah I've seen those. Those are ice caps - spots, not a contiguous wall that goes all the way around.
Y'all should be able to take a jet with a rather large gas tank out to recon the perimeter and prove it.
Again: Mind you, I don't see any personal profit in ridiculing flat earthers. I just object to the magic gravity insult on principle, so I thought I should point out something y'all could prove easily but never have bothered with.
A brain.What do you believe is the best method to use to measure earth curvature?