What is the strong delusion of 2 Thessalonian 2:11,12s 2

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Magenta

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Some people leave quite the impression. The French call it je ne sais quoi.
Crazy environmentalists call it your carbon footprint. I just call it too lazy to pick up after yourself.
Je ne sais quoi? MDR! (mort de rire) .;):D:giggle:
 

JaumeJ

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Peut-être bon peut-être pas, je ne sais pas.
 

Inquisitor

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Yea... and Jesus became a man.

The Word of God became flesh and dwelt among men (John 1:14)
While Jesus was in the flesh, He was still God Almighty.

Your looking at Jesus from the viewpoint of the flesh, have another look.
 

Inquisitor

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PaulThomson said:
WHAT? Jesus is no longer man? Which church believes that?



So, which church believes that Jesus is not both God and a man?
Jesus became one of us to accomplish the sacrifice of Himself.

Jesus Christ is the Lord of heaven and earth!

Jesus was the Creator, then Jesus took on our human form, then Jesus went back to sit on the throne.

Jesus was from above, a very special man. Jesus was not the offspring of a human union, that is heresy.

Jesus had only one Father and that father was not Joseph.
 

Blade

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God as far as I know and read will never go against mans will. So we have to back up 2 thess 2:9 "The coming of the [Antichrist, the lawless] one is through the activity of Satan, [attended] with great power [all kinds of counterfeit miracles] and [deceptive] signs and false wonders [all of them lies], and by unlimited seduction to evil and with all the deception of wickedness for those who are perishing, because they did not welcome the love of the truth [of the gospel] so as to be saved [they were spiritually blind, and rejected the truth that would have saved them]. , Because of this God will send upon them a misleading influence, [an activity of error and deception] so they will believe the lie, "

2nd Thess 2:11starts with "for this reason" meaning something came before it. Then after 11 starts with "in order that".. it keeps going.

So.... no far as I read and understand its not some "Christian group" you personally don't agree with don't like. Oh man this happens with "sheep and goats" Its always that "other" Christian "other" group that's wrong not you and me huh .. ouch.

Don't know when but He is coming to get His Church. Oh praise GOD the song playing "For Future Generations" 4Him. Perfect timing Father.
 
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While Jesus was in the flesh, He was still God Almighty.

Your looking at Jesus from the viewpoint of the flesh, have another look.

No, actually I'm not... I never said He was not God.

He is in fact God's Word and He is a man all at the same time.

So both are true... He is God, and He is a man.



then Jesus went back to sit on the throne.

Actually, He is sitting at the right hand of the Father... the Father sits on the throne.

And, Jesus is still man man which being God's Word as He is still in His gloried body which is the kind of body true Christians will be getting when our flesh is raised from the dead.



Inquisitor seems to be denying Christ's present humanity, but affirming His present deity,

Jesus is both God... and man... at the same time.